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2009 Rivals/Scout/etc. National & Regional Rankings

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Muck;1205426; said:
Agreed.

It's just that Linsley is a monster now. He's the brawler inside that will mess people up. If it came down to which one I would want in front of me right now it'd be Linsley.
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I would take Mewhort. I think he can play all positions on the line besides LT. I also think he has more upside.
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;1205728; said:
I would take Mewhort. I think he can play all positions on the line besides LT. I also think he has more upside.
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I agree with both points. I'd still take Linsley.

I want the guy who has that mean streak and wants to leave opponents curled up in tears. Linsley's that guy.

Similarly Alex Boone has far more upside than Bentley. I'd take LeChuck every day and twice on on Sunday.

Of course I'm even happier that we don't have to choose between them. :)
 
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Updated the consensus Top 100 to include the O-D rankings:

1 Matt Barkley QB 6'3” 226 USC
2 Devon Kennard DE 6'3” 257
3 Manti Te'o LB 6'2” 230
4 Jamarkus McFarland DT 6'3” 280
5 Russell Shepard QB 6'1” 179 LSU
6 Bryce Brown RB 6'0” 215 Miami
7 Reuben Randle WR 6'3” 195
8 Jaccobi McDaniel DT 6'0” 267 FSU
9 Garrett Gilbert QB 6'3” 186 Texas
10 Dorian Bell LB 6'0” 226 Ohio State
11 Craig Loston S 6'2” 193 Clemson
12 Cierre Wood RB 6'0” 192 Notre Dame
13 William Campbell DT 6'5” 317 TSUN
14 Chris Davenport DT 6'4” 318
15 Dre Kirkpatrick CB 6'2” 180
16 Marlon Brown WR 6'5” 205
17 Xavier Nixon OL 6'6” 263
18 Vontaze Burfict LB 6'2” 244 USC
19 Logan Heastie WR 6'2” 225 WVU
20 D.J. Fluker DT 6'7” 325 Alabama
21 Randall Carroll WR 5'10” 175 USC
22 Darius Winston CB 6'0” 180
23 Jelani Jenkins LB 6'1” 212
24 Lamar Miller RB 5'11” 205
25 Mason Walters OL 6'6” 290 Texas
26 Gabe Lynn CB 6'0” 185
27 Johnny Simon DL 6'3” 274 Ohio State
28 Patrick Hall Ath 6'1” 181 USC
29 Aaron Murray QB 6'0” 198 Georgia
30 Jarvis Jones LB 6'3” 205
31 Nico Johnson LB 6'3” 226
32 Tana Patrick LB 6'3” 215
33 Donte Moss DE 6'4” 235 North Carolina
34 Devonte Holloman S 6'2” 214 Clemson
35 Shaquelle Evans WR 6'0” 203
36 Jaamal Berry RB 5'10” 185
37 Craig Drummond DE 6'5” 260
38 Alex Okafor DE 6'4” 232 Texas
39 Corey Adams DT 6'3” 277
40 Chris Whaley RB 6'3” 220 Texas
41 Dexter Pratt RB 6'2” 227 LSU
42 Melvin Fellows DE 6'5” 245 Ohio State
43 David Oku RB 5'10” 186
44 Andre Debose WR 6'0” 170
45 Je'Ron Stokes WR 6'1” 178 Tennessee
46 Kevin Newsome QB 6'3” 217 TSUN (Soft)
47 Tom Savage QB 6'4” 217 Rutgers
48 Willie Downs WR 6'2” 192 FSU
49 Morgan Moses OL 6'7” 347
50 Logan Thomas Ath 6'6” 233
51 Eric Shrive OL 6'7” 285 Penn State
52 Trent Richardson RB 5'11” 210 Alabama
53 Sam Montgomery DE 6'4” 230
54 Michael Ford RB 5'10” 200 LSU
55 John Martinez OG 6'4” 265
56 Eddie Lacy RB 6'3” 250
57 Cliff Harris CB 6'0” 165
58 Marcus Hall OL 6'5” 290
59 Kevin Brent S 5'11” 196
60 Justin Chaisson DE 6'5” 265 Oklahoma
61 Kevin Graf OT 6'6” 301 USC
62 Jheranie Boyd WR 6'2” 184
63 Malliciah Goodman DE 6'4” 255 Clemson
64 C.J. Mizell LB 6'2” 212 FSU
65 Michael Philipp OT 6'3” 320
66 Nick Kasa DE 6'7” 245
67 Tyrik Rollison QB 6'2” 185
68 Jamie Wood DB 6'2” 190 Ohio State
69 Nick Alajajian OL 6'4” 280 Florida
70 Ray Ray Armstrong Ath 6'4” 218
71 Kendall Kelly WR 6'4” 210
72 Branden Smith CB 5'11” 171
73 Abry Jones DT 6'3” 250 Georgia
74 Ryne Giddins DE 6'4” 235
75 Fletcher Cox DE 6'4” 240 Mississippi St.
76 Damario Jeffery Ath 6'3” 215
77 Frankie Telfort LB 5'11” 197
78 Chris Watt OL 6'3” 280
79 Ronnie Wingo Jr. Ath 6'3” 212
80 Patrick Patterson WR 6'3” 215
81 Morgan Newton QB 6'4” 205
82 Ryan Mossakowski QB 6'4” 201
83 Brandon McGee CB 5'11” 186
84 Rolando Jefferson WR 6'2” 190
85 Chris Bonds DT 6'4” 262
86 Cody Green QB 6'4” 220
87 De'Von Flournoy WR 6'2” 180 USC
88 Rodney Smith WR 6'4” 201
89 Morrell Presley TE 6'4” 215 USC
90 Justin “J.T.” Turner DB 6'2” 186 TSUN
91 Edwin Baker RB 5'10” 204 MSU
92 Josh Boyd DT 6'3” 275
93 T.J. McDonald S 6'2” 182 USC
94 Sheldon Richardson OL 6'4” 281 Missouri
95 Donovan Tate Ath 6'2” 195
96 Jawanza Starling S 6'2” 190
97 Adam Morgan QB 5'11” 180
98 Marquis Simmons LB 6'2” 215 USC
99 Montez Robinson DE 6'4” 230
100 Joshua Adams WR 6'4” 200 North Carolina

