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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
In general you can have a bad night and win your conference. Stanford did it last year and could do it again this year. Bama could have a bad night saturday and still win their conference. We could drop any one of the next 3 and still win the conference. I'm not talking about going undefeated. I'm talking about WINNING YOUR CONFERENCE! Be the best in your conference before you can be the best in the country.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
Interesting thing, is it would force actual reporting. They could just talk about the ifs and whats and push their agenda and controversies any more. Think of it, 'sports reporters' actually being forced to do what they call themselves. How many ESPN shows would just be 4 guys around a table staring at the camera with their mouths open drooling?
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Mariotwins
Hall of Fame
Yeah and Oregon dropped just one and is out. Winning your conference isn't about being undefeated it's about making sure your one loss is against a bunch of scrubs instead of the 2nd best team.
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More than worrying about who your "1 loss" is to, I think it's about making sure you beat the "second best" team.
Because head-to-head rightfully determines whose better where it counts despite the paper tigers.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
You can drop by losing one game. You have to know when to turn it on. When the conference title is on the line, you play your hardest, you don't flop. Stanford flopped against Utah, Oregon didn't flop against Stanford. We can still say Stanford is still better than Utah. We can't say Oregon is even as good as Stanford, they can't beat a physical team.
We could flop in one of our next three and it wouldn't hurt nearly as much as if we flop in the title game. We could lay an egg next week at Illinois, but I guarantee the guys will be fired up and playing their all in the conference title game. That is all or nothing, Pasadena or nada, Big Ten Champs or nada. When that is on the line, you don't lay an egg.
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greyscarlet
Heisman
Why so hard on the Herbie wanna be? He's just be "subjective".
Hey asshole, the word is selective!
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ulukinatme
Old Skool
C'mon, football season is short enough as it is! Theres a lot of speculation the playoff could be increased to 8 games anyway. I probably should have just quoted the previous post discussing the 8 game format.
So, hypothetically, if Northern Illinois lost to a team like Akron, and Wisconsin lost to say...Michigan State and ASU, you would put Northern Illinois ahead of MSU for a final playoff spot?
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A discussion about playoffs always establishes one thing... people who are fans of the playoffs are only interested in selective fairness.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I'm guessing you meant to say Wisconsin there.
And the problem I have with a playoff is that you're forced to fill all of the spots. I don't think Northern Illinois or Wisconsin deserves a playoff spot. By losing to Akron in your scenario, Northern Illinois has zero claim to "deserve" to be national champions. Same with Wisconsin. If everyone else in the country has 1 loss, I can see how some 1-loss teams can make a claim. But 2-loss teams really have no argument. And, yes, LSU fans, I remember 2007 - the year no one deserved to be national champions.
Buckyle brought up a scenario where a 2-loss team, playing close to home, will beat an undefeated team in a playoff. While I don't doubt that will happen (it will), I don't think it matters where it is played. It will still happen. A 2-loss team maybe wasn't playing well at the beginning of the season. Maybe they lost to a team that finished undefeated. Who knows? But at the end of the season, when the games magically count more (which means that the earlier games count less, which pisses me off), that 2-loss team "hit its stride". It happens all the time in other sports, and I don't think it's good for the sport.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
CCGs and Playoffs do nothing but diminish the regular season and the selection of teams for the major bowl slots - witness LSU - Alabama, Kansas State - Oklahoma. Then throw in "special needs" Notre Dame.
I can think of one time when a Big Ten CCG should have been played- 2002- between Iowa and Ohio State because they had not played each other in the regular season.
More than anything else, IF there has to be a playoff, then there must be 4 regional sites, NCG rotates thru each region. No free rides for sun belt teams and their tourist business.
I can think of one time when a Big Ten CCG should have been played- 2002- between Iowa and Ohio State because they had not played each other in the regular season.
More than anything else, IF there has to be a playoff, then there must be 4 regional sites, NCG rotates thru each region. No free rides for sun belt teams and their tourist business.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I still say play them at the home fields of the higher-seeded team. If that means #3 Ohio State plays at #2 Florida State, then good. If that means #4 Tip-of-Florida University has to play at #1 North Pole State College, then good. So what if you don't think fans will go see the game? I thought most of the money comes from TV. The people watching on TV are sitting in their comfortable living rooms. At least let the higher seed get it's fans to the game and support their own local economy. The NCG should be a neutral site, as best as possible.
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Yertle
Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession
That's the stupidest post I've ever read. Except for it's 100% right. Make those southern panty-wastes come north. How can the NFL play in Lambeau every year in January, but we can't send SEC homies north? Sissies.
Only flaw in your logic is it requires VOTERS to put a northern team above a southern team. Not gunna happen... at least as long as ESPN continues to be the SEC Network. So, all the home-field rule would do is give southern teams home field advantage.
Only flaw in your logic is it requires VOTERS to put a northern team above a southern team. Not gunna happen... at least as long as ESPN continues to be the SEC Network. So, all the home-field rule would do is give southern teams home field advantage.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Only problem is that our Illustrious Leader Delaney flopped over like a plastic f#ck doll and didn't even put up a fight over home field advantage in order to serve the Rose Bowl's interests. Clearly, Delaney puts the bowls interests over that of the league's schools and regional economies. After all, who's going to take him to those junkets to St. Barths every Winter.
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If only JoePed was still alive. He was the only person in the whole B1G who could fix this mess. I miss him.
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