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Buckeneye;962399; said:
It was hypothetical. He didn't say we really are going to lose every bowl game or that we have to.
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It was hypothetical. He didn't say we really are going to lose every bowl game or that we have to.
cjmik_75
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MililaniBuckeye;962034; said:
Excellent point about the first quarter what I found is also mind-boggling: the third quarter points scored and given up. I've always felt like if you come out the second half and make a statement it says alot about your team.
Take out that KO return to open the half by NW and our D has allowed but a single field goal in the third quarter. I think :osu:scoring D is really where it's at, give up some yards but get TO's, sacks and force em to punt. I love it!!
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TS10HTW;962581; said:...I think :osu:scoring D is really where it's at, give up some yards but get TO's, sacks and force em to punt. I love it!!
There have been years past where the Buckeyes "gave up yards" but were hard to score against... the old "bend-but-don't-break" defense.
It might seem that way this year to OSU fans, since we've been so spoiled by the dominance of this defense.
But when you lead the nation in Total Defense as well as Scoring Defense, it is doubtful that your opponents find you remotely pliable.
This is not "bend-but-don't-break". This is "shut-up-and-give-me-your-lunch-money".
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TS10HTW;962581; said:
Good point. It's always great to smack the opposing offense from the start of each half. In the opening quarter of each half, the defense has yet to surrender a TD, and has allowed but 3 points...the other 34 points the defense has surrendered have been scored during the second half of each half, and 21 of those points only came within the last minute or so of the half.
Phenomenal...
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Buckeneye;962399; said:
My point is that I would rather play in the title game every year and risk losing than to play in a different bowl game and win.
Oh...and I don't care about any kind of "persona". We'll leave that to the people that scan articles over the internet that "bash" the buckeyes looking for various ways to play the disrespect card.
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A stark change from some past defenses (05?), which seemed to often surrender points on their first drive... then adjust and begin to impose their will.
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MililaniBuckeye;962600; said:
That 3rd quarter field goal was given up against the Penguins. A fumble on our 27 yard line set them up nicely. They gained 3 yards in 3 plays and kicked the field goal.
But for a safety, a KO return and a fumble, this defense has shut out 7 straight opponents in the opening stanza of each half.
This just in.... They're pretty good.
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The Buckeye Defense have allowed opponents into the Red Zone only 9 times this year. They have prevented touchdowns on 6 of those occasions.
If you were to handicap the Ohio State Defense by retroactively awarding our opponents touchdowns for crossing the Ohio State 20 yard line (entering the Red Zone); and even if you allowed them to keep the field goals they subsequently scored...
THEN OHIO STATE WOULD STILL LEAD THE BIG TEN IN SCORING DEFENSE. (by 1 point)
...and they'd still be undefeated.
If you were to handicap the Ohio State Defense by retroactively awarding our opponents touchdowns for crossing the Ohio State 20 yard line (entering the Red Zone); and even if you allowed them to keep the field goals they subsequently scored...
THEN OHIO STATE WOULD STILL LEAD THE BIG TEN IN SCORING DEFENSE. (by 1 point)
...and they'd still be undefeated.
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cjmik_75
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I'd like to see Beanie, Mo and Brandon control the clock and run all over the spartan d this week. Our O-line being physical and opening holes for our stable of backs to keep our defense well rested and their running game off the field.:osu:
And while they are on the field bitch slap the hell out of em all the way back to east lansing
Don't get me wrong I like the big plays our offense makes in the passing game but it'd go along way to keep msu from getting any rhythm.
35-0 in the first half is still acceptable then we can really turn the dogs loose!
And while they are on the field bitch slap the hell out of em all the way back to east lansing
Don't get me wrong I like the big plays our offense makes in the passing game but it'd go along way to keep msu from getting any rhythm.
35-0 in the first half is still acceptable then we can really turn the dogs loose!
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PlanetFrnd
Head Coach
Just past the midseason, the tOSU defense is holding opponents to 26 points under their offensive scoring average (excluding the game played against tOSU)... not bad. The offensive rankings of the teams we're playing this year are suffering because the defense is holding them so far below their average, so it's not a completely fair guage of the offesive teams we've been playing based in their national ranking for scoring offensive found here.
........................................................................tOSU.........Scoring........Scoring
.................................Total...........Offensive.......Offensive......Total..........Average........Points
................................Scoring..........Scoring..........Points.......Excluding......Excluding.......Below
..................Games.....Offense.........Average.........Allowed........tOSU...........tOSU.........Average
Youngstown St. .7.................195................27.86................... .6................189.................31.50.................... (25.50)
Akron..............7................144................20.57 ....................0.................144................24.00 .....................(24.00)
Washington........6.................155................25.83 ..................14.................141................28.20 .....................(14.20)
Northwestern......7.................197................28.14 ....................0.................197................32.83...................... (32.83)
Minnesota........7.................217................31.00 ....................7.................210................35.00...................... (28.00)
Purdue............7.................255................36.43.................... 7.................248.................41.33 ....................(34.33)
Kent St............7................150.................21.43 ...................3..................147................24.50......................(21.50)
.....................................................................................................................................................Average: (25.77)
Please forgive the formatting - not sure how to paste charts.
