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jwinslow;1282936; said:
Collado rewards his coaches' faith in himNewspapers can be as reliable as tabloids when it comes to recruiting, but the thing is, there are rumblings of this elsewhere as well.
Minny doesn't exactly have a tough schedule from here on out. They don't have State Penn on their schedule. They play Illinois this weekend and Wisconsin on November 15th. Aside from that, Northwestern, Iowa, Purdue, and Michigan also seem like very winnable games. I'd say that a 9-3 or an 8-4 Minny team that lands a win against the scUMmers gets McNeal.
 
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HailToMichigan;1283030; said:
So we just have to kick the crap out of Minny then?
No, you have to start beating teams with your passing game, imo. Minny is just one vulture circling.
daveeb;1283039; said:
Minny doesn't exactly have a tough schedule from here on out. They don't have State Penn on their schedule. They play Illinois this weekend and Wisconsin on November 15th. Aside from that, Northwestern, Iowa, Purdue, and Michigan also seem like very winnable games. I'd say that a 9-3 or an 8-4 Minny team that lands a win against the scUMmers gets McNeal.
Not to mention their offense has been impressive, given the talent Brewster is working with, playing at home with Adam Weber has to be attractive.
 
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jwinslow;1283040; said:
No, you have to start beating teams with your passing game, imo. Minny is just one vulture circling.
Yeah, but say Minny goes 8-4 with a loss to 5-7 Michigan (as well as, I dunno, Wiscy and Illinois.) Does that really exude confidence that Minny can consistently beat anyone but the worst teams? Because...

Minny doesn't exactly have a tough schedule from here on out.
It's much tougher than the schedule they've already played. OK, so we established that IU is probably the worst Big Ten team. FAU, Montana State, Northern Illinois - are these really the powerhouses you want to judge a team by?

I can't look at one game on your schedule right now and comfortably say "That's a win".
Toledo. We will not lose to Toledo - take it to the bank. (Preferably not WaMu.)
 
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HailToMichigan;1283332; said:
Toledo. We will not lose to Toledo - take it to the bank. (Preferably not WaMu.)
Heh. Normally I'd agree, but I've seen them play enough really bad football to feel, deep down, that Toledo does indeed have a shot. Not saying that they will win, but that there is a very real chance.
 
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Yeah, but say Minny goes 8-4 with a loss to 5-7 Michigan (as well as, I dunno, Wiscy and Illinois.) Does that really exude confidence that Minny can consistently beat anyone but the worst teams? Because...


It's much tougher than the schedule they've already played. OK, so we established that IU is probably the worst Big Ten team. FAU, Montana State, Northern Illinois - are these really the powerhouses you want to judge a team by?


Toledo. We will not lose to Toledo - take it to the bank. (Preferably not WaMu.)
Is it about records, or about a consistent passing game? To be honest, I don't know how Michigan can sign a single WR, let alone the 92 they've signed since Dick Rod has been there. That's not an offense for a WR to show his stuff...and I can say that with a little more confidence now that we've established he doesn't really change his offense to adapt to his players.
 
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Not so sure I'd call Minnesota's offense "impressive". They scored six points through three quarters against us, and managed only 16 points at home against Indiana...they're ranked 61st nationally at less than 370 ypg. It would probably take more than that to impress Bryce McNeal enough to make him switch commitments.
 
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I overstated it a bit, but minny still moved the ball fairly well on osu given the talent disparity.

Either way, this is about Michigan, not minnesota, for Bryce.

Until they show that the split ends will be used in this offense consistently, Bryce will remain a bit unsure about attending Michigan.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1283365; said:
Is it about records, or about a consistent passing game? To be honest, I don't know how Michigan can sign a single WR, let alone the 92 they've signed since Dick Rod has been there. That's not an offense for a WR to show his stuff...and I can say that with a little more confidence now that we've established he doesn't really change his offense to adapt to his players.
First, I still don't agree at all that RR won't change his offense for the players. The run/pass ratio continues to be very different from last year at WVU.

Second, Martavious Odoms had 7 catches for 129 yards, and Greg Mathews had 4 for 73 and a touchdown against Illinois. You don't think a WR can show his stuff? If McNeal is wavering, it might be because he feels squeezed out a bit with Odoms and Stonum being two of the top three as freshmen and now two top WR commits for '10. Even at Texas Tech there aren't that many catches to go around.
 
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If you think a WR is utilized in DR's offense, then fine. I haven't seen it yet.

The WVU fans would tout their WR numbers when DR was there. When you actually looked at the plays, you saw 20 yard "passes" that were thrown for 0 yards and run for 20. I'm sure DR has called a couple more pass plays down field than he did at WVU......but not much more.
 
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First, I still don't agree at all that RR won't change his offense for the players.
He didn't change it to a passing spread, at all. It's the same read option attack, which simply involves more downfield passing.
If McNeal is wavering, it might be because he feels squeezed out a bit with Odoms and Stonum being two of the top three as freshmen and now two top WR commits for '10.
He may be scared by Stonum at Michigan, but because he doesn't see the ball. How else would he possibly be scared off by him?

The other two don't sign LOIs for two years. I'm guessing he doesn't lose tons of sleep over them.
Even at Texas Tech there aren't that many catches to go around.
Their 8th WR has twice as many catches as Stonum, your 4th WR. One of those top 3 is McGuffie, who has caught a ton of screens.
 
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jwinslow;1283595; said:
He didn't change it to a passing spread, at all. It's the same read option attack, which simply involves more downfield passing.He may be scared by Stonum at Michigan, but because he doesn't see the ball. How else would he possibly be scared off by him?

The other two don't sign LOIs for two years. I'm guessing he doesn't lose tons of sleep over them.
Their 8th WR has twice as many catches as Stonum, your 4th WR. One of those top 3 is McGuffie, who has caught a ton of screens.

Good post JWINS,

No matter how you slice it, and I don't think can be overstated, Rich Rod's offense is NOT conducive to producing NFL players.

His Rimington Award winning center wasn't even drafted. His game, under the right circumstances, is excellent at a collegiate level. But it will never produce tons of NFL players, and top High School players aren't going to college to play for 4 years and then give the game up. Every high school kid has NFL aspirations.

I agree, Rodriguez will produce more NFL players at a big-time school like Michigan....hell, he'll have more players drafted THIS YEAR, than his entire coaching career....but in the end, he is going to be stuck with system players. He'll be an 8-9 maybe 10 wins a year coach consistently at UM, but he won't ever recruit big time players that have NFL aspirations.

Is it shocking they have about 13 slot receivers with the same abilities? It's a system position.

Do you think Braylon Edwards would have attended UM under Rodriguez? How would that develop him?
 
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