2013 TSUN shenanigans and arguments

[ColumbusSublime]

You have Funchess, no arguement , he is the ultimate play maker at Tightend end of discussion. You have young grinders at tailback although young in deveon and green, that is what this offense needs. You have an explosive quarterback, check. Than you bring in bigger receivers , 2 four star men, and move the midgets rich rod brought inside. (Gallon had 60 receptions last year). And I think that makes a pretty good offense, but the year after with Drake Harris and another year of Funchess and the running backs will be more explosive.

No. They're not.

Drake Harris is the first elite playmaker they've brought in under Big Boy. Green & Smith should be good running backs, but they're not playmakers, they're grinders.

So far (2011, 2012 & 2013) among Hoke's classes that are on campus:
Five WR (1 ****)
Six TE (2 ****)

Those isn't the makings for an explosive offense.

 

[germ]

I concede OSU pictures of football players, can beat Michigans pictures of football players.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Alright Supersteve, ya were not on goblue your right. Who said Morgan is a monster? He is not steve, Bolden is in his second year at 228 , he will be fine. Hall came in as a tackle correct? He could not cut it at tackle and moved inside because of better players correct steve? I do not on Michigan board see not one person poking fun at 17 year old kids, actually giving compliments to the running back from Oregon and such, but ok steve.

I don't give a fuck if other boards aren't poking funs at opponents' players, especially players of their main rival. If this bothers you, then you can high-tail you ass outta here. Keep this shit up, and I'll make that decision for you...

 

[LightningRod]

running back coach. And Clowney did not "torch" Lewan. On that "hit of the year" Lewan was not responsible for Clowney what so ever . And out of all the "sweet" tackles in the sec Clowney faced, you know who he said was the hardest player he has ever gone up against? Lewan. And why do I need to structure my sentence to your liking, I am not trying to impress you and go out on a date with ya bud.

When Smith found his way back to the Michigan bench rumor has it that ESPN audio caught Smith asking a Florida cop near the Michigan bench if the stand your ground defense could apply in a football game.

 

[GeorgiaBuck2]

Steveeeeeeeee!!!!!

 

[germ]

No. They're not.

Drake Harris is the first elite playmaker they've brought in under Big Boy. Green & Smith should be good running backs, but they're not playmakers, they're grinders.

So far (2011, 2012 & 2013) among Hoke's classes that are on campus:
Five WR (1 ****)
Six TE (2 ****)

Those isn't the makings for an explosive offense.

It really does not matter how many explosive players you have, if you don't have an offensive line worth a damn.

 

[jwinslow]

I think Hoke is building a strong offense for a few years down the road (2015 or 2016). I think Borges & the returning players have a lot to prove before they get credit for being dynamic.

You have Funchess, no arguement , he is the ultimate play maker at Tightend end of discussion.

Had you not declared a win for yourself and ended the discussion, I might ask that 'the ultimate playmaker' catch more than 0-1 passes in every single B1G game (with a high water mark of 2 in OOC play). Talented athlete that could be a weapon if used properly. Maybe Gardner should throw him the football so he stops wasting away on my fantasy roster for a second straight year (fool me twice...).
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You have young grinders at tailback although young in deveon and green, that is what this offense needs.

No, this offense needs better blocking. It remains to be seen whether the 'greatest OL recruiting in america' will see the highly touted youngsters beat out the walkons inside.

You have an explosive quarterback, check.

No not really. You have a promising quarterback, but explosive is hardly a word I'd use for him.

Than you bring in bigger receivers

For the jump ball approach? Or are they just better by not being small?

, 2 four star men, and move the midgets rich rod brought inside. (Gallon had 60 receptions last year).

I'm confused, are the bigger guys better or is Gallon a quality possession WR in spite of his size?

And I think that makes a pretty good offense

It didn't make a very good offense last year. Now we'll have to see what Devin looks like when he isn't being wasted at WR because there was such poor recruiting at the position by RR & Hoke. Fortunately for Devin's career, they got away with a medical redshirt when RR wasted a year of eligibility to send Tate a lesson (that worked out well).

, but the year after with Drake Harris and another year of Funchess and the running backs will be more explosive.

Which is the first explosive, high profile WR hoke will have landed and will also be a true frosh. With two new tackles being broken in.

 

[jwinslow]

The point you're still missing is that these are buckeye shenanigans on buckeye planet poking fun at their rivals for being chunky. It isn't a civilized, logical debate about the merits of their body fat index and its direct correlation to their long term potential & performance (outside of maybe Green). It doesn't need to be defended and I'd argue it can't be it is basically just shenanigans.

And as I said multiple times, you can win with soft bellied grinders. That shouldn't preclude rivals from poking fun at them, like UM fans did routinely with Justin Boren's belly or JB Shugarts' flowing locks.

Alright Supersteve, ya were not on goblue your right. Who said Morgan is a monster? He is not steve, Bolden is in his second year at 228 , he will be fine.

You tossed out the hyperbole that Shazier is smaller than every michigan linebacker, when he's about the same size as Morgan and Bolden. I would say Bolden and Shazier are a bit smaller than is ideal.

Hall came in as a tackle correct? He could not cut it at tackle and moved inside because of better players correct steve?

He saw some duty at RT but he was always projected to start at guard with Adams & Shugarts as bookends for what was expected to be 3 of his 4 years (before his grade-driven redshirt year).