---Of interest: Adam Morgan the QB who slipped into the Top 100 at #97 was not on any Top 100 list prior to this. O-D has him listed at #5 overall!

Buckeye moves:
Dorian Bell +3
Johnny Simon +10
Melvin Fellows -10
Jamie Wood -6

---BTW anyone notice that Athlon's consensus list has 8 Buckeye in the Top 100? (Barnett, Whiting, Brown & Fields all slipped in a well as the four listed above)

Meanwhile USC has 8 players on my list but only 6 on Athlon's. :biggrin:
 
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Linsley has some nasty to his game...but Mewhort has just as much. As Bill Greene said, the kid plays with the same intensity from the opening snap until the final whistle, something that is not always easy over the course of 4 hours for a big man.

What I like about Linsley is his athleticism for his size. Both of these guys can fire off the ball, but Linsley seems to love getting to the second level. As multiple services have said, this kid can demonstrate the reach block to near perfection.
 
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Muck;1205419; said:
Mewhort over Linsley based on upper ceiling?
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Yep and I just really like Mewhort. His film blew me away and his frame is spectacular. I feel he is already a solid player with good technique, but still has a lot of room to grow. He could get some serious PT quick imo. I also really like Linsley...he moves really well, is meaner than crap, and is a good sized boy. Honestly, I am stoked about this OL class, especially when we add Hall.