........................................................................tOSU.........Scoring........Scoring
.................................Total...........Offensive.......Offensive......Total..........Average........Points
................................Scoring..........Scoring..........Points.......Excluding......Excluding.......Below
..................Games.....Offense.........Average.........Allowed........tOSU...........tOSU.........Average
Youngstown St. .7.................195................27.86................... .6................189.................31.50.................... (25.50)
Akron..............7................144................20.57 ....................0.................144................24.00 .....................(24.00)
Washington........6.................155................25.83 ..................14.................141................28.20 .....................(14.20)
Northwestern......7.................197................28.14 ....................0.................197................32.83...................... (32.83)
Minnesota........7.................217................31.00 ....................7.................210................35.00...................... (28.00)
Purdue............7.................255................36.43.................... 7.................248.................41.33 ....................(34.33)
Kent St............7................150.................21.43 ...................3..................147................24.50......................(21.50)
.....................................................................................................................................................Average: (25.77)
Please forgive the formatting - not sure how to paste charts.
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[quote='BusNative;96271;1]Just past the midseason, the tOSU defense is holding opponents to 26 points under their offensive scoring average (excluding the game played against tOSU)... not bad. The offensive rankings of the teams we're playing this year are suffering because the defense is holding them so far below their average, so it's not a completely fair guage of the offesive teams we've been playing based in their national ranking for scoring offensive found here.
........................................................................tOSU.........Scoring........Scoring
.................................Total...........Offensive.......Offensive......Total..........Average........Points
................................Scoring..........Scoring..........Points.......Excluding......Excluding.......Below
..................Games.....Offense.........Average.........Allowed........tOSU...........tOSU.........Average
Youngstown St. .7.................195................27.86................... .6................189.................31.50.................... (25.50)
Akron..............7................144................20.57 ....................0.................144................24.00 .....................(24.00)
Washington........6.................155................25.83 ..................14.................141................28.20 .....................(14.20)
Northwestern......7.................197................28.14 ....................0.................197................32.83...................... (32.83)
Minnesota........7.................217................31.00 ....................7.................210................35.00...................... (28.00)
Purdue............7.................255................36.43.................... 7.................248.................41.33 ....................(34.33)
Kent St............7................150.................21.43 ...................3..................147................24.50......................(21.50)
.....................................................................................................................................................Average: (25.77)
Please forgive the formatting - not sure how to paste charts. [/quote]
DBB has been posting this very same info throughout the thread...
........................................................................tOSU.........Scoring........Scoring
.................................Total...........Offensive.......Offensive......Total..........Average........Points
................................Scoring..........Scoring..........Points.......Excluding......Excluding.......Below
..................Games.....Offense.........Average.........Allowed........tOSU...........tOSU.........Average
Youngstown St. .7.................195................27.86................... .6................189.................31.50.................... (25.50)
Akron..............7................144................20.57 ....................0.................144................24.00 .....................(24.00)
Washington........6.................155................25.83 ..................14.................141................28.20 .....................(14.20)
Northwestern......7.................197................28.14 ....................0.................197................32.83...................... (32.83)
Minnesota........7.................217................31.00 ....................7.................210................35.00...................... (28.00)
Purdue............7.................255................36.43.................... 7.................248.................41.33 ....................(34.33)
Kent St............7................150.................21.43 ...................3..................147................24.50......................(21.50)
.....................................................................................................................................................Average: (25.77)
Please forgive the formatting - not sure how to paste charts. [/quote]
DBB has been posting this very same info throughout the thread...
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PlanetFrnd
Head Coach
MililaniBuckeye;962714; said:
Sonofa! Well, then he can check my work
Edit: I just looked back at DBB's DSD posts - didn't see that the first time through, I'll leave my post up because it chops up the data in a different way - no harm in too much information.
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[quote='BusNative;96271;6]Sonofa! Well, then he can check my work [/quote]
I think he calls it Differential Scoring (guess I should go back and check). His does for both offense and defense...good stuff. Although yours looks to add the specifics of each game...DBB's is more composited (if that's a word).
[/quote]I think he calls it Differential Scoring (guess I should go back and check). His does for both offense and defense...good stuff. Although yours looks to add the specifics of each game...DBB's is more composited (if that's a word).
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buckeyes_rock
Great day to be a Buckeye
DaddyBigBucks;962598; said:This is not "bend-but-don't-break". This is "shut-up-and-give-me-your-lunch-money".
Very nice. I loved the Purdue game. Only true Buckeye fans appreciated how badly we kicked the crap out of them because the score wasn't ugly enough for the rest of the world. But that was definately a good old fashion bullying.
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PlanetFrnd
Head Coach
DaddyBigBucks;957528; said:
Without stepping on DBB's toes too much, in 2006 the Buckeyes held opponents to 13 points under their offensive scoring average. If you look at only the first 11 games that average was -17.5 points. If tOSU had held Florida and scUM to their scoring average (0 point differential), the season average would have been just under 15 points less per game.
Amazing that the last two games gave 4.5 points back to each team...
Still, 26 points less per game is awesome... Give me your lunch money!!!
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