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Game Thread 2015 Sugar Bowl: (1) Alabama vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 1st @ 8:30p ET, ESPN (civilized thread)
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MaxBuck
SoCal, Baby!
He's been great against the Tide; not so much against others. I wouldn't put him in the top five in the SEC. But then again, Devin Gardner has looked like the second coming of Tom Brady against Ohio State, and the second coming of Joe Bauserman against the rest of the league.
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
Marshall did a pretty decent job running the ball. Not sure CJ will have that same success and I don't think we will use as many QB designed runs. In our case I think the passing game is what opens up the running game.
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freelancewirter
Freshman
Here's your answer.
A little context: Since Smart left the GA ranks (2004) he's spent all but one season coaching under Saban. While you haven't been exposed to press conferences over the last eight years in Tuscaloosa it stands to reason you can see how an assistant coach would emulate the actions of a head coach: press conferences not withstanding.
I'm sure you've seen videos and reports labeled "Saban goes off..." or some of his comments in press conferences characterized as a tirade. Hey, there's no denying he goes off on his tangents at times. The question doesn't revolve around why, it's about to whom those "tirades are directed."
Watch the video linked earlier in this thread. When Kirby says he's talked to other coaches he specifically mentions things like "SEC size, SEC speed," and "SEC talent." Who is he speaking to there?
I assure you, it's addressing things like "B1G slow." In part, it's a caution to those in the media about throwing things like that out there. In it's entirety, it's directed towards his players.
For lack of a better descriptions, it's using the PC as a bully pulpit. It's a perfect opportunity for Smart to, once again, tell his players not to buy in when they read stories about OSU being slow, undersized, etc.
osugrad21 hit the nail on the head: "saying that publicly has a purpose." Smart is still coaching. It just so happens he's using his press conference to solidify his message of not underestimating the opponent.
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freelancewirter
Freshman
This is from Chris Walsh a beat writer for the Bama beat for quite a few years:
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The initial comment came from question about whether the Buckeyes were more like a Southeastern Conference team in size and speed than what’s been more typical of the Big Ten of late.
“I think you have coach loyalties,” Smart said. “When all things are closed, and you’re behind closed doors, you have coach loyalties, not conference loyalties. And (Urban Meyer’s) got a lot of loyalty to our conference because he did a good job in it. He’s been around it. The same way with some of the guys in his. So it’s mixed emotions there. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what they tell you, it’s what you do.”
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The reporters wouldn’t let it go, though, asking if coaches have an agreement not to cross conference lines for games like the national semifinal to be played Jan. 1 (8:30 p.m. ESPN), and Smart essentially answered he had never heard of such a thing...
Still the issue won’t die, leading to the following exchange:
Reporter: “You said several Big Ten coaches have given you some information …”
Smart: “I wouldn’t say information. I wouldn’t say information. I think everybody wants to talk about that and focus on that. Where all we’re saying is you share different ideas as far as how good is this team, are they good. Because we’re going to do what we do defensively. We’re not going to go get ideas from somebody else. When you say information, it’s do they look like an SEC team? Are they built like an SEC team? Yes, they’re fast and big and they’re physical. That kind of information. Not defensive information or secrets. There are no secrets to this game. You’ve got to block. You’ve got to tackle. You’ve got to be physical. You’ve got to be fast. That’s what we hope to do.”
Reporter: “Did that surprise you, even that, because usually you think …”
Smart: “Doesn’t surprise me that anybody in the SEC would talk to Coach Meyer either.”
Reporter: “Why?”
Smart: “Because in the league, if they know him and trust him, they’re going to talk coaches talk. You know what you believe. Coaches that are friends talk. That’s what friends do. The loyalties lie within the coaching, not necessarily within conference.”
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Hours later, Ohio State offensive coordinator Tom Herman wasn’t surprised to learn that Smart and the other Alabama coaches had been talking to his league counterparts.
“We’re in this thing to give our guys the best advantage we can to win and whatever is within the rules we’re going to try to give them that advantage,” he said. “If somebody that’s played us two or three times has a little nugget here or there that they can share with them, so be it. The last time I checked we were 24-0 against those Big Ten teams in three years in the regular season. So it doesn’t bother me.”
Herman revealed that Ohio State had been talking to SEC coaches as well.
“Yeah, you ask around,” Herman said. “’What hurt them? You guys have played them.’ Friends, I’m not just going to go pick up a phone and cold call a guy at Tennessee you’ve never met, ‘This is Tom Herman at Ohio State tell me about Alabama.’ You’ve got buddies in the business and you call, catch up with, Merry Christmas, and, by the way, you guys scored 32 points against them two years ago, anything you saw that might could help us?
“So, yeah, it happens.”
