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2005 Pre-Season Chatter

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MililaniBuckeye said:
How about this: If you win, I change my name to "goodguyrules" for a month. If I win, you change you name to "I'm a spineless fuck who leaves anonymous dings".
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Nah let's do this.

The Bet: Wheather or not T. Ginn takes ONE or more snap(s) either under center or shotgunn for the entire season including any bowl game.

If Mililani wins he gets.
1. $50 (NOT Vcash, real cash) donation from goodguy to the BuckeyePlanet
2. Goodguy will leave BuckeyePlanet and not post for one full month after the last game of the year (which probaly means after the bowl game).
3. Goodguy will change his name to "I Lost to MililaniBuckeye" for one full year starting upon his return from the one month leave.

If Goodguy wins he gets.
1. $50 (NOT Vcash, real cash) donation from MililaniBuckeye to the BuckeyePlanet
2. MililaniBuckeye will leave BuckeyePlanet and not post for one full month after the last game of the year (which probaly means a bowl game).
3. MililaniBuckeye will change his name to "I Lost to Goodguy" for one full year starting upon his return from the one month leave.

Stipulations
1. If at any point in the season, Tedd Ginn is to miss the remainder of the season for any reason, the above bet is null and void.
2. If Tedd Ginn misses 5 or more games due to injury, the above bet is null and void.
3. We need an agreed upon intermediate to make rulings on points of contention that could arise during the season. I would like to suggest LJB, Bucknutty or Sears assuming they are willing to be an intermediate.

Welllll..........we're waiting.....

P.S. I dinged you for your response to Taosman's thread. I didn't care for it.
 
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The way I read the rules, goodguy, if Teddy takes a couple of snaps from center in the first month, and then gets hurt (heaven forbid) you'd lose the bet. I think you want to change it to say you only lose if Teddy plays in at least 8 games and never takes a snap.

And I'm not involved, but I don't think the bowl game should be involved in the bet. Settle up either way in November.
 
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BB73 said:
The way I read the rules, goodguy, if Teddy takes a couple of snaps from center in the first month, and then gets hurt (heaven forbid) you'd lose the bet. I think you want to change it to say you only lose if Teddy plays in at least 8 games and never takes a snap.

And I'm not involved, but I don't think the bowl game should be involved in the bet. Settle up either way in November.
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Good point. Maybe you should be the mediator :) . I disagree about not involving the the bowl game. TG took that snap in the Alamo Bowl when Zwick got hurt, how could I not include it :) .

How bout this amendment to the bet. If at any point TG does take a snap during the season prior to any injury situation (see Stipulation 1 and 2) Goodguy wins.

Damn this is getting complicated :! . But can you blame me for setting those stipulations. He would win just because Ginn didn't play in games, that would suck. It would only add to his know it all ego. Ohy vey
 
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SI.com/Athlon preview of tOSU

A team preview from SI/com, compiled by Athlon. Their comments are reasonable, but the offensive depth chart doesn't have Mitchum in the 2-deep, and shows Schnittker as the starter at FB. I would expect those things to change next month. Their DB listings still show E.J. Underwood, so they're not current, and they have Sirjo Welch starting at 1 corner. He may unseat Everett, but I'd be surprised if that happens before the opener.

