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2015 tOSU Defense Discussion

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HOW OHIO STATE’S DEFENSIVE LINE, CORNERBACKS WORK TOGETHER TO FORM ONE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL’S TOP DEFENSES

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Gareon Conley was in the middle of explaining the importance of the cornerbacks in Ohio State’s defense when he was proposed with a question. What position group is more important, the pass-rushing defensive line or the corners?

“It’s the same,” Conley said. “Defensive ends, we get them sacks and they get us picks. It goes hand in hand.”

For the Buckeyes’ defense, that certainly seems to be the case.

Ohio State puts its cornerbacks in a lot of one-on-one situations and demands they shut down opposing wide receivers as they aren’t given much help. The defensive line is tasked with getting pressure on the quarterback so those corners aren’t left out on their islands for an extended period of time.

Everything works together.

“If you have bad corners, you are really restricted in what you’re doing in our base defense,” head coach Urban Meyer said. “It’s really evolved to do you have corners that can hang up in our style of defense? Then, obviously the D-line, too.”

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...rk-together-to-form-one-of-college-football-s
 
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Not to be lost in all the fun of blaming the offense for that fucking disaster, the defense gave up over 200 yards rushing at a 4 ypc clip to a team that couldn't run the ball all year, knowing they were going to run on almost every play.

Add to the ledger that they had the lead twice and gave it back on the ensuing drive each time.

Honestly as frustrating as the offense was, watching MSU just run it down the defenses throat was the most galling thing for me yesterday.
 
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For further perspective:

  • Coming into yesterday's game MSU was ranked 90th in YPC as a team at 3.9 YPC
  • They were #78 in total rushing yards per game at 157.9
  • FO advanced stats ranked their OL at #88 overall and #101 in standard down line yards
So zero past performance of any success running the ball against anyone, they are without starting QB and therefore in the spot of having to rely on their greatest weakness as their only chance to win

and they stuff it down the throat of a defense with NFL players at every level including a potential overall #1 draft pick (who played his guts out BTW).

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth about Beck and not a peep about the defensive coaches?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
For further perspective:

  • Coming into yesterday's game MSU was ranked 90th in YPC as a team at 3.9 YPC
  • They were #78 in total rushing yards per game at 157.9
  • FO advanced stats ranked their OL at #88 overall and #101 in standard down line yards
So zero past performance of any success running the ball against anyone, they are without starting QB and therefore in the spot of having to rely on their greatest weakness as their only chance to win

and they stuff it down the throat of a defense with NFL players at every level including a potential overall #1 draft pick (who played his guts out BTW).
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It was shocking to me that they never moved Bosa around (he was camped out at left end the entire game) or mixed up the fronts to cause confusion against an inexperienced QB. At some point, I'd have sold out against the run and lived with it if they'd hit one over the top, but that part's more questionable IMO.

That said, the D is built primarily to rush the passer, force quick three and outs, force turnovers, and play from ahead. They're not really built to defend smash mouth Tressel ball for an entire game because the offense is expected to both possess the ball with power spread running and score enough to force the other team to throw. We've known that you sacrifice some stoutness against the run with that approach unless you have extraordinary DTs, and that's the one area of recruiting that hasn't quite been there. So. I blame the coaches some, but still give the lion's share of the blame to the offensive staff and players.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
It was shocking to me that they never moved Bosa around (he was camped out at left end the entire game) or mixed up the fronts to cause confusion against an inexperienced QB. At some point, I'd have sold out against the run and lived with it if they'd hit one over the top, but that part's more questionable IMO.

That said, the D is built primarily to rush the passer, force quick three and outs, force turnovers, and play from ahead. They're not really built to defend smash mouth Tressel ball for an entire game because the offense is expected to both possess the ball with power spread running and score enough to force the other team to throw. We've known that you sacrifice some stoutness against the run with that approach unless you have extraordinary DTs, and that's the one area of recruiting that hasn't quite been there. So. I blame the coaches some, but still give the lion's share of the blame to the offensive staff and players.
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They did move him around, see Hubbards FF, but didn't do it enough. This was another game where the lack of a space eater/run stuffer was missing but for the life of me, why we didn't have 8 or 9 man boxes. I couldn't tell you
 
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Jaxbuck said:
For further perspective:

  • Coming into yesterday's game MSU was ranked 90th in YPC as a team at 3.9 YPC
  • They were #78 in total rushing yards per game at 157.9
  • FO advanced stats ranked their OL at #88 overall and #101 in standard down line yards
So zero past performance of any success running the ball against anyone, they are without starting QB and therefore in the spot of having to rely on their greatest weakness as their only chance to win

and they stuff it down the throat of a defense with NFL players at every level including a potential overall #1 draft pick (who played his guts out BTW).

All the wailing and gnashing of teeth about Beck and not a peep about the defensive coaches?
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Yeah, sorry. The defense was not the problem yesterday.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
wasn't the whole problem but it was far from blameless
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The defense held out as long as they could. Considering the only rest they got were the commercial breaks, and I think they fought as hard as they could for as long as they could. When the 4th quarter started, they had already played more minutes than any other game this season. This is 100% on the offense, how many 3 and outs did the offense have? 7,8,9? I'm pretty sure we had more 3 and outs than 1st downs.
 
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