2010 TSUN News (in-season)

[BayBuck]

I see what you're saying. My comparison was meant as more of a hire of a lesser known coach. But I understand what you mean about recruiting.

For a Tressel-type of hire, I liked KC Keeler from Delaware for scUM when they hired RichRod, and I do again now (though obviously that goes against what I said about in-state recruiting ties).

 

[WolverineMike]

You got no shot at any of those guys.

You couldn't pry Patterson or Bumpas out of TCU with a crowbar and a stick of dynamite. Same for Petersen at Boise.

I can't see Fitz moving away from his Alma Mater to an in-conference rival.

OK, maybe you got a shot at Bellotti if he wants to get back into coaching, but I don't see that happening.

TCU moving to the Big East put a huge bump in that road. I know.

Peterson is probably set for life at BSU. There is no pressure on him there and probably never will be.

 

[WolverineMike]

For a Tressel-type of hire, I liked KC Keeler from Delaware for scUM when they hired RichRod, and I do again now (though obviously that goes against what I said about in-state recruiting ties).

We would have to look at one of the in state directional schools I think in order to secure in state recruiting. But none of those guys do anything for me.

which of course brings us back to Harbaugh for a good balance in coaching and recruiting.

 

[BB73]

For a Tressel-type of hire, I liked KC Keeler from Delaware for scUM when they hired RichRod, and I do again now (though obviously that goes against what I said about in-state recruiting ties).

On the plus side, he's used to looking at those ugly helmets. :tongue2:

 

[buckeyesin07]

Don't quote me and then act like you're just talking about people in general. If you want to attack me, so be it, i'm a big boy. I can defend my posts.

Since you are asking some semblance of a question mixed in with weak attempt at trying to make me look "arrogant," i'll answer.......

Harbaugh wouldn't even be my number 1 choice. Don't lump us all together in the mindset that JH is going to walk on water here and turn UM around in a matter of months.

As for Hoke, simply put, as a head coach in 8 seasons he has a losing record. 46-50 overall at Ball St and San Diego State

5 out of 8 seasons he's had a losing record. 6 out of 8 seasons he hasn't won more than 7 games.

The guy doesn't impress me and the ONLY reason his name is being thrown around Ann Arbor is the simple fact he was DL coach at UM in the late 90's.

He has some up side in that he is a fine recruiter, something that has definitely been lacking the last three years, but I would like to see a someone with better coaching experience at the helm as well.

I have nothing to be arrogant about. The program is in a [Mark May] storm right now. But lucky for you, I can still give my opinion on who I think deserves the job, and who I think doesn't. Does my opinion matter to anybody but me? Not really, but it's just my opinion. I've never claimed to be some sort of football guru.

Trust me, if somebody gets hired that I don't agree with, I'm still going to cheer my ass off and hope anything I've said about them is proven wrong. But no, Hoke is not on my short list of coaches I would like to see replace Rich Rod.

And on the topic of Rich Rod. If for some reason he is retained, which I now think would be the wrong decision, I'll still root for him to win and turn it around.

 

[buck1973]

We would have to look at one of the in state directional schools I think in order to secure in state recruiting. But none of those guys do anything for me.

which of course brings us back to Harbaugh for a good balance in coaching and recruiting.

You wouldn't want Ron English? Michigan Man. In state recruiting. He's got it all!

 

[WolverineMike]

oh, so you're saying you didn't actually want to have a discussion about the coaching situation. you just wanted to pop in and talk a little [Mark May] and add nothing to the thread.

That's what the shenanigans thread is for. do you require a link to find it?

 

[WolverineMike]

You wouldn't want Ron English? Michigan Man. In state recruiting. He's got it all!

he really looks like he would want the job....

 

[goblue15]

Better than a two-time consensus All American, two-time Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year, and number one pick in the NFL draft? Not just "better", but "way ahead"? Okay, I guess that you don't really care too much about your credibility around here....

I said he has the potential to be. I pretty clearly said if you compare their redshirt freshman years at Michigan, Lewan is ahead of where Long was. Does that mean Lewan is going to be as good as Long? No, but i am pretty confident that this kid is going to be really good.

 

[Steve19]

Better than a two-time consensus All American, two-time Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year, and number one pick in the NFL draft? Not just "better", but "way ahead"? Okay, I guess that you don't really care too much about your credibility around here....

Wait. Do you know who you're talking to?

 

[buckeyesin07]

oh, so you're saying you didn't actually want to have a discussion about the coaching situation. you just wanted to pop in and talk a little [Mark May] and add nothing to the thread.

That's what the shenanigans thread is for. do you require a link to find it?

. Remember--this is a Buckeye board. If you want to cry in your beer about the current state of UM football and reminisce about the glory years of UM football (and talk about other pre-1920s topics), perhaps you should check out a UM board. I simply asked why seemingly any UM perspective you read lately concludes that UM is too good for Hoke, when I perceive him (assuming Harbaugh's not on the table) to be a significant upgrade from RR.

 

[BB73]

. Remember--this is a Buckeye board. If you want to cry in your beer about the current state of UM football and reminisce about the glory years of UM football (and talk about other pre-1920s topics), perhaps you should check out a UM board. I simply asked why seemingly any UM perspective you read lately concludes that UM is too good for Hoke, when I perceive him (assuming Harbaugh's not on the table) to be a significant upgrade from RR.

He made a statement of opinion, you quoted him and used the word 'arrogant', and then he responded with a pretty solid post that further explained his position, and he wasn't whining about anything.

BP prefers to have the perspective of fans of other teams added to the mix, as long as they remember it is a Buckeye board. Yes, even fans of TSUN. If they're posting in a reasonable manner, we'd rather not have Buckeye fans trying to run them off.

Your constant baiting of W-Mike in this and other threads has become tiresome. It's time you backed off and gave him a break.

 

[heisman]

He made a statement of opinion, you quoted him and used the word 'arrogant', and then he responded with a pretty solid post that further explained his position, and he wasn't whining about anything.

BP prefers to have the perspective of fans of other teams added to the mix, as long as they remember it is a Buckeye board. Yes, even fans of TSUN. If they're posting in a reasonable manner, we'd rather not have Buckeye fans trying to run them off.

Your constant baiting of W-Mike in this and other threads has become tiresome. It's time you backed off and gave him a break.

Yes, please remember, I'm the only one allowed to run him off. :)

 

[buckeyesin07]

Kind of interesting to read that some UM fans (Disclaimer: I'm not talking about W-Mike) think UM should go after Fitzgerald if Harbaugh's not available. I'm not sure why they think Fitzgerald would leave his alma mater for UM. Sure, RR is an example of a coach who did just that, but I'm not sure, to put it mildly, that RR and Fitzgerald are cut from the same mold.

 

[WolverineMike]

Fitzy would be a total reach. But knowing he's a great coach is good reason to approach him. What's the worst these guys are going to say? No thanks.

So much blogging and junk going on and speculation, but I read one interesting comment as to if DB whiffs on Harbaugh, then they could stick with RR for another season and then go after a retired Urban Meyer.

At this point, with all the public perception out there, I don't know how you could keep RR for another year. Even a lot of the die hard RR supporters seem to have given up on him after the bowl loss.