Game Thread 2015 National Championship Game: (2) Oregon vs. (4) Ohio State, Jan 12th @ 8:30p ET, ESPN

[Gcashwell]

These two posts came from the same person. It's always dangerous to assume something....but it's factual that Urban ran from the SEC because it was too hard.

These two posts came from the same person. It's always dangerous to assume something....but it's factual that Urban ran from the SEC because it was too hard.

i backed up what I said with some reason and evidence. I also said I could be wrong.
You just threw a random statement out there.

Anyway, I think the deep ball will be just as in play as it was against Bama. I think we may see a score similar to the sugar bowl.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

i backed up what I said with some reason and evidence. I also said I could be wrong.
You just through a random statement out there.

Anyway, I think the deep ball will be just as in play as it was against Bama. I think we may see a score similar to the sugar bowl.

Your reason and evidence is that you think he was afraid of the SEC. A man who won everywhere he went.....who got as far as nearly any college coach ever has....but had a bad season and got scared and ran away. He didn't get scared when he went 9-4. He went out and won another National Championship. But 8-5....hoooooo boy, now it's time to fake an illness and go running away because the SEC is soooooo hard. Maybe a spot at ND or Ohio State will open up in a few years where he can win with ease, because clearly he's a man who is afraid of a challenge. Lots of people get to where he had gotten with such a fragile mind.

Look at all the reason and evidence in that paragraph.

 

[Gcashwell]

Your reason and evidence is that you think he was afraid of the SEC. A man who won everywhere he went.....who got as far as nearly any college coach ever has....but had a bad season and got scared and ran away. He didn't get scared when he went 9-4. He went out and won another National Championship. But 8-5....hoooooo boy, now it's time to fake an illness and go running away because the SEC is soooooo hard. Maybe a spot at ND or Ohio State will open up in a few years where he can win with ease, because clearly he's a man who is afraid of a challenge. Lots of people get to where he had gotten with such a fragile mind.

Look at all the reason and evidence in that paragraph.

That's better. I knew you could do it.

He did admit the stress got to him.

 

[jarv]

Are we really going to let gcashwell derail our National Championship Game thread with the typical "Urban Meyer is scared of the SEC despite dominating the SEC" BS?

Back on topic:

This week is killing me already. I'm going between bouts of 100% confidence in my Buckeyes and 100% dread and terror. I had a dream Cardale forgot his shoes, had go play barefoot and suffered a career ending foot injury. I'm afraid I might have a heart attack on Monday. Hell, I might have one before then. I'm only 32 guys. I don't want to die.

 

[JXC]

That's better. I knew you could do it.

He did admit the stress got to him.

I am feeling more nervous today. Kind of worried about the toll the Alabama game took, and how we may respond to that in practice, and therefore the game. Whereas I doubt Oregon is going though that as much. It's the NC, so neither team is going to look past the other. There isnt enough time in between games either to get an ego. It's just so different, and I'm not sure what to make of it. If we are wore out on defense from the Alabama game, then I worry their tempo could drain us.

At first I was just happy to beat Alabama. Now I want more and more to win this thing. I'm getting my hopes up.

 

[Gcashwell]

I am feeling more nervous today. Kind of worried about the toll the Alabama game took, and how we may respond to that in practice, and therefore the game. Whereas I doubt Oregon is going though that as much. It's the NC, so neither team is going to look past the other. There isnt enough time in between games either to get an ego. It's just so different, and I'm not sure what to make of it. If we are wore out on defense from the Alabama game, then I worry their tempo could drain us.

At first I was just happy to beat Alabama. Now I want more and more to win this thing. I'm getting my hopes up.

I think the bama game helped osu. They had a tough fight. they have time to recover and know they can win a big game, but it won't be easy. Oregon had a team quit against them. They may come out expecting the same thing to happen again.

 

[JXC]

I think the bama game helped osu. They had a tough fight. they have time to recover and know they can win a big game, but it won't be easy. Oregon had a team quit against them. They may come out expecting the same thing to happen again.

No they won't. They've even said they know there will be no quit on Ohio State. And I don't know if I completeLy agree with the time to recover. That game was more physical than any other they've played this year.

I also don't know if the power of our defensive line can really dictate the game. I'm worried their offense negates that. If we can't gets any three and outs or turnovers, I'm really worried.

