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2011-2012 Men's Buckeye Basketball (Final Four Season)

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LitlBuck;2030516; said:
I have been meaning to bring up this point as well. I know that Sullinger can shoot from the outside, I would rather see him pass the ball to one of our outside shooters like Buford, Thomas, and other perimeter guys. I guess it's all right for him to have some fun during the preseason but when we get into the meat of the schedule I want him down low where he can do real damage and not on the outside. He can practice his outside shooting with Chris Jent during free time.
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On the flip side it pulls the opposing big man out of the paint because he has to respect that shot. Sets up numerous offensive strategies with him out there. As long as its used briefly per game out of some set I could see it being an asset.
 
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If Sullinger can knock down the outside J it just makes the team harder to defend. I have no problem with his taking the shots if he can make them - and I think he's demonstrated he can.

With Ravenel, Thomas and Williams banging inside (with apparent assistance from Lenzelle Smith, who showed some Windex skill himself), Sully venturing outside has a bit less impact on our ability to follow the shot.
 
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MaxBuck;2030612; said:
If Sullinger can knock down the outside J it just makes the team harder to defend. I have no problem with his taking the shots if he can make them - and I think he's demonstrated he can.

With Ravenel, Thomas and Williams banging inside (with apparent assistance from Lenzelle Smith, who showed some Windex skill himself), Sully venturing outside has a bit less impact on our ability to follow the shot.
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I tend to agree with this, but Sully is SO good on the boards, that I like him close so that he can clean up his own, or anyone else's mess.
 
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MaxBuck;2030612; said:
If Sullinger can knock down the outside J it just makes the team harder to defend. I have no problem with his taking the shots if he can make them - and I think he's demonstrated he can.

With Ravenel, Thomas and Williams banging inside (with apparent assistance from Lenzelle Smith, who showed some Windex skill himself), Sully venturing outside has a bit less impact on our ability to follow the shot.
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Yep. It's nice to know that the team can play 3 around 2, 4 around 1 or 5 out without changing the lineup. That, my friends, is versatility.
 
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lord vegas;2030632; said:
The shock of the game to me was Spoon. His game has dramatically improved. He was more athlete than Bball player in HS and his first year at tOSU. His handle and jumpshot have come along way.
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^^^this^^^ that 3 pointer he drained was smooth
 
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MaxBuck;2030612; said:
If Sullinger can knock down the outside J it just makes the team harder to defend. I have no problem with his taking the shots if he can make them - and I think he's demonstrated he can.

With Ravenel, Thomas and Williams banging inside (with apparent assistance from Lenzelle Smith, who showed some Windex skill himself), Sully venturing outside has a bit less impact on our ability to follow the shot.
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I guess I would rather see the permanent guys taking the shots because I do not think that Williams and Ravenel are going to be seeing that much playing time when the season begins especially Williams (he has a lot to learn). I don't mind Sully taking a few 3's a game that I do not think it makes us harder to defend because the opposing big men does not necessarily have to come out with him.

^^^this^^^ that 3 pointer he drained was smooth
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LitlBuck;2030656; said:
I guess I would rather see the permanent guys taking the shots because I do not think that Williams and Ravenel are going to be seeing that much playing time when the season begins especially Williams (he has a lot to learn). I don't mind Sully taking a few 3's a game that I do not think it makes us harder to defend because the opposing big men does not necessarily have to come out with him.

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Ravenel will play a lot. 15-20 mins on average. Hopefully he can steal some of Deisel's minutes. We really need to keep Deshaun under 30 mins, hopefully around 28.

Williams will be solid on D this season with his length but I think he play a similar role (mins) as Sibert did last season. By that I mean he'll be used in close games only if foul trouble or match-ups suggest so.
 
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2 more days!

had a chance to talk to a friend who is a former player and has watched and participated in multiple practices this year and to echo what some had already said in some way, that if LaQuinton Ross was eligible he would be starting over deshaun thomas according to my friend...hes that good....hopefully we can get him back in december...the depth we have now is great but it sounds like with Ross back we could have one of the deepest teams matta has ever coached
 
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lord vegas;2030632; said:
The shock of the game to me was Spoon. His game has dramatically improved. He was more athlete than Bball player in HS and his first year at tOSU. His handle and jumpshot have come along way.
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IMO Thompson, Spoon, and Ravenel were pleasant surprises. My goodness this team is deep.
 
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I'm alright with sully shooting 15 footers. I think we could have a helluva high-low post game, I just don't really see a reason for Sully to shoot threes other than him trailing on the break.

And Litlbuck, Weatherspoon was 100% from 3, only shot one. You're thinking of Sully.

Whoever said hopefully that was just some preseason fun made a good point. Hopefully that was the case.
 
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Something Sylvester said during the broadcast -- the depth allows Matta to use a lot of different looks and lineups, depending on opponent and situation. I like that he can go with a rebounding lineup, a scoring lineup or a defense lineup. I think just about any combination can play both up-tempo and half court, but he can work those matchups to take advantage of skill and physical differences with teams he plays. This is going to be a year where Matta shows how well he can coach. I don't think it's going to be a situation of "here's our six to seven guys I'll play for 30+ minutes each".

Outside of the four returning major contributors, both Smith and Sibert look like guys who will have strong, though different, roles. We've all mentioned Sam Thompson and Weatherspoon, and Ravenel is likely the first guy off the bench. Scott needs a little time, but the talent is clearly there. That's ten guys who legitimately have an argument to see the court right now, even before Ross joins the team.

As someone mentioned, Amir Williams did look like a Freshman. His size and body type don't, however. It will be interesting to watch how he develops these first two months.

Having said all of that, I don't think we'll see all 10-11 guys on the scoresheet every single night, but there will be games where all of them see meaningful minutes, depending on opponent and game situation. We're especially going to appreciate that come tournament time.
 
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