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2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

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brutus2002;1398119; said:
Mingo to LSU...another one bites the dust for Michigan.

I don't care how many offensive players they get I want them to get burnt on defense.
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So much for him being a Vol lean....

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brutus2002;1397907; said:
They are starting to find out recruiting florida and the deep south is not easy. They are in meltdown mode. They have the 20th ranked class according to scout and could be worse especially if they have decommits. I don't take rankings that seriously but IMO this is telling of this years recruiting for Michigan. 2010 could be another rough year for them.
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Well Rivals has them as 7th. With Washington jumping on board now they will move up. If Michigan can get Stokes and Robinson and keep one of the dts (Jones and Graves) it will be a solid day.
 
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Here is a quick comparison on how OSU and UM have approached recruiting this season.

Per Scout:

OSU offered three RBs
We landed our top two prospects

UM offered 9 RBs
They landed 7, 8 and 9
(we got their 2nd and 5th)

OSU also offered two FBs and got them both.
UM did not offer any FBs

OSU offered 7 WRs
We landed 2, 6 and 7 with #1 still on the board.

UM offered 19 WRs
They landed 10 and 14 with Stokes (their #4) still on the board
We got their #8

OSU offered 4 OTs
We landed 2, 3 and 4

UM offered 10 OTs
They landed 5 and 6
We got their #1

OSU offered 2 safeties
We got #1.
#2 was Emilien. We can debate what happened there.

UM offered 12 Safeties
They landed 6, 8, 9 and 12

OSU offered 8 CBs
We landed 3, 5, 7 and 8
UM beat us out for our #1

UM offered 11 CBs
Turner is all they have so far.

At the three LB positions OSU extended 6 offers and got 4 commits.

UM made 8 offers and is sitting on one commit - their #3 offer at WLB.

OSU has landed 4 of their 9 DL offers.

UM has gotten 5 of 16 DL and two of those are listed as "soft verbals"

It is like this at almost every position. OSUs offer list is short, focused and successful. UMs list is long and wanting in commits.

Also consider that our depth chart is crowded. UM has tons of PT to offer and had an extra month to recruit while they were sitting out the bowl game.

We landed players early in the process and have been virtually devoid of decommits. UMs efforts to retain committed players have been almost laughable.

UM has 11 commits from players rated #42 or below at their position. OSU has 6 such players - in the past TWO classes combined.


Spin that Beaver.
 
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Oh8ch;1398144; said:
Here is a quick comparison on how OSU and UM have approached recruiting this season.

Per Scout:

OSU offered three RBs
We landed our top two prospects

UM offered 9 RBs
They landed 7, 8 and 9
(we got their 2nd and 5th)

OSU also offered two FBs and got them both.
UM did not offer any FBs

OSU offered 7 WRs
We landed 2, 6 and 7 with #1 still on the board.

UM offered 19 WRs
They landed 10 and 14 with Stokes (their #4) still on the board
We got their #8

OSU offered 4 OTs
We landed 2, 3 and 4

UM offered 10 OTs
They landed 5 and 6
We got their #1

OSU offered 2 safeties
We got #1.
#2 was Emilien. We can debate what happened there.

UM offered 12 Safeties
They landed 6, 8, 9 and 12

OSU offered 8 CBs
We landed 3, 5, 7 and 8
UM beat us out for our #1

UM offered 11 CBs
Turner is all they have so far.

At the three LB positions OSU extended 6 offers and got 4 commits.

UM made 8 offers and is sitting on one commit - their #3 offer at WLB.

OSU has landed 4 of their 9 DL offers.

UM has gotten 5 of 16 DL and two of those are listed as "soft verbals"

It is like this at almost every position. OSUs offer list is short, focused and successful. UMs list is long and wanting in commits.

Also consider that our depth chart is crowded. UM has tons of PT to offer and had an extra month to recruit while they were sitting out the bowl game.

We landed players early in the process and have been virtually devoid of decommits. UMs efforts to retain committed players have been almost laughable.

UM has 11 commits from players rated #42 or below at their position. OSU has 6 such players - in the past TWO classes combined.


Spin that Beaver.
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OSU has pretty much out recruited everybody this year except "maybe" LSU. OSU usually gets better classes than UM anyways.
 
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leroyjenkins;1398153; said:
Do they normally out-recruit UM to this extent??
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According to several of buckeye fans.....yeah. Michigan doesn't get many good players. Then again Braylon Edwards and Mike Hart were 3 stars. They sure sucked it up in the Wolverine uniform.
 
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zwem;1398150; said:
OSU usually gets better classes than UM anyways.
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Not according to Allen Wallace of SuperPrep:

Michigan stands out as a school that always recruits well. From the mid-1990's, the Wolverines have signed only one class not ranked in the top 10 by SuperPrep magazine. That was in 2000, when Lloyd Carr signed a No. 13 group. Notwithstanding that class, since 1995 the folks in Ann Arbor have reeled in signing efforts ranked exactly at 6.6 according to SuperPrep. For consistency and downright excellence, that's really tough to beat. In fact, nobody beats it.
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Ohio State's average class ranks 10.4 on the SuperPrep scale.

But hey, for "consistency and downright excellence", no one beats Michigan.... :roll2:
 
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Michigan may be rated 7th by Rivals right now but what happens tommorow when 7-8 schools behind them blow right by them. Michigan will be around 15th-16th by rivals and if they have any decommits tommorow they could end up out of the top 20 on scout.

Rivals absolutely sucks ass. If anybody wastes their time listening to those douchebags they have serious problems...them, Lemming, and ESPN are contending for the lousiest recruiting analyst of all-time.

Look at rivals bust's and boom's of 2005. Their top 150 was at least 60% wrong. That list was 75% Southeast, Texas, and Cali. Thats why their lists are so far off. They have a heavy southern bias.

If Michigan fans think their recruiting class was a success they need to look at our commit list and see how its done. The best player I seen in the three AA games for Michigan was Roh. He is gonna be a great player someday for Michigan.

OSU is smoking out of the gate for 2010. After tommorow we will have commits from 3 top 100 players for 2010. OSU is building something special while Michigan sold their sould ny hiring RR.
 
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