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Ted Ginn Jr.
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tablesHolder><!-- **** STATS TABLE **** --><!-- paste here--><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=heading style="BORDER-RIGHT: #bbb 1px solid" width="46%">The Lowdown</TD><TD class=redHeading width="54%">2005 Schedule</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #bbb 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; PADDING-TOP: 5px">Coach: Jim Tressel (5th season, 40-11)
2004 record: 8-4 (Beat Oklahoma State in Alamo Bowl)
Big Ten finish: 4-4 (t-5th)
2004 I-A offensive rankings:
Rushing: 70th (145.4 ypg)
Passing: 97th (175.4 ypg)
2004 I-A defensive rankings:
Rushing: 35th (130.4 ypg)
Passing: 41st (201.6 ypg)
</TD><TD><TABLE id=sked cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#dddddd border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BACKGROUND: #fff" width="34%">Date</TD><TD class=skedR style="BACKGROUND: #fff" width="66%">Opponent</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sept. 3</TD><TD class=skedR>Miami (OH)</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sept. 10</TD><TD class=skedR>Texas</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sept. 17</TD><TD class=skedR>San Diego State</TD></TR><TR><TD>Sept. 24</TD><TD class=skedR>Iowa</TD></TR><TR><TD>Oct. 8</TD><TD class=skedR>at Penn State</TD></TR><TR><TD>Oct. 15</TD><TD class=skedR>Michigan State</TD></TR><TR><TD>Oct. 22</TD><TD class=skedR>at Indiana</TD></TR><TR><TD>Oct. 29</TD><TD class=skedR>at Minnesota</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 5</TD><TD class=skedR>Illinois</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 12</TD><TD class=skedR>Northwestern</TD></TR><TR><TD>Nov. 19</TD><TD class=skedR>at Michigan</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=heading colSpan=2>Depth Chart: Offense</TD></TR><TR><TD class=subHeading colSpan=2>8 returning starters in red</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="depthC depthHead">Ps.</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">No.</TD><TD class="depth depthHead">Player</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">Yr.</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">No.</TD><TD class="depth depthHead">Player</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead depthLast">Yr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>FL</TD><TD class=depthC>4</TD><TD class=depth>Santonio Holmes</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>11</TD><TD class=depth>Anthony Gonzalez</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>SE</TD><TD class=depthC>7</TD><TD class=depth>Ted Ginn Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>So.</TD><TD class=depthC>8</TD><TD class=depth>Roy Hall</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>LT</TD><TD class=depthC>77</TD><TD class=depth>Rob Sims</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>71</TD><TD class=depth>Steve Rehring</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>LG</TD><TD class=depthC>72</TD><TD class=depth>T.J. Downing</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>69</TD><TD class=depth>Andree Tyree</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>C</TD><TD class=depthC>55</TD><TD class=depth>Nick Mangold</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>73</TD><TD class=depth>Steve Winner</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Sr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>RG</TD><TD class=depthC>50</TD><TD class=depth>Doug Datish</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>59</TD><TD class=depth>John Conroy</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>RT</TD><TD class=depthC>74</TD><TD class=depth>Kirk Barton</TD><TD class=depthC>So.</TD><TD class=depthC>68</TD><TD class=depth>Tim Schafer</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>TE</TD><TD class=depthC>80</TD><TD class=depth>Ryan Hamby</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>81</TD><TD class=depth>Marcel Frost</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>QB</TD><TD class=depthC>10</TD><TD class=depth>Troy Smith</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>12</TD><TD class=depth>Justin Zwick</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>FB</TD><TD class=depthC>43</TD><TD class=depth>Brandon Schnittker</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>49</TD><TD class=depth>Dionte Johnson</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>TB</TD><TD class=depthC>25</TD><TD class=depth>Antonio Pittman</TD><TD class=depthC>So.</TD><TD class=depthC>2</TD><TD class=depth>Erik Haw</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Fr.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=heading colSpan=2>Depth Chart: Defense</TD></TR><TR><TD class=subHeading colSpan=2>10 returning starters in red</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="depthC depthHead">Ps.</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">No.</TD><TD class="depth depthHead">Player</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">Yr.</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">No.</TD><TD class="depth depthHead">Player</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead depthLast">Yr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>DE</TD><TD class=depthC>99</TD><TD class=depth>Jay Richardson</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>78</TD><TD class=depth>Alex Barrow</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Fr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>DT</TD><TD class=depthC>94</TD><TD class=depth>Marcus Green</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>97</TD><TD class=depth>David Patterson</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>DT</TD><TD class=depthC>90</TD><TD class=depth>Quinn Pitcock</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>98</TD><TD class=depth>Joel Penton</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Jr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>DE</TD><TD class=depthC>57</TD><TD class=depth>Mike Kudla</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>50</TD><TD class=depth>Vernon Gholston</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>SLB</TD><TD class=depthC>42</TD><TD class=depth>Bobby Carpenter</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>17</TD><TD class=depth>Marcus Freeman</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>MLB</TD><TD class=depthC>51</TD><TD class=depth>Anthony Schlegel</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>5</TD><TD class=depth>Mike D’Andrea</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>WLB</TD><TD class=depthC>47</TD><TD class=depth>A.J. Hawk</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>44</TD><TD class=depth>Curtis Terry</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>CB</TD><TD class=depthC>26</TD><TD class=depth>Ashton Youboty</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>29</TD><TD class=depth>Shaun Lane</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>CB</TD><TD class=depthC>30</TD><TD class=depth>Sirjo Welch</TD><TD class=depthC>So.</TD><TD class=depthC>2</TD><TD class=depth>E.J. Underwood</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Sr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>SS</TD><TD class=depthC>9</TD><TD class=depth>Donte Whitner</TD><TD class=depthC>Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>6</TD><TD class=depth>Tyler Everett</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Sr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>FS</TD><TD class=depthC>21</TD><TD class=depth>Nate Salley</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD><TD class=depthC>32</TD><TD class=depth>Brandon Mitchell</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=heading colSpan=2>Special Teams</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="depthC depthHead">Ps.</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">No.</TD><TD class="depth depthHead">Player</TD><TD class="depthC depthHead">Yr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>K</TD><TD class=depthC>23</TD><TD class=depth>Josh Huston</TD><TD class=depthC>Sr.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>P</TD><TD class=depthC>15</TD><TD class=depth>A.J. Trapasso</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">Fr.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=depthC>KR</TD><TD class=depthC>7</TD><TD class=depth>Ted Ginn Jr.</TD><TD class=depthC>So.</TD></TR><TR class=depthGBg><TD class=depthC>PR</TD><TD class=depthC>7</TD><TD class=depth>Ted Ginn Jr.</TD><TD class="depthC depthLast">So.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--/end paste from tool-->

