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2011 Offensive Line Discussion

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OneBuckeye;1868137; said:
I expect the 2012 starting OL to look like

LT:Norwell
LG:Mewhort
C:Lindsay/Bobeck
RG:Bobeck/Lindsay/Kalis ?
RT:Hall

I think that is an above average Oline. Just lacking experienced depth of course.
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The interesting thing is when you project the 2-deep. Especially because JT and Bolls really like to get solid reps for the whole 2-deep early in the year against the snoozers and then, there's always the injury bug.

Love to see people's projections of the 2 deep in '12.
 
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2012 2 deep...

LT:Norwell\Kalis
LG:Mewhort\Underwood
C:Lindsay\Boren
RG:Bobeck\Brown
RT:Hall\Kalis (Other 2012 tackle)

Obviously way premature. But of the 2011 class I think Bobeck is most likely to start. One of the three will have to, if not a freshman.
 
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OneBuckeye;1868449; said:
2012 2 deep...

LT:NorwellKalis
LG:MewhortUnderwood
C:LindsayBoren
RG:BobeckBrown
RT:HallKalis (Other 2012 tackle)

Obviously way premature. But of the 2011 class I think Bobeck is most likely to start. One of the three will have to, if not a freshman.
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Yeah, Bobek's a good one. Most project him as a center so if he ended up a guard for a while that would be interesting.
 
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http://www.duanelongreport.com/2011-articles/february/patching-the-holes.html

Patching the holes


Written by Duane Long | 08 February 2011

I can't get the numbers 6 and 7 out of my head these days. The British use the terms, "being at 6s and 7s" to describe confusion or disarray. Nothing could be more accurate to describe the offensive line situation going into next season.

The Buckeyes have 6 veteran scholarship offensive linemen for the first 5 games. That jumps to 7 when Mike Adams returns from his suspension. Jim Tressel has been the luckiest coach in college football with the lack of injuries on the offensive line over the years. We are 2 injuries from putting a freshman in the starting lineup or a walk-on. A program like Ohio State should never be in that situation. The Buckeyes continue to walk on the precipice when it comes to offensive line numbers, but that is not what this is about. This is about what you do to fix it.

Yes, it has to be fixed now. You can't wait until the injuries happen and do something about it. Even those that cannot possibly say anything that they call negative about the program will say that Antonio Underwood, Chris Carter or Tommy Brown will be ready to play as freshman. They are all projects.

It starts with Darryl Baldwin. I never saw him as a defensive player. He never showed the mindset to be a defensive player. Too much is being made of his performance on defense in the Big 33. I saw a tight end coming out of high school. Mark Porter threw out offensive tackle back then. I said maybe but I had no idea he was going to get this big ever let alone this soon. I see a kid who is going to have a hard time finding his way on the Buckeye defensive line. I see too many talented players in the program and more coming. He could step in right now at left tackle and I think he fits the position so well that he could be an NFL player at tackle. He has the length you want in a left tackle. He was always a very athletic kid. The additional weight has impacted that athleticism but he is still plenty athletic for a left tackle. The position is wide open. Whether Baldwin has an impact on the program on defense remains to be seen. That he would have an impact on the program at left tackle is not in doubt. In addition, a player already lined up at left tackle would allow us the opportunity to bring along Kyle Kalis, or whatever other tackle we get in the class of 2012, gradually rather than shove him into the lineup as soon as he arrives on campus.

Another player that has to be considered is Garrett Goebel. The debate when he came out of high school was whether he was a better defensive tackle candidate or an offensive tackle candidate. He has played very well on defense. Better than he has been given credit for. I don't ever like moving a big who has the speed and athleticism to play defense over to offense. The need is great. the sacrifice may need to be made. There is talent coming in on defense with Joel Hale and Michael Bennett and more help coming in 2012. I know Adam Bellamy was a talented offensive lineman but he is playing way to well to sacrifice him. The first name that comes out of fans mouths is Bennett. I think it was an easy decision to put him on defense. His upside is better on defense. On offense he will be limited by his size. His frame was one of the very few knocks on Bennett. He is going to max out his frame at right about 300 lbs. That would make him a smallish offensive lineman but decent sized for a three-technique defensive tackle.

One thing I like that the staff is doing is getting aggressive with the walk-on program. Don't wait until a diamond in the rough walks into the office. Go invite some in.
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Pure speculation here, but since it's the off-season and my job's not on the line, moving Farris and Baldwin gives a little more depth to the tackle spot. Bobek takes care of center, Underwood and Carter at the guards, Brown becomes the swing guy (tackle or guard, though I see him inside). That's an all freshman offensive line right there. Now whether or not they can block anybody is beyond my control. :biggrin:

Defensively, you'd still have Bennett and Hale inside, with Miller and Hayes on the outside. With the potential and depth of the recruiting class of '12 in Ohio alone, any potential d-line depth issues could be addressed there.

Obviously the depth situation for the Bucks 2011 o-line is not ideal. But with the versatility of Linsley, the potential of the inside walkons and a freshman or two, there's hope.
 
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If anyone gets moved I think it should be Baldwin. Farris would be my second choice, but I think he will be too special on D. Goebell is too far along in his career and will be missed on the Dline if he were to be moved. What about Reid Fragel, everyone thought he would be an OT sooner rather than later. I like him a lot as a TE, and I would hate to not have him there in 2011 but he may have more potential than anyone.
 
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OneBuckeye;1871376; said:
What about Reid Fragel, everyone thought he would be an OT sooner rather than later. I like him a lot as a TE, and I would hate to not have him there in 2011 but he may have more potential than anyone.
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With the way Fragel played this season I would hope not. We need some experience at TE in case Stoneburner goes down again. Fragel is going to be a RS Jr. that's a little late as well.
 
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