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Game Thread 2010 Rose Bowl: Ohio State 26 Oregon 17 (Final, 1/01/2010)

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KingLeon;1626591; said:
Uh, apparently someone doesn't know the definition of "objective" because no one on this site is objective.
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[Mili] dipshit[/Mili]

KingLeon;1626591; said:
Everyone's biases that come out especially when it comes to sports.
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I dont think you should speak in "absolutes". While many people on this site have biases, many people can also put them aside and have an intelligent conversation.
 
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goducks09;1626445; said:
While it looked like they could run it down our throats, they didn't and no team just ran the ball against Ore.
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Oh really? Because I'm pretty sure they averaged nearly 5 yards per carry en route to 140 yards on the ground. And no team has ran the ball against Oregon? Stanford ran for 254 yards... Boise for 164, Washington for 129, Washington State for 107, Utah for 119, Purdue for 170, and Arizona for 127.

TP doesn't look like a threat to throw the ball against us so I think Ore will play the run as they have done all year.
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Go ahead, we hope you decide to play the run and stack the box. For one, because we've ran for over 200 yards against much better defenses that stacked 8 in the box all game, and not only that but Pryor beat them deep for a TD.

Our D plays against a running QB in practice so they will be ready for Pryor.
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Really don't see how this matters... Oregon doesn't have a player capable of replicating Pryor's size/speed, let alone his strength from under center. Not to mention its not like you tackle the QB in practice.

The only team to run the ball down Oregons throat all day was Standford and their QB was having his best game of the year. Plus their running back was a Heisman candidate and is a monster of a running back. But in the end the final score was 44-20 with Oregon beating USC.
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... and Ohio State is ranked 19th in rush offense with Stanford at #11.
 
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KingLeon;1626591; said:
Uh, apparently someone doesn't know the definition of "objective" because no one on this site is objective. Everyone's biases that come out especially when it comes to sports.
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You need to check posts by osugrad21, BB73, myself, and others. While we love Ohio State football, we also know (or like to think we know) what and where our strengths and weaknesses are, and base our posts on that...you know, being "objective". We also respond to posts like the one by goducks09 on a point-by-point basis, addressing each of their comments/claims, rather than with a juvenile "you suck".
 
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Sportsbuck28;1626603; said:
Oh really? Because I'm pretty sure they averaged nearly 5 yards per carry en route to 140 yards on the ground. And no team has ran the ball against Oregon? Stanford ran for 254 yards... Boise for 164, Washington for 129, Washington State for 107, Utah for 119, Purdue for 170, and Arizona for 127.


Go ahead, we hope you decide to play the run and stack the box. For one, because we've ran for over 200 yards against much better defenses that stacked 8 in the box all game, and not only that but Pryor beat them deep for a TD.


Really don't see how this matters... Oregon doesn't have a player capable of replicating Pryor's size/speed, let alone his strength from under center. Not to mention its not like you tackle the QB in practice.


... and Ohio State is ranked 19th in rush offense with Stanford at #11.
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You make some valid points, but I guess stats are really moot point except for head to head, since we play different teams all year.
 
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goducks09;1626631; said:
You make some valid points, but I guess stats are really moot point except for head to head, since we play different teams all year.
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Actually, the correct response is "yes, but on the season we had the 25th best YPC-against in all of CFB". Oregon's rush D is statistically very respectable. Similarly, Oregon had the 13th best passing YPA-against in all of CFB. Their defensive issues appear to be more about the pace the offense sets (opponents get massive TOP - averaging 34 minutes per game, which is 115th in CFB). They don't give up lots of first downs (30th in CFB with ~17 / game) and they don't allow an inordinate number of third down conversions (~36%). They don't give up a lot of yardage, either (~330 ypg, 33rd in CFB). They're middling on turnover margin (+0.25/g, 47th in CFB). They're bad with penalties (~63 ypg, 97th in CFB).

In short, a good but not dominant defense. They're not particularly awful in any respect of the game, though they do give up a lot of yardage to penalties.

On the other hand, our offense isn't exactly fabulous. The way this game remains interesting is if Oregon can't hit the big play and is forced to make long drives. That plays into tOSU's hand, and could turn this game into a classic.
 
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TheIronColonel;1626666; said:
The way this game remains interesting is if Oregon can't hit the big play and is forced to make long drives. That plays into tOSU's hand, and could turn this game into a classic.
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If we can force UO's offense into a bunch of 3-and-outs early, game's over because their defense will be worn down by halftime...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1626668; said:
If we can force UO's offense into a bunch of 3-and-outs early, game's over because their defense will be worn down by halftime...
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One thing people tend to forget is that our D-Line WEARS OUT offenses...

...if Oregon isn't up by a touchdown at halftime, we win. They haven't truly shut down an offense all year. Our defense has shut down just about every offense we've seen.

And also,

You suck.
 
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TheRob8801;1626686; said:
One thing people tend to forget is that our D-Line WEARS OUT offenses...

...if Oregon isn't up by a touchdown at halftime, we win. They haven't truly shut down an offense all year. Our defense has shut down just about every offense we've seen.

And also,

You suck.
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For the most part we don't have to shut them down, because we out score them. Thats why I think OSU will have trouble in keeping up with Oregon if it's a track meet.
 
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