First two series of the game will be huge. If it is 0-0 or 3-0 or 7-0 Ohio State, I like that message. 7-7 or 7-0 Oregon, not as much. I know we won't quit, even if it's all trading scores. But if we make it real difficult on them, and the defense can dictate some things...oh boy!

 

[Gcashwell]

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No they won't. They've even said they know there will be no quit on Ohio State. And I don't know if I completeLy agree with the time to recover. That game was more physical than any other they've played this year.

I also don't know if the power of our defensive line can really dictate the game. I'm worried their offense negates that. If we can't gets any three and outs or turnovers, I'm really worried.

First two series of the game will be huge. If it is 0-0 or 3-0 or 7-0 Ohio State, I like that message. 7-7 or 7-0 Oregon, not as much. I know we won't quit, even if it's all trading scores. But if we make it real difficult on them, and the defense can dictate some things...oh boy!

Ive seen a lot of teams say they expect a tough game, the other team looks good, etc. A lot of times thst is talk. I think, for young people especially, it is tough to come off a 29 pt win in the semifinal and not be a little complacent. I have to give the mental edge to OSU.

You are right in that oregon should be very fresh. But, they are missing their best corner.

I don't think OSU has to dictate the whole game, and I dont think they can. But if they can slow oregon here or there, tneh should be fine. I don't think the duck defense will be good enough unless their dl can get good pressure on jones.

 

[Telekinesis]

That's better. I knew you could do it.

He did admit the stress got to him.

Well, he did take over an Ohio State team that had just gone 6-7. It's not like he had his own recruits when he took the reigns, yet somehow he found a way to go undefeated the very next season.

 

[shiloh]

Beating a dead horse, if anything should have made Meyer scared it was how the Buckeyes performed in 2011. They weren't close to looking like they would be good anytime soon. At the beginning of the 2012 season IIRC Meyer predicted a 7-5 season. Also, one must remember Meyer took a leap of faith re: what penalties/sanctions the NCAA would hand down re: those dastardly tattoos as he became head coach before that decision was made.

I know, the B1G isn't near as tough as the SEC yada yada yada.

It's not like he was replacing Bill Walsh after he had just won the Super Bowl. 'nuf said!

We now return you to why/how the Buckeyes will defeat the Ducks!

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edit: Exactly Telekinesis and talking about stress I was kinda stressed after the 2011 season.

 

[SloopyHangOn]

I'm a little disappointed that some of y'all are encouraging any bit of @Gcashwell 's hypocrisy and lack of perspective. It's past the time to break it down, but I will say this.

How dare you call anyone out for applying defensive reasoning to an argument that you clearly have a self-proclaimed bias toward when you make inflammatory claims about OUR coach.

Don't condescend people by claiming they aren't "reading closely" and other pedantic nonsense when you're ultimately uncomfortable admitting that this construct of yours has major flaws.

No. You get no pass from me because you aren't an ignorant homer. That's great, but that isn't an excuse to post bullshit and then act like you're the only one being reasonable when it's rebutted. Fuck that.

I'll leave it alone, now.

 

[kujirakira]

OSU trailer for the trailer they'll release Friday

You can never have enough trailers... [insert trailer park joke here]

He wanted to go to OsU. Instead of just leaving Florida because he said he wanted to, he came up with his "health scares" and "family time" issues once he lost sec dominance.

If you were his family, wouldn't you be pissed if he said he was going to quit coaching to finally spend time with you, but then was like, "nevermind guys, we're moving to Ohio! I'll see you at Christmas and July fourth!"

Maybe his health issues in 2009 and 2010 were indicative of his psychic powers?

Urban Meyer first went to the hospital Dec 6, 2009
Urban took a leave of absence Dec 27, 2009
Urban returned March 27, 2010 as Florida went to 7-5
Urban announced he would leave Dec 8, 2010 and coached the last game January 1, 2011
The initial tatgate scandal broke Dec 22, 2010 suspending 5 players for first 5 games in 2011 season
(allowing them to make the NCAA money in Sugar Bowl - if they were suspended for that, nobody would've watched)
March 8, 2011 Tressel was implicated for over-looking the scandal
May 30, 2011 Tressel was fired
July 8, 2011 the entire 2010 season was vacated (including the Sugar Bowl that NCAA cleared everyone for - you know, now that they got their money)
July 8, 2011 Fickell named interim HC and led them to a 6-6 season with loss to Florida in bowl game
2011 season Urban Meyer is working as a commentator with ESPN
Nov 28, 2011 Urban Meyer hired as new HC

Oh so let me get this right.

