2013 TSUN shenanigans and arguments

[ColumbusSublime]

? Really? Making fun of kids?

JWins...do a compare and contrast...my goodness this is awesome.

This what a football team should like...pics of about 6-7 true freshmen.

http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....12&ReturnPageNumber=3&RowCount=1&PageNumber=1

what is your point, shazier looks TINY compared to any linebacker at Michigan that has been there for more than a year. But we know he can ball, and he is a beast so who cares? All your pictures were of linemen, who Michigan wants to bring in huge and sculpt them, instead of small and add weight on them like richrod years, what is wrong with that? I think Michigan has recruited offensive linemen better than any college since coach Hoke has arrived.
Has Evan Lisle ever lifted a weight son? Different teams have different philosophy. Saban brings in linemen 320 plus and sclups them, he is a power team. Hoke is trying to instill that same thing. But if you have to make your self feel better by posting pictures of 17-18 year old kids as a reason to justify your superiority , than I feel very bad for you, something happened along your life to mess ya up son.

http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....12&ReturnPageNumber=1&RowCount=1&PageNumber=8

You bring up a picture of Mike Mccray who everyone said was a big fat guy, over and over when Michigan got his commitment. He is playing ahead of a higher rater guy who came in runnning a 4.5 and benching 225 - 26 times. This is not a body competition this is football.

This guy is a linebacker? ..... Really?
http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....2&ReturnPageNumber=1&RowCount=1&PageNumber=13

Isn't this the Buckeyes freshman, who has been tearing up? But looks to not have a ounce of muscle on him?
http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....2&ReturnPageNumber=2&RowCount=1&PageNumber=16

If you want to make fun of freshman linemen, lets do something that makes sense, compare seniors and junior linemen with each other. Marcus Hall and Taylor lewan or Micheal schofield, they both make Hall look like those freshman your making fun of. Football is not a muscle fest buddy.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

This guy is a linebacker? ..... Really?
http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....2&ReturnPageNumber=1&RowCount=1&PageNumber=13

Isn't this the Buckeyes freshman, who has been tearing up? But looks to not have a ounce of muscle on him?
http://photo.the-ozone.net/details....2&ReturnPageNumber=2&RowCount=1&PageNumber=16

Neither one of these guys are fat. The top guy, Craig Fada, isn't even a scholarship player. The bottom guy, Michael Hill, is a 300-lb DT and doesn't have near the lard that many of the Michigan linemen do...and he hasn't been under the S&G program for long.

 

[heisman]

They were in great shape under RichRod and they were fat and lazy under Carr and Hoke. I'm sure they would rather be fat and lazy and 9-4, than in great shape and 7-6. Make no mistake though, until they get a coach who does more than spend the entire practice coaching the linemen, they won't be an elite program.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

They were in great shape under RichRod and they were fat and lazy under Carr and Hoke. I'm sure they would rather be fat and lazy and 9-4, than in great shape and 7-6. Make no mistake though, until they get a coach who does more than spend the entire practice coaching the linemen, they won't be an elite program.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Michigan is getting elite skilled position players, and in 15' the number 1 running back and receiver. Michigan is going to start two tackles, one is a top5 pick other will go before third round in draft. The linebacker corp is becoming a strong point loaded with dept now for Michigan, especially when Jake Ryan gets back. I know your exagerating but Mattison and co. coach more than linemen during practice lol. Barely lost to Ohio st and should have beat the 6th rated South Carolina ( which Lewan did stuff Clowney all game). So Michigan is not too far off from the upper echelon teams at all. Once again I respect your opinion and this is mine. Michigan will lose 2 games this year.

 

[OhioState001]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Michigan is getting elite skilled position players, and in 15' the number 1 running back and receiver. Michigan is going to start two tackles, one is a top5 pick other will go before third round in draft. The linebacker corp is becoming a strong point loaded with dept now for Michigan, especially when Jake Ryan gets back. I know your exagerating but Mattison and co. coach more than linemen during practice lol. Barely lost to Ohio st and should have beat the 6th rated South Carolina ( which Lewan did stuff Clowney all game). So Michigan is not too far off from the upper echelon teams at all. Once again I respect your opinion and this is mine. Michigan will lose 2 games this year.

