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2013 Preseason and regular polls

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MililaniBuckeye said:
Stanford has beaten four ranked PAC-12 teams so far (Arizona State, Washington, UCLA, and Oregon State). We are also idle this week, so we can't offset a Stanford win over #2 Oregon--regardless of how close the game is--with a blowout win of our own. Stanford is #6 in the AP, 101 points behind us (Coaches' Poll isn't out yet)...they will gain big points by beating Oregon. The question will be, how many points would they gain and how many would we lose simply by being idle?
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What he said.

At the outset, the B1G is more pathetic than many of us thought. Many of people here thought--for quite compelling reasons--that Ohio State would get into the NC game by just winning out. That is not going to be the case when the B1G lets us down like this and our OOC is so weak (thank you, Cal).

Kyle makes some good points, but it seems really possible that we could have at least Oregon, Florida State and Ohio State undefeated. If so, thanks to the unimpressive start to the year, Ohio State probably would be outside looking in. As for Baylor, they have three teams ahead who have higher power rankings in the BCS computers than any team Ohio State plays. If they win out, the computers may well rank them higher.

We should also own the fact that the low ranking of the B1G is not only the ESPiN campaign. Computers don't lie so consistently.

Things would be very different if it were not for several B1G teams that made really stupid mistakes. Wisky's stupid loss to Arizona State. TSUN (count 'em, morons). Sparty against bloody Notre Dame. Penn State had several gifts from Central Florida but failed to execute on offense and defense the entire bloody game. Those games won and we are not having this discussion.

Ohio State needs a bit more luck than usual for self-inflicted wounds. Don't forget that Ohio State started out #2 and let it slip away with that shoot-out at Berkeley.

A couple of key injuries hurt, but everyone has that. It is not fair to single them out, but I think the malaise can be attributed to the upheaval over player indiscretions during the last few weeks prior to the season and to the early suspensions. It was very unsettling to the team and really hurt. There is a lesson for the Buckeyes in that.

So, it seems pretty clear to me that Ohio State is going to need two of the three ahead of us to lose and to blow out everyone on the way to the bowl to stay ahead of Baylor. Without that combination, Ohio State may still not get in, even if two of the three lose.

It's not fair but it is what it is. The Buckeyes can control what they can control. Maybe things can still work out.
 
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I think the bowl results will depend largely on whether we go to an NCG. If we do, everyone moves up a spot and it could get ugly. If we don't, I think the Big does very well.
If Northwestern unscrews themselves during this bye and manages to beat scUM they'll be a very strong 6-6 bowl team. I think we're still the only school they've played all year with Mark, Colter, and Siemian.
MSU and Wiscy are legit, Minnesota and Nebraska are decent, and scUM is a wildcard but could prove dangerous as a bottom-tier bowl matchup.
 
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What worries me is that we've somehow managed to lose points the last 2 weeks in the Coaches (and presuming Harris since it hasn't come out yet).
First we're told 2-score wins "aren't enough"; now blowing opponents out 42-0 in the first half isn't enough either ?
Hmmmm. I'm kind of wondering where these points are going as well...
 
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kujirakira said:
I think the bowl results will depend largely on whether we go to an NCG. If we do, everyone moves up a spot and it could get ugly. If we don't, I think the Big does very well.
If Northwestern unscrews themselves during this bye and manages to beat scUM they'll be a very strong 6-6 bowl team. I think we're still the only school they've played all year with Mark, Colter, and Siemian.
MSU and Wiscy are legit, Minnesota and Nebraska are decent, and scUM is a wildcard but could prove dangerous as a bottom-tier bowl matchup.
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What's really fucked up is whoever beats NW in a bowl will be propelled upward in next year's preseason poll. If you have zero history with a B1G team and beat them in a "neutral" site, it proves something. If you're tOSU and beat a complete NW team at their place, at night and they have all of their hopes and dreams riding on the game, you haven't played anybody omgz weeeeeek big ten haha can't count u suck
 
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kujirakira said:
What worries me is that we've somehow managed to lose points the last 2 weeks in the Coaches (and presuming Harris since it hasn't come out yet).
First we're told 2-score wins "aren't enough"; now blowing opponents out 42-0 in the first half isn't enough either ?
Hmmmm. I'm kind of wondering where these points are going as well...
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It seems like coaches and AP voters are increasingly trying to push FSU and Oregon as potential suitors to matchup against Alabama or against each other. The front page on the College football page of ESPN has all three teams shown together today, the setup is a bit sickening. Oregon has been impressive...against a lot of weak teams. Aside from maybe UCLA they haven't played anyone of note really. Theres no reason they should be ahead of the Bucks, OSU has blown out their fair share of opponents and the schedule has been as tough or tougher than Oregon up to this point. Oregon will get a decent test out of Stanford this week I think, but I'm not sure Stanford will be able to contain them this year. I'm hoping the upset occurs, the Ducks need to go. It would be nice if LSU were to give 'Bama a game too, but that might be wishful thinking.
 
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Guys, its plain and simple - the Buckeyes have not played at a high enough level to fend off other programs. The "win and everything will take care of itself" approach is long gone with the parity of college football and the BCS. It seems only Buckeye fans care about the win streak this year and I think that is because college football has desensitized itself with streaks because there ha bbeeen other so recently.

OSU ranked margin of victories:

#23 Wisky - 7 points
#16 NW - 10 points

Oregon:

#16 Wash - 21 points
#12 UCLA - 28 points

FSU:

#23 Maryland - 63 points
#3 Clemson - 37 points
#7 Miami - 27 points

You couple this with the fact that the Buckeyes allowed 20 points to Buffalo (D2), 34 to Cal (1-6), and a close one to Iowa - and its hard to make a case for the Buckeyes based off of Illinois, Indiana, and a shitty scUM team. The best we as fans can hope for are the top 3 losing and the Buckeyes winning out and winning BIG in every game. Anything less than a 4 TD margin of victory will be considered a let down in the eyes of the pollsters.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
Guys, its plain and simple - the Buckeyes have not played at a high enough level to fend off other programs. The "win and everything will take care of itself" approach is long gone with the parity of college football and the BCS. It seems only Buckeye fans care about the win streak this year.

OSU ranked margin of victories:

#23 Wisky - 7 points
#16 NW - 10 points

Oregon:

#16 Wash - 21 points
#12 UCLA - 28 points

FSU:

#23 Maryland - 63 points
#3 Clemson - 37 points
#7 Miami - 27 points

You couple this with the fact that the Buckeyes allowed 20 points to Buffalo (D2), 34 to Cal (1-6), and a close one to Iowa - and its hard to make a case for the Buckeyes based off of Illinois, Indiana, and a [Mark May]ty scUM team. The best we as fans can hope for are the top 3 losing and the Buckeyes winning out and winning BIG in every game. Anything less than a 4 TD margin of victory will be considered a let down in the eyes of the pollsters.
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Not that I disagree with your point, but this just annoys me so much. For one thing, Buffalo is not D2. They are D1A (or FBS as it is now called) and they are doing pretty well. An FBS team isn't even allowed to play D2 teams... Even FAMU isn't D2...
 
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