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2014 Preseason and Regular Season Polls

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buckeyesin07 said:
I'd like to think that too, but something tells me that if OSU beats MSU, then Sparty will go all Sparty and drop another game or two. And you know Corn won't enter the Big Ten title game with only one loss, so the media rhetoric will still be that OSU hasn't beaten anyone.
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Under the scenario that Sparty ends the regular season with three losses and Corn with three after the B1G championship game the media would have a fair point.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
I'd like to think that too, but something tells me that if OSU beats MSU, then Sparty will go all Sparty and drop another game or two. And you know Corn won't enter the Big Ten title game with only one loss, so the media rhetoric will still be that OSU hasn't beaten anyone.
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Yea I was going with the assumption that at the very least MSU won't f it up. And it obviously would sure as hell help if UN wins out. It would be 2 wins over teams at the time being top 10, both in the last 1/3 of the season. That would be hard to say no to.

Edit: looked at their remaining schedules. I don't see MSU losing. At Maryland, vs Rutgers, and then at PSU. That's the only one where it could maybe happen, but I doubt that.

UN though definitely has an L in their future. Or at least I wouldn't be surprised. Their last 3 games are at Wisconsin, vs Minnesota, then at Iowa.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
I don't think ND should be in the top 4. But I also think they were a little low. I was expecting somewhere 6-8. If they win out there's probably a 90% chance they're in.
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I'd agree with this. I also tend to think that if we win out, and do so solidly, and MSU and Nebraska were only to lose to us to end the season, then we'd probably make it.

Nothing to wring hands about now, and frankly it doesn't seem that anyone on here is doing any hand wringing...it's still so early and we still have lots to prove and lots of time to do it.
 
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It's still early for the rankings to be released. There are a lot of games to be played & just about everyone in the top 10+ (except FSU) will be playing another team on the list. The artificially inflated SEC teams are going to start bumping each other off.

Still to play:
#1 Mississippi St (7-0) - #4 Ole Miss (7-1), #6 Alabama (7-1)
#3 Auburn (6-1) - #6 Alabama (7-1), #11 Georgia (6-1)
#4 Ole Miss (7-1) - #1 Mississippi St (7-0), #3 Auburn (6-1)
#6 Alabama (7-1) - #1 Mississippi St (7-0), #3 Auburn (6-1), #19 LSU (7-2)
#11 Georgia (6-1) - #3 Auburn (6-1)
#19 LSU (7-2) - #6 Alabama (7-1)

#5 Oregon (7-1) - #17 Utah (6-1)
#12 Arizona (6-1) - #14 Arizone St (6-1), #17 Utah (6-1), #22 UCLA (6-2)
#14 Arizona St (6-1) - #10 Notre Dame, #12 Arizona (6-1), #17 Utah (6-1)
#17 Utah (6-1) - #5 Oregon (7-1), #12 Arizona (6-1), #14 Arizona St (6-1)
#22 UCLA (6-2) - #12 Arizona (6-1)

#7 TCU (6-1) - #9 Kansas St (6-1), #20 West Virginia (6-2)
#9 Kansas St (6-1) - #7 TCU (6-1), #13 Baylor (6-1), #20 West Virginia (6-2)
#13 Baylor (6-1) - #9 Kansas St (6-1), #18 Oklahoma (5-2)
#18 Oklahoma (5-2) - #13 Baylor (6-1)
#20 West Virginia (6-2) - #7 TCU (6-1), #9 Kansas St (6-1)

#10 Notre Dame - #14 Arizona St (6-1)

bukIpower said:
Just take the champions from every conference and put them in a playoff and don't even have the rankings... also do away with conference divisions so that the top two teams will always meet in the conference championship
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Do you realize those are two diametrically opposed ideas?
 
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Mississippi St. - vs Arkansas, @ Alabama, @ Old Miss
Old Miss - vs Auburn, @ Arkansas, vs Mississippi St.
Auburn - @ Old Miss, vs Texas A&M, @ Georgia, @ Alabama
Alabama - @ LSU, vs Mississippi St., vs Auburn.

I count at least 6 elimination games in there. The rankings are based on work so far. Will be a fun ride.
 
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At what point when a 1 loss big ten champ and a 2 loss PAC 12 champ get left out for a 2 loss sec team that didn't even make their championship game and didn't play a single good OOC team. DO WE TAKE OUR F$CKING ROSE BOWL BACK? I am sick and tired of the polls and national championship games and the Sec espn trading blowjobs for favors. I would like to opt out and take back what is rightfully ours (and the pac12)
 
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SloopyHangOn said:
So here is what we know.

They're not running a predictive model, they're simply running a ranking system.

Ole Miss has a schedule remaining that, being ranked #4 they can lose a game and stay in it and other SEC West teams can beat them and gain justifiable leaps into the top 3. It is only the first week, so we don't know what kind of impact wins and losses will have, but just like the AP polls the initial positions create the narrative for each win & loss down the road. The next 2 weeks will go a LONG way in defining the teams truly in the conversation.

What a small committee does allow for is large leaps and drops based on perception. No aggregate voting to get in the way.
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The one thing I liked was that their ranking was undefeated, all 1 loss, all 2 loss. No 1-loss teams jumped an undefeated, and no 2-loss jumped a 1-loss.
I'm interested to see if that holds after Miss & Auburn play this week, and one of them will have 2 losses. Will they drop them under 15? I have serious doubts.
 
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Muck what i mean is take the champions from each power divison+3 at large selections. However at a smaller level the divisions within the conference need to be scrapped. This way a 8-4 Wisconsin team can't fluke itself into the playoffs with essentially a 1 win season.

Having OSU, Michigan, PSU, AND Sparty in the same division is just begging to have a team like NW at 9 and 3 in the championship game over a one loss MSU or OSU team.
 
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I lost all faith in an objective selection process when ESPN bought the rights to the CFP. And we're supposed to believe the selection committee isn't busy enough with their real jobs that they have enough time to "extensively watch film" and know what they're looking at. Please. Baylor should be ahead of TCU & Arizona should be ahead of Oregon.
 
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bukIpower said:
Muck what i mean is take the champions from each power divison+3 at large selections. However at a smaller level the divisions within the conference need to be scrapped. This way a 8-4 Wisconsin team fluke itself into the playoffs with essentially a 1 win season.

Having OSU, Michigan, PSU, AND Sparty in the same division is just begging to have a team like NW at 9 and 3 in the championship game over a one loss MSU or OSU team.
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Do they need to scrap them in the SEC as well?

Frankly I'd rather have OSU guaranteed to face the powers in the conference instead of West-division Sparty getting in on a tiebreaker when Wisc & MSU both have 1 loss.
 
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