You barely lost to Ohio State on the scoreboard. The reality is TTUN didn't cross the 50 in the second half.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Michigan is getting elite skilled position players, and in 15' the number 1 running back and receiver. Michigan is going to start two tackles, one is a top5 pick other will go before third round in draft. The linebacker corp is becoming a strong point loaded with dept now for Michigan, especially when Jake Ryan gets back. I know your exagerating but Mattison and co. coach more than linemen during practice lol. Barely lost to Ohio st and should have beat the 6th rated South Carolina ( which Lewan did stuff Clowney all game). So Michigan is not too far off from the upper echelon teams at all. Once again I respect your opinion and this is mine. Michigan will lose 2 games this year.

2 game (out of every 6) this year. FIFY.

I love the previous argument that Michigan is back BECAUSE ALABAMA. There's only one Nick Saban, the tyrannical little master that he is. Just because Michigan is recruiting for an under center, pro offense doesn't mean they will succeed in replicating Alabama's success. In fact, the odds are stacked against them in even coming close to that. Brady Hoke seems like a decent human being with a soul, Nick Saban is none of those things. That's apparent because Saban complains about hurry up offenses, he oversigns, and he (Alabama) donates cash to recruits schools. So far, Brady Hoke hasn't done any of those things. Just because Michigan fans want to emulate Alabama, it's not going to happen unless they sacrifice some other values they currently hold.

 

[heisman]

Michigan will lose 2 games this year.

If Gardner stays healthy, I've got them at 9-4. If Gardner gets hurt, I've got them at 5-7. I saw their backup QB last year, and that may have been the funniest thing I've ever seen.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

You barely lost to Ohio State on the scoreboard. The reality is TTUN didn't cross the 50 in the second half.

I coach highschool football and scoreboard is all that matters. I have had teams win, barely crossing over the 50. I get your point though. And I can not say what if this or what if that, because that is hypocritical. Osu beat Michigan and that is all that matters, your right.

Look what Snyder has to say about Michigan's tackles. I think Alabama's are right there too honestly.

Mark Snyder ‏@Mark__Snyder 3m
Mel Kiper said UM's tackles may be the best combo in college football

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

So Michigan is not too far off from the upper echelon teams at all.

Maybe scUM should try and be a top tier team in the BIG before declaring upper echelon status.

 

[Onebuckfan]

I coach highschool football and scoreboard is all that matters. I have had teams win, barely crossing over the 50. I get your point though. And I can not say what if this or what if that, because that is hypocritical. Osu beat Michigan and that is all that matters, your right.

Look what Snyder has to say about Michigan's tackles. I think Alabama's are right there too honestly.

Mark Snyder ‏@Mark__Snyder 3m
Mel Kiper said UM's tackles may be the best combo in college football

I wonder how many TD's those tackles will score this year. If the skill players are mediocre talk up the tackles..

 

[Buckeye86]

Look what Snyder has to say about Michigan's tackles. I think Alabama's are right there too honestly.

Mark Snyder ‏@Mark__Snyder 3m
Mel Kiper said UM's tackles may be the best combo in college football

And yet, our true freshman DE made your starting LT look like a clown pretty consistently last year.

True freshman making first round scUM talent look like chumps is a fine tradition at Ohio State, so you can't blame Lewan too much.

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

I wonder how many TD's those tackles will score this year. If the skill players are mediocre talk up the tackles..

An oldie but a goodie.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

I coach highschool football and scoreboard is all that matters. I have had teams win, barely crossing over the 50. I get your point though. And I can not say what if this or what if that, because that is hypocritical. Osu beat Michigan and that is all that matters, your right.

Look what Snyder has to say about Michigan's tackles. I think Alabama's are right there too honestly.

Mark Snyder ‏@Mark__Snyder 3m
Mel Kiper said UM's tackles may be the best combo in college football

Doubtful. Define 'coach'. Like you stand on the sleds as weight? Or are responsible for a position? A coordinator? You can barely structure sentences. Also, you have provided no insights into scheme or what you have seen out of players that support your opinions. My guess is your football knowledge is sourced via the Scout message boards.

 

[bucknut502]

I coach highschool football and scoreboard is all that matters. I have had teams win, barely crossing over the 50. I get your point though. And I can not say what if this or what if that, because that is hypocritical. Osu beat Michigan and that is all that matters, your right.

Look what Snyder has to say about Michigan's tackles. I think Alabama's are right there too honestly.

Mark Snyder ‏@Mark__Snyder 3m
Mel Kiper said UM's tackles may be the best combo in college football

Eric Fisher was the #1 overall pick in the draft and led the Chippewas to an outstanding 7-6 last year...Go ahead and have the best Tackle in the country, we don’t mind

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Michigan will lose 2 games this year.

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