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tag -- there's a tag above the stats table.****-->You have to forgive Ohio State fans for noticing the similarities. The Buckeyes entered what would be a fantasy-like 2002 season appearing loaded on defense, having concerns about special teams, returning several key figures on offense and hoping to enjoy the benefit of a forgiving schedule filled with early home games. Also, there was a big question at quarterback: Could someone emerge to lead a very talented Buckeyes team to glory?

The answer, as we now know, was a resounding "yes" as signal-caller Craig Krenzel made all the right plays and the Buckeyes plucked every team on the ledger en route to the national championship.

Three years later, Troy Smith and Justin Zwick -- who were wide-eyed redshirts on that 14-0 team of 2002 -- will head into the fateful fall with hopes of being the point man. Smith appeared to end the controversy last year when he put together a banner day with 386 total yards in the surprise blowout of Rose Bowl-bound Michigan. However, he re-opened the door days later when he accepted money from a booster and was suspended from the Alamo Bowl. Zwick gutted out a damaged hamstring and led OSU to a drubbing of Oklahoma State.

Smith's suspension carries into the season opener with Miami of Ohio. That means intense speculation is ahead, especially since Smith returns just in time for a key brouhaha with Texas.

So who will emerge?



"It doesn't matter to me," superstar wideout Ted Ginn Jr. said. "We proved we could win with both of them, so I don't think it really matters." OFFENSE

An evolution could be afoot for the Ohio State offense, which was plodding at best during the first half of last season yet grew into the unit that destroyed Michigan and Oklahoma State to close the 2004 campaign. Coach Jim Tressel wants to continue to put pressure on opposing defenses with spread formations that create space for tailbacks Antonio Pittman and Erik Haw and create matchup problems on wideouts Santonio Holmes, Anthony Gonzalez and Ginn, who could have a breakout season in an expanded offensive role. Tight ends Ryan Hamby and Marcel Frost will also be involved in the passing game.

Expect Smith to reprise his role as a playmaker after serving a suspension for the season-opener. Zwick will be at the ready if Smith struggles to shake off rust or the coaches opt for a quarterback shuffle.