I do not on Michigan board see not one person poking fun at 17 year old kids, actually giving compliments to the running back from Oregon and such, but ok steve.

yes, it was all rainbows and hugs this offseason lol.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I concede OSU pictures of football players, can beat Michigans pictures of football players.

I could hear the collar popping when I read this.

What a fucking douchebag.

 

[jwinslow]

It really does not matter how many explosive players you have, if you don't have an offensive line worth a damn.

Absolutely. OSU really only had 2 dynamic athletes they could lean on, and one of them was a QB that spent large portions of games (usually the 1st half) not scrambling, passing or running the option very well. The other was a speedy flanker masquerading as a slot back, leaving no WRs outside that were both explosive and reliable.

But with their physical road grading line, their consistent but not dynamic back and elusive QB were able to impose their will on defenses on the ground.



Fitz Toussaint didn't suddenly forget how to run the football. The blocking upfront took a big step back and now there are a few walkons and very young OL in the mix to replace the departed trio of so so OL. If the unit gels and matures quickly, Fitz will suddenly return to his old form and Green will be a productive bruiser. If they struggle or develop slowly, there will be a lot more fat jokes from rival fans.

 

[jwinslow]

I still can't get over the irony of an Eddie George worshipper rocking his # in a winged helmet.

I happen to like Devon Smith tape better than greens.

There were a number of buckeye fans that felt that way also, not to mention Urban Meyer.

green could be a world beater or flame out.

Meanwhile I'd argue that Smith has a much higher floor. I don't know if he'll be a high draft pick or not but I don't see him being a benchwarmer.

 

[Muck]

You have Funchess, no arguement , he is the ultimate play maker at Tightend end of discussion.

Well hell I guess there isn't anything more to discuss is there?

You have a tight end, what else do you need to go along with 30 offensive linemen?

Supersteve....steve....steve....steve.

....and thus you've conceded that you really have no argument.

It really does not matter how many explosive players you have, if you don't have an offensive line worth a damn.

Hey that sounds great on paper but it matters when you have zero explosive players because your coach is determined to fill your roster with idealized versions of himself....lazy slobs posing for homoerotic photos in between bouts of BBQ sauce wrestling.

Like I've said many times, watching Gerry Faust the return up in Wal Mart land is going to be enjoyable.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

I don't give a [censored] if other boards aren't poking funs at opponents' players, especially players of their main rival. If this bothers you, then you can high-tail you ass outta here. Keep this [Mark May] up, and I'll make that decision for you...

Keep what up, speaking my opinion? Lol I am worried about you making that decision for me. I hope you feel like a man when you tail people out of a site you do not own without any real violations. And I have posted all positive stuff about Buckeyes , EVERY time outside of the TSUN shenanigans thread. Don't be so sensative.

And Jwinslow, I respect your opinion. I am saying it is better that Gallon can now move all around the field and make plays. Darboh I am banking on being a pretty nice receiver this year for Michigan, but if not and no one who can step up, there offense will tank. They can not have 9 men in the box all game like last year. I just think Funchess is an elite pass catching tightend, and A.J williams is an elite blocking tightend which makes a good tandem, but unfortunetly for them, neighter can do both great, Though word is a.j has great hands. Many analysts think this will be devin's coming out party this year, I think (hope) so. We will have too see. The man thing for me is my worry about the center position. I think both new guards are doing well and excelling every day, I just have a bad feeling about center. I know Michigan got the number 1 center in the nation in Kugler, but being 287 pounds and a true freshman I do not think he is ready. Center is the anchor of an offense, so that should scare any Wolverine fan.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Keep what up, speaking my opinion? Lol I am worried about you making that decision for me. I hope you feel like a man when you tail people out of a site you do not own without any real violations. And I have posted all positive stuff about Buckeyes , EVERY time outside of the TSUN shenanigans thread. Don't be so sensative.

There's a big difference between stating an opinion and bitching like a school girl because *wah* someone made fun of your players...and you have the gal to say "don't be so sensative [sic]".

 

[NFBuck]

Keep what up, speaking my opinion? Lol I am worried about you making that decision for me. I hope you feel like a man when you tail people out of a site you do not own without any real violations. And I have posted all positive stuff about Buckeyes , EVERY time outside of the TSUN shenanigans thread. Don't be so sensative.

And Jwinslow, I respect your opinion. I am saying it is better that Gallon can now move all around the field and make plays. Darboh I am banking on being a pretty nice receiver this year for Michigan, but if not and no one who can step up, there offense will tank. They can not have 9 men in the box all game like last year. I just think Funchess is an elite pass catching tightend, and A.J williams is an elite blocking tightend which makes a good tandem, but unfortunetly for them, neighter can do both great, Though word is a.j has great hands. Many analysts think this will be devin's coming out party this year, I think (hope) so. We will have too see. The man thing for me is my worry about the center position. I think both new guards are doing well and excelling every day, I just have a bad feeling about center. I know Michigan got the number 1 center in the nation in Kugler, but being 287 pounds and a true freshman I do not think he is ready. Center is the anchor of an offense, so that should scare any Wolverine fan.

There is nothing more pathetic, nothing, than a person who goes on his main rival's board to white knight his football team. It is assuredly the biggest waste of time on the planet.

I think we've found our scUM version of thaKid.