Btw CB40, Burfict is the #3 player, followed by Patrick Hall, who is amazing as well. I think NC is only behind CA in terms of top notch talent. I agree with you 100% on Wood...I think he is a great player, but I had 5 players ahead of him in Simon, Fellows, Barnett, Hall, and Klein. Wood showed up to all of the Rivals events and he showed well, which helped his cause a lot. I believe Simon, Fellows, Barnett, and Klein didn't show up to their combines, which really hurt them. I honestly think if Simon came, he would be a 5 star, being the physical freak he is. Fellows possibly as well. As far as Klein, he didn't show up to combines but mostly, he isn't a combine warrior anyways imo. He is a player that is amazing on film and is always going to show up on Friday nights with big plays. He will probably stay in the 150-200 range and absolutely blow up at OSU. Whiting and Bell get alot of the hoopla, deservingly so, but I personally think Klein could end up being the best on the field, though I'm VERY high on Bell.
 
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wadc45;1205772; said:
Linsley has some nasty to his game...but Mewhort has just as much. As Bill Greene said, the kid plays with the same intensity from the opening snap until the final whistle, something that is not always easy over the course of 4 hours for a big man.

What I like about Linsley is his athleticism for his size. Both of these guys can fire off the ball, but Linsley seems to love getting to the second level. As multiple services have said, this kid can demonstrate the reach block to near perfection.
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He proved that at the combines too. He never took plays off and was always getting as many reps as he could. He is a competitor and is nasty like you said. Throw that on top of his impressive frame, good athleticism, and versatility (I think he could play anywhere on the OL), and you have to love Mewhort.
 
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RB07OSU;1206228; said:
Yep and I just really like Mewhort. His film blew me away and his frame is spectacular. I feel he is already a solid player with good technique, but still has a lot of room to grow. He could get some serious PT quick imo. I also really like Linsley...he moves really well, is meaner than crap, and is a good sized boy. Honestly, I am stoked about this OL class, especially when we add Hall.

Btw CB40, Burfict is the #3 player, followed by Patrick Hall, who is amazing as well. I think NC is only behind CA in terms of top notch talent. I agree with you 100% on Wood...I think he is a great player, but I had 5 players ahead of him in Simon, Fellows, Barnett, Hall, and Klein. Wood showed up to all of the Rivals events and he showed well, which helped his cause a lot. I believe Simon, Fellows, Barnett, and Klein didn't show up to their combines, which really hurt them. I honestly think if Simon came, he would be a 5 star, being the physical freak he is. Fellows possibly as well. As far as Klein, he didn't show up to combines but mostly, he isn't a combine warrior anyways imo. He is a player that is amazing on film and is always going to show up on Friday nights with big plays. He will probably stay in the 150-200 range and absolutely blow up at OSU. Whiting and Bell get alot of the hoopla, deservingly so, but I personally think Klein could end up being the best on the field, though I'm VERY high on Bell.
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I agree with all you said...I forgot about Burfict...He is a stud...So yeah top 3 probably goes to Cali, but NC at the top 3 is a very special top 3...


BTW I will have my top 100 up soon...
 
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Muck;1206423; said:
Hmm would there be any interest in creating a BP consensus Top 100?
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Yes...the recruiting season is wrapping up so quickly, I am going to have some time to kill and it's going to be on BP :biggrin: I am going to start watching more film of the top 100-250 guys.
 
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Rivals.com Prospect Rankings

State of Florida rankings. of note:

4. Jamaal Berry
9. Frankie Telfort
10. Orson Charles
18. Brandon Mcgee
42. Trabis Ward
53. Carlos Hyde
56. Vlad Emilien
93. Quan Fletcher
95. Duron Carter

By the by, I don't care if it is the banner year of all time in California, there is no way that Cali has as many rivals 5* prospects as Texas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, and PA combined. Cali has as many 5* prospects as the entire midwest and southest combined.

Give me a break.
 
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Hmm...McGee got ripped off. I've seen the film on many of the guys ahead of him and I'm shaking my head. I don't know why Richardson is rated ahead of Berry...he is a good player, but nearly as explosive as Berry imo. Btw Tsteele, I agree with that to some extent. I think Barkley, Wood, Burfict, and Hall are all 5 stars though. Evans and Carroll...no. I question whether Carroll is even top 100 material and I see Evans in the 80-90 range. Jehranie Boyd deserves Carroll's spot imo.
 
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