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SaturdayDownSouth.com
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The initial comment came from question about whether the Buckeyes were more like a Southeastern Conference team in size and speed than what’s been more typical of the Big Ten of late.
“I think you have coach loyalties,” Smart said. “When all things are closed, and you’re behind closed doors, you have coach loyalties, not conference loyalties. And (Urban Meyer’s) got a lot of loyalty to our conference because he did a good job in it. He’s been around it. The same way with some of the guys in his. So it’s mixed emotions there. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what they tell you, it’s what you do.”
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The reporters wouldn’t let it go, though, asking if coaches have an agreement not to cross conference lines for games like the national semifinal to be played Jan. 1 (8:30 p.m. ESPN), and Smart essentially answered he had never heard of such a thing...
Still the issue won’t die, leading to the following exchange:
Reporter: “You said several Big Ten coaches have given you some information …”
Smart: “I wouldn’t say information. I wouldn’t say information. I think everybody wants to talk about that and focus on that. Where all we’re saying is you share different ideas as far as how good is this team, are they good. Because we’re going to do what we do defensively. We’re not going to go get ideas from somebody else. When you say information, it’s do they look like an SEC team? Are they built like an SEC team? Yes, they’re fast and big and they’re physical. That kind of information. Not defensive information or secrets. There are no secrets to this game. You’ve got to block. You’ve got to tackle. You’ve got to be physical. You’ve got to be fast. That’s what we hope to do.”
Reporter: “Did that surprise you, even that, because usually you think …”
Smart: “Doesn’t surprise me that anybody in the SEC would talk to Coach Meyer either.”
Reporter: “Why?”
Smart: “Because in the league, if they know him and trust him, they’re going to talk coaches talk. You know what you believe. Coaches that are friends talk. That’s what friends do. The loyalties lie within the coaching, not necessarily within conference.”
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Hours later, Ohio State offensive coordinator Tom Herman wasn’t surprised to learn that Smart and the other Alabama coaches had been talking to his league counterparts.
“We’re in this thing to give our guys the best advantage we can to win and whatever is within the rules we’re going to try to give them that advantage,” he said. “If somebody that’s played us two or three times has a little nugget here or there that they can share with them, so be it. The last time I checked we were 24-0 against those Big Ten teams in three years in the regular season. So it doesn’t bother me.”
Herman revealed that Ohio State had been talking to SEC coaches as well.
“Yeah, you ask around,” Herman said. “’What hurt them? You guys have played them.’ Friends, I’m not just going to go pick up a phone and cold call a guy at Tennessee you’ve never met, ‘This is Tom Herman at Ohio State tell me about Alabama.’ You’ve got buddies in the business and you call, catch up with, Merry Christmas, and, by the way, you guys scored 32 points against them two years ago, anything you saw that might could help us?
“So, yeah, it happens.”
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SaturdayDownSouth.com
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
"Chris Walsh" stuff .
Sure. When you hear about some coaches in the Big offering advice/knowledge to Satan, then you get angry a little.
But. It is what it is.
When you beat all those guys, there might be a little resentment there. It's the "new" Big culture that comes with more competition.
Does anyone believe that a majority of the Big coaches want to see us get even more dominate?
Meh.
Sure. When you hear about some coaches in the Big offering advice/knowledge to Satan, then you get angry a little.
But. It is what it is.
When you beat all those guys, there might be a little resentment there. It's the "new" Big culture that comes with more competition.
Does anyone believe that a majority of the Big coaches want to see us get even more dominate?
Meh.
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"So, Coach, if you had to play the Buckeyes again, what would you do differently?" When you fail, you learn what you did wrong, not what to do right. So, who cares what the other coaches say?
This whole thing is nothing but an attempt to get into the minds of Ohio State coaches and players. It already has failed.
This whole thing is nothing but an attempt to get into the minds of Ohio State coaches and players. It already has failed.
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SECorBust
It is an ugly trophy anyway.
They'll let Jones run all he wants to. He and Nick Marshall are worlds apart. The stats don't tell the whole story do they? If they put in Jalin Marshall then Bama will have to commit to stopping the QB from running the ball and that might open some things up down field. I don't think he has many pass attempts downfield though does he?
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mattynokes
Heisman
Depends on your definition of "downfield", but I remember at least one of his two passes was more than your normal "dump off in the flats" when someone else is throwing the ball. I would say the pass was 15-20 yards downfield.
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Holy shit. You'd better hope that's not the case, or else not only will you lose but you will lose huge...
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SECorBust
It is an ugly trophy anyway.
Jones will not beat Alabama running the ball. That's all there is to it. Round 2 of Dak Prescott if Jones carries the ball. You want Elliott running the ball or Devin Smith catching the ball. Neither of those things happens when Jones runs.
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