2010 SEC and Big Ten OOC football schedules

[buckeyemania11]

If the SEC wins its 5th BCSNC in a row, I'll care as much as I did when our OOC schedule was an issue before the SEC's 4th BCSNC in row...which is little or not at all.

I hate when people say "THE CONFERENCE WON THE TITLE!!!!!"

NO.... TEAMS win titles NOT conferences

LSU Florida Alabama have won the title

NOT the SEC

Georgia
Auburn
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

all won nothing, and having nothing to do with mentioned teams winning

I personally dont get the celebration of rival teams winning the title either, if scUM or State Penn won the national title I would be pretty pissed off

 

[buckeyesin07]

Tennesee plays Oregon.

I missed that one. At first, I thought that would be a good game. Then I realized the SEC team won't be able to hold its own.

 

[SSS]

Almost every damn OOC game we played against the Noles in their glory years were against a higher ranked team than most OOC games by Big-10 teams those years.

and was the sec as dominant then?

It's a lot more comfortable and easier to scout/prepare for an annual opponent than to travel dwe away and take on a distant foe.

You'll have to explain why playing some unranked OOC BCS conference team out of the south is supposed to be a more worthy task than playing the number one or two ranked Noles (with all of those NFL players during those glory years) in the south. But that is your premise. So enjoy. Pardon me if that stat does not move me.

the topic is about how things go when you leave your comfort zone. Lsu has had their hands full with two bad PAC 10 teams far from their home turf.

The crystal trophies look just as shiny even with a '91 loss to Syracuse.

Wonderful. The point remains even a great uf team struggled when they left their region.



The stats show a clear trend, going out of the sec region has been unkind overall, even against some meager foes.




I'm glad to see Georgia step up their ooc scheduling, and bama has some good ones coming up.


This isn't exclusive to the sec. Psu and wisc often schedule easier ooc lineups. And guess what? They usually beat or compete well with the mighty sec in bowls.



The argument isn't that those teams aren't good, but rather that their cushy scheduling helps protect their record.

 

[Gatorubet]

If you're so [censored]ing good, then as a fan of Florida football...why don't you want to see better games?

Kyle, UF has a sort of unique situation. We "lose" the revenue of a home game when we go to the WLOCP. We are tied in to play FSU (away) every other year. That leaves a few cream puffs as tune ups and - of great importance to our AD and to our other non-football programs - the large home revenue from tickets and drink/etc sales you can only get playing at home.

We fund a hell of a lot of non-big three sports with that revenue. Always have. Since the invention of the SECCG, we well may, like the last two years, play a No. 1 or No. 2 team who knows us like a book. Scary [censored]. So our considered opinion, given the lock in of the WLOCP, FSU away and SECCG reality is that our SOS is such that we do not need it. That is all.

And with this SEC love fest at its height, it makes less sense to travel OOC now. Win, and we get little rep (not here, but among the BCS voters) if we win, but will take a huge hit if we lose or win close. It brings us very little prestige for our giving up a lot of money.

Me? I'd like a home and home against the Big-10 or Pac-10, with each seed determined by the current year's rankings, and the unranked teams seeded by last year's ranking or finish. If #1 SEC versus #1 Big-10, then #2 versus #2, etc., that would be awesome, and we (SEC) would all be risking the same thing. Playing an individual highly ranked OOC game is just not smart, as ranking is one of the tie breakers in our divisions, and if we were the only ones to do so, a close win might lose us a shot at the division title and a shot at the auto Sugar Bowl berth.

Call it cowardly. Call it cheap. You have the luxury of not playing a top ten team in a conference championship game, and we do not. That has consequences for our OOC schedules.

 

[Gatorubet]

I hate when people say "THE CONFERENCE WON THE TITLE!!!!!"
yabbady blabbady blah

Then keep others from talking about the "Conference". You know - the point of the thread - conference OOC scheduling. Or talk to Muck about his belief that our Conference BCS wins are only due to our conference creamepuff scheduling.

Hate it all you want. It gives us rep with voters who make up part of the BCS polls. If you could dredge up a four in a row Big-10 wining streak of the BCSCG you would be stuffing it down my throat in this discussion.

No. Really, mania, you would.

