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HailToMichigan;1148140; said:
Given RR's methods it's highly understandable that his former charges are happy with a change of pace. In fact it's probably to be expected, especially since they were the ones who pushed for Stewart to be hired in the first place.
No, that would be expected if the WVU players pushed for Rodriguez to be fired and replaced with Stewart. The fact that Rodriguez quit of his own volition, and the players then had any particular preference for Rodriguez's replacement, doesn't make it "expected" that they'd have issues with Rodriguez's coaching style.
HailToMichigan;1148140; said:
And why does White's comment carry more weight than those of Michigan players who think the new approach will be good for them, too?
This should be obvious. Now that Rodriguez is no longer his coach, Pat White stands to make no gain nor suffer any harm as a result of whatever comments he makes about Rodriguez. Current Michigan players, in contrast, are likely to pay a price for publicly criticizing their head coach - as would be the case at most any school. That doesn't automatically mean that any compliments Michigan players pay to their coach are insincere, but there clearly is a difference in the amount of honesty that can be assumed in the two situations.
 
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RR got his second QB in Shavodrick Beaver.. After Newsome committed, it was basically a race to see who would commit to fill in the 2nd QB spot between Forcier and Beaver.. Forcier wanted to take his time a little bit so Beaver jumped at the spot.. I don't know if a 4* QB would want to come in with two other 4* QBs when he could be basically be guaranteed playing time (Not guaranteed, but you all know what I mean if their the only QB coming in) but we got the 2 RR needed. A 3rd would be very interesting if the instance came up.. We're still in dire needs of 2-3 DEs this year..
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1151472; said:
Hope you get 12 more just like them.

I'll never understand QBs going to the same school. RBs? Fine...you need more than one. WRs? OLine? Of course. But QBs? How does that work?

Well, Newsome and Forcier he sold them on the Tebow and Leak duo.. They both like that.. and Beaver he sold him on "If you come in and work hard, you'll play." Beaver said he's fine with 3 QBs coming in this class and Newsome said a while back RR said he's taking more then 1 QB and he's fine with that as well. It all depends on Forcier.
 
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ChisAto;1151473; said:
Well, Newsome and Forcier he sold them on the Tebow and Leak duo.. They both like that..
That's not really the same thing, though, considering that Leak was a senior when Tebow was a freshman. I'd bet most quarterbacks would be happy to be guaranteed a situational role for their freshman year. Very few, I suspect, would be happy to be guaranteed that role for four years.

That said, I don't think it's that unusual for a school to sign more than one highly regarded QB in the same year. It happened at OSU not so long ago. But I'd bet each of those guys is hoping, and to some extent expecting, to win a true starting job somewhere down the line.
 
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zincfinger;1151482; said:
That's not really the same thing, though, considering that Leak was a senior when Tebow was a freshman. I'd bet most quarterbacks would be happy to be guaranteed a situational role for their freshman year. Very few, I suspect, would be happy to be guaranteed that role for four years.

That said, I don't think it's that unusual for a school to sign more than one highly regarded QB in the same year. It happened at OSU not so long ago. But I'd bet each of those guys is hoping, and to some extent expecting, to win a true starting job somewhere down the line.
I would also add that the point of having a tandem is to have dissimilar styles. Don't think there's a lot of difference in Newsome's and Beaver's playing styles, so I think it kind of defeats the purpose. But two is better than one. Competition is always a plus. And RR's offense kind of makes quarterbacks take a beating, so a tandem would have the dual benefit of having a safety net if one goes down, and reducing the risk of injury overall.
 
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jwinslow;1151535; said:
GBW $

QB Shavodrick Beaver is a wolverine.

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HailToMichigan;1151538; said:
...But two is better than one. Competition is always a plus. And RR's offense kind of makes quarterbacks take a beating, so a tandem would have the dual benefit of having a safety net if one goes down, and reducing the risk of injury overall.
Sure, that's easy to agree with. But you're kind of inverting the (moot) point from "why would multiple highly-rated QB's want to sign with the same school?", to "why would one school want to sign multiple highly-rated QB's?". But yes, it's easy to see why Michigan would want to sign both of them. For the reasons you mentioned, and perhaps most of all, because you're doubling your chances that at least one guy will pan out.
 
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zincfinger;1151550; said:
Sure, that's easy to agree with. But you're kind of inverting the (moot) point from "why would multiple highly-rated QB's want to sign with the same school?", to "why would one school want to sign multiple highly-rated QB's?". But yes, it's easy to see why Michigan would want to sign both of them. For the reasons you mentioned, and perhaps most of all, because you're doubling your chances that at least one guy will pan out.
When it comes down to that, Beaver's deal is that TCU and sundry other schools were recruiting him as an athlete/WR/not-quarterback. He was set to commit to TCU as such when RR offered him as a QB. Apparently he prefers playing QB enough that competition and a possible back-up role is better than another position. Michigan instead of TCU probably has a little bit to do with it too.
 
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