He coaches at Bowling Green. A team that was 2-9 goes 8-3 and then 9-3. Sounds like a tough gig.
Then he moves up to Utah. Again a team that was 5-6 goes 10-2 then 12-0. At places like Bowling Green and Utah........you know, bastions of high school talent where it's easy to get players.
Then he moves up to Florida, where he wins 2 National Championships and starts the SEC propaganda bull[Mark May].
THEN....because it makes the myth of the SEC even greater for you SEC folk, he turns into a pussy who is afraid of the very super conference that he had a hand in building.


Let me guess.....the Alabama fan thinks he was scared of Nick Saban.

Sometimes I wonder if Bama fans don't trot this line about cowardice out b/c it's actually their coach who got skirred and fled The League for somewhere it's easier to win.
People feeling bad about something often project it onto others...

The great irony is that it's Saban who wasn't very successful until he lucked into the LSU job with a huge talent pool and no in-state competition.
He struggled at Michigan State (34-24-1, 0-3 bowls) when the Big10 was strong.
He struggled in the NFL with parity and not having the talent advantage.
He's done extremely well at two schools where he can accumulate huge amounts of talent and cover-up his scouting misses with over-signing and falsified medical scholarships.

 

[Gcashwell]

You can never have enough trailers... [insert trailer park joke here]



Maybe his health issues in 2009 and 2010 were indicative of his psychic powers?

Urban Meyer first went to the hospital Dec 6, 2009
Urban took a leave of absence Dec 27, 2009
Urban returned March 27, 2010 as Florida went to 7-5
Urban announced he would leave Dec 8, 2010 and coached the last game January 1, 2011
The initial tatgate scandal broke Dec 22, 2010 suspending 5 players for first 5 games in 2011 season
(allowing them to make the NCAA money in Sugar Bowl - if they were suspended for that, nobody would've watched)
March 8, 2011 Tressel was implicated for over-looking the scandal
May 30, 2011 Tressel was fired
July 8, 2011 the entire 2010 season was vacated (including the Sugar Bowl that NCAA cleared everyone for - you know, now that they got their money)
July 8, 2011 Fickell named interim HC and led them to a 6-6 season with loss to Florida in bowl game
2011 season Urban Meyer is working as a commentator with ESPN
Nov 28, 2011 Urban Meyer hired as new HC



Sometimes I wonder if Bama fans don't trot this line about cowardice out b/c it's actually their coach who got skirred and fled The League for somewhere it's easier to win.
People feeling bad about something often project it onto others...

The great irony is that it's Saban who wasn't very successful until he lucked into the LSU job with a huge talent pool and no in-state competition.
He struggled at Michigan State (34-24-1, 0-3 bowls) when the Big10 was strong.
He struggled in the NFL with parity and not having the talent advantage.
He's done extremely well at two schools where he can accumulate huge amounts of talent and cover-up his scouting misses with over-signing and falsified medical scholarships.

FWIW, I agree with you about SAban. I don't trust anything about any of these coaches. I feel like they are out for themselves much more than their team or players, which would be fine, if they wouldn't lie about it.

 

[bukIpower]

No need to worry guys 10 days is definately enough to recover from a tough Bama win. If we can turn around after playing a tough MSU team then in 7 days play at Minnesota then we can handle anything from a physical stand point that Oregon brings to the table.

Like cashwell said... they're missing their best defensive player from a shaky defense, the just beat a team that quit and won big giving them a sense they're indestructable, and have been beating some teams bad the past few weeks. IMO they won't know what to do when its a close game and we don't quit and we will be right at home.

 

[lvbuckeye]

I believe you and I are in nearly complete agreement.

When I talk about sec dominance, I do mean simply the top of the conference. However, in conference games are tough, week in and week out. If you are at the top of your conference, your conference mates are going to give you their best game.

That's every conference ever.