Besides. I OBJECT!!!! You are gang tackling me on this and I am as hung over as a freshman at their first Fraternity Toga Party :tongue2:

If I say "You Win - SEC OOC sucks and that is why we luck into the BCS wins all the time", can I stop typing and have another bloody mary????

 

[buckeyemania11]

If you could dredge up a four in a row Big-10 wining streak of the BCSCG you would be stuffing it down my throat in this discussion.

I wouldnt

I just dont see the point of pumping up other teams in your conference, the only team I care about winning is Ohio State

like I said, if State Penn or scUM were winning national titles, I wouldnt be happy and certainly wouldnt be BRAGGING about it

 

[Gatorubet]

I wouldnt

I just dont see the point of pumping up other teams in your conference, the only team I care about winning is Ohio State

like I said, if State Penn or scUM were winning national titles, I wouldnt be happy and certainly wouldnt be BRAGGING about it

That "SEC-SEC" thing.....you should start a thread about that topic, so under discussed on BP. :p

 

[Wingate1217]

2010 is the inaugural season for Georgia State football.....and you schedule them? good riddance

That is because Minnesota State and Hayden Fox (Craig T. Nelson) were not available...

 

[Gatorubet]

That is because Minnesota State and Hayden Fox (Craig T. Nelson) were not available...

Hell, their National Championship year they beat Florida. :(

 

[Wingate1217]

Hell, their National Championship year they beat Florida. :(

And I bet the Gators had to travel across the country for that game....

 

[BigWoof31]

I'm gonna try to make 2 points. One is complimentary, the other one is me pushing back a little bit.

2010 Georgia Bulldogs Football Schedule - UGA

This site is a pretty good resource for future UGA schedules. Big name OOC games from now until 2016 are listed. Off the cuff, it features CU this year, home and homes with Clemson, Oregon, Louisville and (not listed, but in the works) Texas Tech.

Point #1
As humbling as it is for me to admit it - we have a harder time scheduling OOC games of national prominence that Ohio State because we simply don't have the prestige of your program. Period. We haven't won a National title in 30 years and have two BCS bowl wins in that time period. If the Buckeyes and the Dawgs both approach Texas about scheduling a home and home (hypothetically) - you have every measureable advantage in getting that done over us.
It's been made very clear in our efforts, that until we take home a Crystal Football, we kinda sorta have to settle for Okie State instead of OU. Oregon instead of Southern Cal and Texas Tech instead of Texas (currently in the works if you believe the rumor mill).

Having said that - if you think we're just going to take games on the road for the hell of it and not demand a home game, you're crazy. But I haven't read one Buckeye commenter suggest that, to your credit.

Point #2
If the teams in our conference have such terribly weak-sister schedules, the counter argument suggests that once we play a more "battle tested" team in the BCS, we should get totally smoked and that simply doesn't happen. Why? I have no idea. I'm left to conclude that the level of play (in addition to the exceptional coaching talent) in conference is enough to adequately prepare the teams for bowl competition. I realize that the challenge to this point is "Well, TEAM XYZ player a tougher schedule-so they're more beaten down come bowl season" but a tough OOC win in late August/early September has never been the reason for a bowl loss in January.


Exit thoughts:
1. Has Ohio State or any top level Big 10 team reached out to a top level SEC team to arrange a home/home? I really don't know-which is why I raise the point. Rep for posters who can provide evidence that an SEC team turned down a game against a Big 10 team. Outside of PSU - I can't find it anywhere?

2. I might be in the minority of UGA alums for suggesting this - but I would LOVE to drop the Tech series for 2-4 years if it meant getting home/home games with Da U, Texas, USC, OSU, UM, ND...etc
This isn't an excuse - but the OOC inter-state rivaly can be a bit of a burden at times.


Trying to keep my arguments civil folks. I hope I've raised some good points here.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

If the SEC wins its 5th BCSNC in a row, I'll care as much as I did when our OOC schedule was an issue before the SEC's 4th BCSNC in row...which is little or not at all.

dude....seriously? the conference won those titles? you really just typed that?

edit: I see mania beat me to it. I'm leaving the post because it's that absurd of a comment.

