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Buckeye86
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2336746; said:
I thought of the exact same play when I read that post.
I was going to respond, but if a picture is worth a thousand words that GIF is worth a dissertation on why Michigan's offense is not going to intimidate elite defenses with their "mobile" qbs and "speed is overrated" WRs.
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HorseshoeFetish
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Buckeye86;2336749; said:
The Hoosiers just might be better at both positions than scUM is. When the schedule came out for the next couple of seasons I was happy to see IU the week before THE GAME. Now I'm glad we had the kind of game against them that we did last year so there won't be any "taking them lightly" attitudes.
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Buckeye86
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residentmfan;2336687; said:
The ridiculousness of this example has been covered plenty of times at this point, but I'd like to point out that your example proves the exact opposite of your point.
Ginn's elite speed allowed him to dominate in college despite obvious deficiencies as a WR that have held him back in the NFL.
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residentmfan
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Buckeye86;2336742; said:
That gif proves what exactly? Morris got lit up in a high school all-star game by Matthew Thomas, the #1 LB in his class and a freakish athlete from Florida. I never once implied that Morris was Michael Vick. One thing he's certainly not though is Jon Navarre.
Navarre was all-time slow for a QB. Morris isn't going to be running a 5.4 in the 40 like Navarre. Morris absolutely does have some mobility to him. Wilton Speight, the 2014 QB commit looks even more nimble than Morris despite being 6'6 and 225 pounds. Neither one of those QB's are complete lead foots like Jon Navarre was.
I stand by my Ginn comment. Speed is overrated for WR's. Dwayne Jarrett and Mike Williams absolutely dominated at USC and neither one could run fast. Marquise Walker dominated at Michigan and he was slow as dirt. Jason Avant was a quality All-Conference WR and 4th round pick and he probably ran a 4.8 in the 40. The position will always come down to route running and catching the football.
And people calling out Braylon? Really? Not that much difference between the #3 or #9 pick, and Braylon made 2 Pro Bowls and in his best season he scored 17 receiving TD's. Almost 3 times as many receiving TD's as Ted Ginn has scored in his entire NFL career. A better Michigan guy to bring up for the purposes of this discussion probably would have been David Terrell.
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residentmfan
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BUCKYLE;2336903; said:
Ginn was never that great of a WR even in college. Incredible return guy, one of the best I've ever seen. Kind of meh as an actual you know, wide receiver.
Ginn playing that Percy Harvin role for Meyer would have been something to see.
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residentmfan;2336902; said:
We're talking college, fuckwad. Ginn has three pairs of Gold Pants...overrate that, dipshit.
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residentmfan;2336907; said:
In college football, hybrid speed guys like Ginn (and several of the players Meyer recruited this year) can and often do dominate. It might not be the same in the NFL. But they aren't the same game. And since we're talking about college football recruiting, it might be best if you kindly didn't bring up a guy (Ginn) that owned Michigan for 3 years almost purely because of his speed.
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