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2008 tOSU QB discussion (official thread)

OSUBuckeye4Life;1181287; said:
NCAA Football: Todd Boeckman & Matthew Stafford; Premier Pro Style QB's | Bleacher Report

NCAA Football: Todd Boeckman & Matthew Stafford; Premier Pro Style QB's

by Michael Felder (Analyst)
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June 10, 2008

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With the proliferation of the various forms of the spread offense the pro styled (past tense?) passers' prevalence has decreased dramatically in the last five years.
The increase in influence of duel (they are going to have a duel?) threat, spread option, and the shotgun spread systems have only served to make the drop back, pro style passer an endangered species in college football.
Of the Athlon Preseason Top 25, only eight schools (Ohio St, USC, UGA, Wisc, ASU, Tenn, VaTech and Rutgers) run legitimate pro styled offenses. With Terrelle Pryor poised to take the OSU reins as a duel threat in 2009, it would appear another pro scheme will temporarily bite the dust.
Todd Boeckman, Matthew Stafford, and Mark Sanchez headline this year's crop of pro styled passers in college football. Each of them holds a BCS title within reach.
Sanchez is the least experienced of the group, and although USC OC Steve Sarkisian has been quoted as saying:
"I?m anxious to watch Mark become the guy...I?m anxious to see him to do that because he?s very, very talented."
Sanchez is not yet on the level of Boeckman and Stafford, the two elite talents heading into the 2008 season. The two players are night and day in their on-field persona and the contrast is what truly makes choosing between the two difficult.

Todd Boeckman (6'5", 243 lbs)
In his first year as a starter, Boeckman was faced with the challenge of replacing a Heisman trophy winner who led the Buckeyes to a BCS title game appearance. He not only accepted the challenge but outperformed all the expectations that were heaped upon him.
Throwing for 2379 yards, 25 TDs, and a passer rating of 148.95 will get you into the good graces of Columbus quite quickly.
As the 2008 season approaches the expectations have increased for the senior, and Boeckman appears ready to face the challenges.
He returns his leading receivers, Hartline and Robiskie, as well as his leading rusher in Chris "Beanie" Wells as the Buckeyes look poised to make the leap from pretender to contender.
Fundamentally, Boeckman is as solid as they come. He has quality footwork in his drop backs while his release and arm angle are text book form.
In running the pro styled offense under Tressell, Todd Boeckman has proven himself to be not only an extremely efficient passer, completing almost 64 percent of his passes, but also a calm, even tempered quarterback.
Although Boeckman can make all the throws required of him, the senior appears to be the most comfortable in play action sets. He carries out fakes well, gets good depth after the fake, and is able to quickly diagnose the coverage situation and deliver the football accurately.
For all that Boeckman does correctly there is a serious glaring flaw within his game that could cause problems in Columbus this season.
It is his inability to truly win a game. Although Boeckman will never lose the game for you he will also never win the game. He's a role player, albeit a significant one, in Jim Tressell's system.
Tressell's inability to rely on his quarterback reared it's head first in the loss to Illinois as Boeckman struggled to the tune of three interceptions and an 87.41 QB rating.
Then the following week in the Michigan game after a first half consisting of an interception and two fumbles, Tressell limited Boeckman to two pass attempts in the second half and rode Beanie Wells for 39 carries.
Boeckman has to prove he can be a quarterback who wins games, not a guy who has to get out of his team's way for them to be successful. This season Boeckman has some added pressure to succeed with Terrelle Pryor waiting on the Buckeye sidelines.

If you are going to post Bleacher Report articles, I'm going to quit reading BuckeyePlanet. This is bad, bad, bad.

I could sign up for Bleacher Report and write whatever I wanted about whoever I wanted.
 
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f you are going to post Bleacher Report articles, I'm going to quit reading BuckeyePlanet.
Disproportionate overreaction aside, the door is always open.
This is bad, bad, bad.
Care to point out the flaws of the article rather than make a threat of a tearful goodbye?
I could sign up for Bleacher Report and write whatever I wanted about whoever I wanted.
Michael Felder could sign up for Buckeye Planet and post the same thing. I wouldn't quit BP because of it :lol:
 
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generaladm;1180725; said:
Do Ohio proud Todd! We're all behind you!

todd's already done ohio proud and anyone who isn't behind him isn't a tOSU fan. but that doesn't mean i can't be open and honest about what i perceive to be his strengths, weaknesses and evaluate his performances/progress.

while i do realize im pretty harsh in my grading. if you go back and do some reading you'll find i was just as hard on ts his first half year as starter.

Taosman;1181627; said:
Face it. If anyone other than Boeckman is starting, we are in trouble.

pretty much dead on.
 
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Poe McKnoe;1181726; said:
If you are going to post Bleacher Report articles, I'm going to quit reading BuckeyePlanet. This is bad, bad, bad.

I could sign up for Bleacher Report and write whatever I wanted about whoever I wanted.


Uhhh. What in gods name are you trying to say here? Should we not post articles in relation to our team/players/school/fans for other READERS to READ?

If you don't want to read the article then scim on down the fucking page or go play asshat over on another board. I think we at BP will get along just fine without you.

If I misunderstood your post I will apologize now but the way it comes off is you are bashing the person who posted that article here saying if you wanted to read it you would have gone to that site to do so.

I for one am grateful and thankful that OSUB4L posted the article because I enjoyed the read about TB(though I dont get the pretender/contender part...apparently you're not a contender unless you WIN the NC).
 
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OSUBuckeye4Life;1181287; said:
Although Boeckman will never lose the game for you he will also never win the game...
Boeckman has to prove he can be a quarterback who wins games, not a guy who has to get out of his team's way for them to be successful.

MililaniBuckeye;1181340; said:
Exactly what I've been saying...you don't know had badly I want Todd to prove me wrong this season.
I understand the sentiment here, but Felder's comments are an exaggeration, in my mind. If Boeckman had just gotten out of the way (made no mistakes, but also no big plays), I'm not sure OSU wins at Washington last year.
 
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zincfinger;1181852; said:
I understand the sentiment here, but Felder's comments are an exaggeration, in my mind. If Boeckman had just gotten out of the way (made no mistakes, but also no big plays), I'm not sure OSU wins at Washington last year.

People have selective memory about Boeckman. They forget how ugly that game was.
 
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The backup quarterback is the most favorite player on the team."

Statistical analysis has consistently shown that backup players who do not get in the game would have out performed the starters if they had been given the opportunity.

(You can find the entire study over on MoveOn.org)
 
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