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buckeyes_rock
Great day to be a Buckeye
Bucklion;1321080; said:
I wonder how much it might hurt the Tx Tech guys in the voting having both of them in the running?
I personally think this race is now Harrell's to lose.
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buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
buckeyes_rock;1321107; said:
I agree. But I think everything changes if TT loses in Norman.
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Weekly update from Gene Menez at SI.
I agree with his opinions that Crabtree should be a finalist, and that the top-3 Big 12 QBs have a sizable lead over Tebow. But I think Harrell is the clear front-runer right now, and it TTech wins the Big 12 Championship Game as an undefeated team, he should win in a landslide.
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I agree with his opinions that Crabtree should be a finalist, and that the top-3 Big 12 QBs have a sizable lead over Tebow. But I think Harrell is the clear front-runer right now, and it TTech wins the Big 12 Championship Game as an undefeated team, he should win in a landslide.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
Brock Huard:! who did the color analysis on the Ball State/Miami game said that he had Bradford and McCloy ahead of Harrell. He did not even mention Crabtree. I would think that Crabtree should be replaced by a lesser WR and Harrell would still put up pretty good numbers. I really don't see anybody else but him.
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onebuckfan2
Rookie
Heisman
my top 5
1. Graham Harrell
2. Sam Bradford
3. Michael Crabtree
4. Shonn Greene
5. Colt McCoy
and still Archie will be the only 2 time heisman winner!
:osu: TP for Heisman 2009!
my top 5
1. Graham Harrell
2. Sam Bradford
3. Michael Crabtree
4. Shonn Greene
5. Colt McCoy
and still Archie will be the only 2 time heisman winner!
:osu: TP for Heisman 2009!
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buckeyes_rock
Great day to be a Buckeye
So I found it funny that Timmy Tebow told the CBS guys before the game that he would love a shot at one of the Big 12 defenses. Careful what you wish for bud.
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NFBuck;1349058; said:
Wrong. If he wins the Heisman again, it's only because he was left in games late (like last year) to roll up stats. If he was so fucking good, why did he lose at home to a shit Mississippi team? At least Bradford lost to a great Texas team at a neutral site and McCoy lost on the road to an explosive Texas Tech team.
Bradford, McCoy, and Harrell have been steady all year long. Bradford has 20 more passing TDs, a markedly better completion percentage, more yards per attempt, and a passing rating almost nine points higher.
Don't get me wrong...Tebow is an outstanding player. But, I just get tired of the fucking non-stop media fellatio-fest.
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How many points are b12 defenses worth?
How often has Bradford even been tested this year? I don't mean asked to put up monster numbers, I mean rattled, pressured, facing adversity. Life is extremely cushy for Bradford, sitting back there for 4-6 seconds, dumping off a dozen passes in the flats to matchup nightmares, throwing into woeful coverage units.
Bradford would be dead last on my heisman ballot. I would invite a half-dozen other players before him.
Colt has had to improvise and relocate frequently enough and showed a lot more toughness and moxy, imo. Harrell is working with inferior parts to the other 4, but his OU outing ended his chances. Good enough for an invite, but no serious consideration.
Absolutely. Danielson went from the best announcer in CFB to the least credible.
But despite the lovefest, he's still a heisman caliber player.
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VegasBuckeye
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MililaniBuckeye;1349052; said:
Wow...So much hate for a leader, being a leader. He is not one of those emotionless big eyed deer in a headlights types I have seen here and there during big games....
If it was a Buckeye doing the same thing as Tebow we would be be talking about what a great leader he was.
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Who you got?
I still think it's between Bradford and McCoy, but Tebow got an awful lotta love yesterday.
I think Harrell might get a trip to NY, but finish a distant 4th.
I still think it's between Bradford and McCoy, but Tebow got an awful lotta love yesterday.
I think Harrell might get a trip to NY, but finish a distant 4th.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
I like McCoy. Unreal completion percentage. Leading rusher. Lots of TDs.
Plus, it may help the Bucks if he wins. Heisman Bowl Curse.
Plus, it may help the Bucks if he wins. Heisman Bowl Curse.
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xcrunner
Hall of Fame
Agreed on most points, except for a fewjwinslow;1349599; said:
1) Agreed on the B12 defenses.. But what defenses has Tebow played? Better than the B12's, but... Georgia's? LSU's? Florida State's is probably the best they've played, but you have to assume FSU's defensive stats have been inflated, playing against ACC offenses.
2) Danielson went from the best announcer in CFB to the least credible? Honest question: How much have you watched him? I've watched him for a few Georgia games and he drools over Stafford at least as much as he drooled over Tebow tonight. I was literally surprise that he was all over Tebow; I was convinced that no QB could get close to matching Stafford's overall amaznigness at being utterly amazing, O amazing QB of amazing... Danielson has been the least credible for a long, long time
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