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2007 TSUN News

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HailToMichigan;1213890; said:
No kidding. Too bad Tiller didn't realize that before he spouted off.
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Maybe Joe wasn't mad at RR for recruiting one of his commits (which I think everyone will agree is relatively commonplace) but rather "selling somebody something of little or no value" which is what it means to be a snake oil salesman. He didn't call him a thief

Maybe RR was selling a WR recruit (Roundtree) of the TSUN WR legacy and how many receivers they send to NFL compared to Purdue...when in reality a receiver in the RR offense is underutilized.
 
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$cout - Forcier down to 6 with no leader (WSU, UF, PSU, Oreg, UM, ASU). Mention he was offered before Newsome/Beaver and still being pursued by UM. Doesn't think that both would stay committed if he verballed there.

Tate, I think you were supposed to keep that quiet

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Newsome's switch from Western Branch to Hargrave, though, might not be his last move. Former Bruins coach Lew Johnston, a close family friend of the Newsomes, said colleges have continued to recruit the talented quarterback even after his Michigan commitment.
Virginia Tech, a team Newsome grew up rooting for, is among those suitors.
"I thought when he picked Michigan, he jumped the gun a little bit, and I was disappointed," Johnston said. "I told him that."
Johnston is not a big fan of Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez, who told Newsome he was "their guy" and then continued to recruit several other top quarterbacks. Michigan received a second QB commitment just days after Newsome's pledge.
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Friday, July 25, 2008
Big Ten: Michigan
Slocum off team, Grady in limbo
Rodriguez says tackle didn't live up to U-M's standards; tailback is suspended indefinitely.
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News

CHICAGO -- Kevin Grady is indefinitely suspended from the Michigan Wolverines, and Marques Slocum is no longer on the team.

Grady, a backup tailback from Grand Rapids, is no longer working out with his teammates after being arrested earlier this month for allegedly driving while intoxicated, according to Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez.

Meanwhile, Slocum, a defensive tackle who played one season for the Wolverines after transferring from a prep school and sitting out a year, did not "meet the requirements" to play football at Michigan, Rodriguez said on Thursday, the first day of Big Ten media days.

"Several issues, academically and football-wise," Rodriguez said when discussing Slocum.

As for Grady, he apparently has a long road to work his way back into Rodriguez's good graces. Grady sat out last season while recovering from a knee injury.

"He's working out on his own," Rodriguez said. "Still attending classes. It's kind of on a week-by-week basis on him getting back. He has to do certain things internally within the program to get back on the team. And then once he does that, there will be some playing-time penalties as well and then he's on a strict kind of a watch. He has to earn his way on the team, and we'll take it from there."
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Slocum off team, Grady in limbo
 
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HailToMichigan;1213853; said:
:roll2: ... is that anything like how classy it is to lambaste another coach for "stealing" a commitment when that's something you do yourself? And to let that fester in the media, taking potshots through the papers?

Everything about that "snake oil" stuff, and other coaches taking shots at RR for recruiting other schools' commits, was pure bullshit. Everything. Wasn't fair to RR to have that be a subject of debate considering damn near every single coach in the Big Ten has taken commitments from other schools - even other Big Ten schools. Including Tiller. I think Northwestern is the only exception. So RR has every right to make a smart-ass comment like that, when Tiller was that far out of line.
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Pure bullshit is one person of Hispanic heritage manufacturing a race issue against his employer and alma mater in order to gain a PR advantage in a breach of contract lawsuit.
 
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ShakerBuck;1213997; said:
Maybe Joe wasn't mad at RR for recruiting one of his commits (which I think everyone will agree is relatively commonplace) but rather "selling somebody something of little or no value" which is what it means to be a snake oil salesman. He didn't call him a thief

Maybe RR was selling a WR recruit (Roundtree) of the TSUN WR legacy and how many receivers they send to NFL compared to Purdue...when in reality a receiver in the RR offense is underutilized.
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This makes sense to me...lets see if Rountree gets a lot of touches...we know Purdue is willing to air it out, but RR..not so much at WVU.

I really think all the coaches expect some kids to be recruited beyond their verbal pledge somewhere. Further I believe those actions are often fueled by the recruit in question who either doesn't want to say no to other coaches..or is still interested in looking around. I think Tiller went after RR because of the message, not because UM continued to pursue Roundtree after he pledged to Purdue.
 
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brutus2002;1215057; said:
Rod Woodson commits to the Tide.
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Sucks but it was expected... He's interesting because he flat out said Michigan was too cold to play football for, yet he kept us in his Top 5 the entire time before his Alabama commit... oh well.

and Jelani Jenkins is supposed to be visiting tomorrow.. Don't expect much outta that, but hey you never know.
 
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HINYG8;1214420; said:
This makes sense to me...lets see if Rountree gets a lot of touches...we know Purdue is willing to air it out, but RR..not so much at WVU.

I really think all the coaches expect some kids to be recruited beyond their verbal pledge somewhere. Further I believe those actions are often fueled by the recruit in question who either doesn't want to say no to other coaches..or is still interested in looking around. I think Tiller went after RR because of the message, not because UM continued to pursue Roundtree after he pledged to Purdue.
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He won't get many touches, I think. If a freshman gets many touches it'll be Stonum, who made coach happy by enrolling early. RR said he's five months ahead of the rest of the class.

As for Roundtree's decommitment from Purdue, it didn't have anything to do with whatever message RR gave him beyond "here's your offer". U-M is Roundtree's dream school and the only reason he wasn't committed there before is because he never got an offer. That's why the switch.
 
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You're in tune with what rr's pitch was? I think tiller is a grumpy gus who went too far, but given the qb situation and offensive tendencies, is it wrong to assert the sell may have been overstated to roundtree?

I'm still a little surprised UM took him. I can understand other undersized gamebreakers, but roundtree is more of a possession guy with the size of a "need to redshirt" speed guy. He's about 155-160 and was about that size last fall.

And he certainly will not be up to standards as a blocker, a crucial skill in this offense.

I don't like Moore all that much, but can see the potential. And while Shaw is not a great fit for every offense, he has an excellent one in UM and could do very nicely this year. But I think roundtree was a reach.
HailToMichigan;1215170; said:
He won't get many touches, I think. If a freshman gets many touches it'll be Stonum, who made coach happy by enrolling early. RR said he's five months ahead of the rest of the class.

As for Roundtree's decommitment from Purdue, it didn't have anything to do with whatever message RR gave him beyond "here's your offer". U-M is Roundtree's dream school and the only reason he wasn't committed there before is because he never got an offer. That's why the switch.
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