The offensive line returns four starters, led by left tackle Rob Sims and center Nick Mangold, a pair of battle-tested seniors.

DEFENSE

The strength of the Ohio State defense will be a trio of savvy senior linebackers who will form one of the nation's top units. Anthony Schlegel missed almost all of spring practice after having a knee scoped, but he should be ready to man the middle. Bobby Carpenter reclaims his role on the strong side, where he is as adept at handling tight ends in pass patterns as he is shedding blocks and disrupting run plays. Meanwhile, A.J. Hawk could be as effective a defender as there is in college football.

The Buckeyes also boast experience at safety while Ashton Youboty appears to be a rising star at cornerback. The other spot could be up in the air, but don't discount at least a part-time appearance there by Ginn.

The effectiveness of the front four could be a huge key as Jay Richardson, Marcus Green, Quinn Pitcock and Mike Kudla bring experience but are coming off a season in which they combined for just nine sacks. Richardson could become a presence with some sustained intensity.

SPECIALISTS

The Buckeyes' season very well may rest on the kicking game. No one expects Josh Huston to make people forget about last year's Lou Groza Award winner, Mike Nugent, but the sixth-year senior will have a prominent role just the same considering all the close games in which the Buckeyes often find themselves. Also, A.J. Trapasso will need to be a capable punter in his first year on the job, as Tressel loves to play the field-position game.

The return teams should sparkle with both Ginn and Holmes set in deep return mode on kickoffs and punts.

FINAL ANALYSIS



Even with an expected dropoff at placekicker and running backs who have yet to prove they are up to the lofty standard, it's hard to look at the Buckeyes (and their schedule) and not think they are a serious threat to win the Big Ten. Talent drips at the skill positions and in the linebacking corps, the defense is stacked with veterans and the offensive line looks as sturdy as it was when OSU won the 2002 national title. Still, the offense needs to find another gear, the defensive line needs to be more forceful and this team has to prove it has the cohesiveness to flirt with greatness.

A shot at the Rose Bowl will depend on how well the Bucks fare in a late-September showdown with Iowa and a trip to Ann Arbor in November.

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You have to forgive Ohio State fans for noticing the similarities. The Buckeyes entered what would be a fantasy-like 2002 season appearing loaded on defense, having concerns about special teams, returning several key figures on offense and hoping to enjoy the benefit of a forgiving schedule filled with early home games. Also, there was a big question at quarterback: Could someone emerge to lead a very talented Buckeyes team to glory? The answer, as we now know, was a resounding "yes" as signal-caller Craig Krenzel made all the right plays and the Buckeyes plucked every team on the ledger en route to the national championship.

Three years later, Troy Smith and Justin Zwick -- who were wide-eyed redshirts on that 14-0 team of 2002 -- will head into the fateful fall with hopes of being the point man. Smith appeared to end the controversy last year when he put together a banner day with 386 total yards in the surprise blowout of Rose Bowl-bound Michigan. However, he re-opened the door days later when he accepted money from a booster and was suspended from the Alamo Bowl. Zwick gutted out a damaged hamstring and led OSU to a drubbing of Oklahoma State.

Smith's suspension carries into the season opener with Miami of Ohio. That means intense speculation is ahead, especially since Smith returns just in time for a key brouhaha with Texas.

So who will emerge?

"It doesn't matter to me," superstar wideout Ted Ginn Jr. said. "We proved we could win with both of them, so I don't think it really matters."

OFFENSE

An evolution could be afoot for the Ohio State offense, which was plodding at best during the first half of last season yet grew into the unit that destroyed Michigan and Oklahoma State to close the 2004 campaign. Coach Jim Tressel wants to continue to put pressure on opposing defenses with spread formations that create space for tailbacks Antonio Pittman and Erik Haw and create matchup problems on wideouts Santonio Holmes, Anthony Gonzalez and Ginn, who could have a breakout season in an expanded offensive role. Tight ends Ryan Hamby and Marcel Frost will also be involved in the passing game.

Expect Smith to reprise his role as a playmaker after serving a suspension for the season-opener. Zwick will be at the ready if Smith struggles to shake off rust or the coaches opt for a quarterback shuffle.