SEC-SEC-SEC

 

[Gatorubet]

dude....seriously? the conference won those titles? you really just typed that?

edit: I see mania beat me to it. I'm leaving the post because it's that absurd of a comment.

SEC-SEC-SEC

If you get a large box with holes in it, push some bananas thru them, 'cause I just sent you a poo flinging monkey.

, not

Teams in the same conference won the BCSCG four in a row (three different ones, same conference). While I respect your right not to comprehend how any conference can claim any tangential rights to a title a member of that conference won, that stance precludes you from ever using the words "The Big-10" followed by any phrase such as "sent four teams to the NCAA tourney", as all conferences are incapable of accomplishing jack shit, and only individual teams can have any relationship to athletic achievement, never a conference. Got it.

The next time you fly, I have arranged for goducks09 to sit next to you on your right while a fat AMWAY guy sits to your left and asks how many relatives you have and what's their names and numbers.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Kyle, UF has a sort of unique situation. We "lose" the revenue of a home game when we go to the WLOCP. We are tied in to play FSU (away) every other year. That leaves a few cream puffs as tune ups and - of great importance to our AD and to our other non-football programs - the large home revenue from tickets and drink/etc sales you can only get playing at home.

We fund a hell of a lot of non-big three sports with that revenue. Always have. Since the invention of the SECCG, we well may, like the last two years, play a No. 1 or No. 2 team who knows us like a book. Scary [censored]. So our considered opinion, given the lock in of the WLOCP, FSU away and SECCG reality is that our SOS is such that we do not need it. That is all.

And with this SEC love fest at its height, it makes less sense to travel OOC now. Win, and we get little rep (not here, but among the BCS voters) if we win, but will take a huge hit if we lose or win close. It brings us very little prestige for our giving up a lot of money.

Me? I'd like a home and home against the Big-10 or Pac-10, with each seed determined by the current year's rankings, and the unranked teams seeded by last year's ranking or finish. If #1 SEC versus #1 Big-10, then #2 versus #2, etc., that would be awesome, and we (SEC) would all be risking the same thing. Playing an individual highly ranked OOC game is just not smart, as ranking is one of the tie breakers in our divisions, and if we were the only ones to do so, a close win might lose us a shot at the division title and a shot at the auto Sugar Bowl berth.

Call it cowardly. Call it cheap. You have the luxury of not playing a top ten team in a conference championship game, and we do not. That has consequences for our OOC schedules.

tOSU funds as many if not more sports as UF and every other year, they get way less money than a home game because we play at their place.

 

[jwinslow]

Bigwoof, I respect those kind of games. I just want to see courage and programs willing to challenge themselves.

If the teams in our conference have such terribly weak-sister schedules, the counter argument suggests that once we play a more "battle tested" team in the BCS, we should get totally smoked and that simply doesn't happen.

I'd suggest:

1) the sec is great preparation
2) the competition for the sec bcs teams - at least during the modern era of football circa jan 1 07 - tend to be a bit weaker, if osu was as overrated as folks claim. 1 great team in 4 nc, and mid-majors or big east teams for the number two.

I think the sec has been great, but Michigan, Penn state and ohio state sure would have preferred facing Hawaii, Cincinnati or notre dame than USC or nc-snubbed Texas. Setting records against nd sure was a lot easier for both conferences in the bcs.

Exit thoughts:
1. Has Ohio State or any top level Big 10 team reached out to a top level SEC team to arrange a home/home? I really don't know-which is why I raise the point. Rep for posters who can provide evidence that an SEC team turned down a game against a Big 10 team. Outside of PSU - I can't find it anywhere?

Tennessee has agreed to one. Unsurprising, as they have been challenging themselves all decade.

Reports close to the osu program had an sec team turn down their overtures. Can't recall who that was, and obviously no link.

2. I might be in the minority of UGA alums for suggesting this - but I would LOVE to drop the Tech series for 2-4 years if it meant getting home/home games with Da U, Texas, USC, OSU, UM, ND...etc
This isn't an excuse - but the OOC inter-state rivaly can be a bit of a burden at times.

um-nd feels the same way, well the um fans anyway.
And that is an all-time classic rivalry.

Trying to keep my arguments civil folks. I hope I've raised some good points here.

Appreciated.