The offensive line returns four starters, led by left tackle Rob Sims and center Nick Mangold, a pair of battle-tested seniors.

DEFENSE

The strength of the Ohio State defense will be a trio of savvy senior linebackers who will form one of the nation's top units. Anthony Schlegel missed almost all of spring practice after having a knee scoped, but he should be ready to man the middle. Bobby Carpenter reclaims his role on the strong side, where he is as adept at handling tight ends in pass patterns as he is shedding blocks and disrupting run plays. Meanwhile, A.J. Hawk could be as effective a defender as there is in college football.

The Buckeyes also boast experience at safety while Ashton Youboty appears to be a rising star at cornerback. The other spot could be up in the air, but don't discount at least a part-time appearance there by Ginn.

The effectiveness of the front four could be a huge key as Jay Richardson, Marcus Green, Quinn Pitcock and Mike Kudla bring experience but are coming off a season in which they combined for just nine sacks. Richardson could become a presence with some sustained intensity.

SPECIALISTS

The Buckeyes' season very well may rest on the kicking game. No one expects Josh Huston to make people forget about last year's Lou Groza Award winner, Mike Nugent, but the sixth-year senior will have a prominent role just the same considering all the close games in which the Buckeyes often find themselves. Also, A.J. Trapasso will need to be a capable punter in his first year on the job, as Tressel loves to play the field-position game.

The return teams should sparkle with both Ginn and Holmes set in deep return mode on kickoffs and punts.

FINAL ANALYSIS

Even with an expected dropoff at placekicker and running backs who have yet to prove they are up to the lofty standard, it's hard to look at the Buckeyes (and their schedule) and not think they are a serious threat to win the Big Ten.

Talent drips at the skill positions and in the linebacking corps, the defense is stacked with veterans and the offensive line looks as sturdy as it was when OSU won the 2002 national title. Still, the offense needs to find another gear, the defensive line needs to be more forceful and this team has to prove it has the cohesiveness to flirt with greatness.

A shot at the Rose Bowl will depend on how well the Bucks fare in a late-September showdown with Iowa and a trip to Ann Arbor in November.
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The answer, as we now know, was a resounding "yes" as signal-caller Craig Krenzel made all the right plays and the Buckeyes plucked every team on the ledger en route to the national championship.
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Alert! Alert!

Subliminal Media Sour Grapes!

Nobody uses the word "plucked" in this situation.... he secretly means "lucked."

Stop linking to these Bastards. :wink2:
 
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Overconfidence?

No one expects Josh Huston to make people forget about last year's Lou Groza Award winner, Mike Nugent, but the sixth-year senior will have a prominent role just the same considering all the close games in which the Buckeyes often find themselves. Also, A.J. Trapasso will need to be a capable punter in his first year on the job, as Tressel loves to play the field-position game.

Boy, this reminder brought me back down to Earth. With Tress as the play caller, it is hard to believe we will be blowing teams away or even comfortably winning in the 3-4th quarters.

Our kicking game may very well make or break a great season.

Question: With all of the potent offensive weapons now and in the years to come at tOSU, isn't it time for Tress to step away and delegate the offensive system to a more capable coach who is a great schemer?
 
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ZachDumas said:
No one expects Josh Huston to make people forget about last year's Lou Groza Award winner, Mike Nugent, but the sixth-year senior will have a prominent role just the same considering all the close games in which the Buckeyes often find themselves. Also, A.J. Trapasso will need to be a capable punter in his first year on the job, as Tressel loves to play the field-position game.

Boy, this reminder brought me back down to Earth. With Tress as the play caller, it is hard to believe we will be blowing teams away or even comfortably winning in the 3-4th quarters.

Our kicking game may very well make or break a great season.

Question: With all of the potent offensive weapons now and in the years to come at tOSU, isn't it time for Tress to step away and delegate the offensive system to a more capable coach who is a great schemer?
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If anything, it's time for Santonio Holmes and Teddy Ginn to make Jim Tressel look like Norm Chow!
 
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