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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
Carmen Ohio said:
No shit bro, that is what I was saying.
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Tress is 3-1 against Michigan and 3-1 in bowl games with 2 BCS bowl wins and a national championship in only 4 years at OSU.ZachDumas said:
In 15 years at YSU, Tress took the Penguins to the Div1AA tournament 9 times, 6 times to the championship game, winning 4 of those.
The 2002 Buckeye team scored 400+ points in 14 games, for an average of almost 30PPG. His mid-90s YSU teams routinely scored 450 points in a 15 game season which also equates to approx 30PPG.
Tress has won National Titles with Power Run, Option, and Spread teams.
I dunno ... all these facts kinda lead me to believe Tress knows a little something about offense ...
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IronBuckI
Calmer than you are.
Still posting stupid shit huh? Try to pay attention to the play calling a little bit. Instead of listening to the too conservative BS. Maybe you should have watched the last half of the season. Troy Smith didn't have the great game against tsun because Coach was calling iso left and right. With all of the "potent weapons" maturing. Coach was able to call the style of that he's been recruiting for all along.ZachDumas said:
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I like the idea about the $50 donation to BP...the community wins regardless of which one of us (me) wins. How about this:
1. The $50 donation as you suggested.
2. Loser doesn't post for a month from:
a. The game that Ginn takes the snap (in the case of my losing)
b. The Game, i.e., last regular season game (in the case of you losing)
3. Loser changes signature to "I lost to (winner)".
Additionally, the loser cannot post under an alias (I have the alias "HickamBuckeye" from BN days), so I can't use that or any new moniker during the non-post period...same applies to you.
Loser can still PM others during the non-post period (in the one-in-a-million chance I lose, I need to work with folks for the recruiting database).
1. The $50 donation as you suggested.
2. Loser doesn't post for a month from:
a. The game that Ginn takes the snap (in the case of my losing)
b. The Game, i.e., last regular season game (in the case of you losing)
3. Loser changes signature to "I lost to (winner)".
Additionally, the loser cannot post under an alias (I have the alias "HickamBuckeye" from BN days), so I can't use that or any new moniker during the non-post period...same applies to you.
Loser can still PM others during the non-post period (in the one-in-a-million chance I lose, I need to work with folks for the recruiting database).
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daddyphatsacs
Let the cards fall...
Back to the topic.......
I'm not sure if Welch will be a suprise among us (planet dwellers), but I think he'll become a very valuable backup next season....prepping for 2006. The same thing can be said for Marcus Freeman....that guy has me stoked to no end. I've seen some fantastic things out of him, he reminds me a lot of Hawk. He's a gamer, plain and simple...he knows how to play LB..........well.
I'm not sure if Welch will be a suprise among us (planet dwellers), but I think he'll become a very valuable backup next season....prepping for 2006. The same thing can be said for Marcus Freeman....that guy has me stoked to no end. I've seen some fantastic things out of him, he reminds me a lot of Hawk. He's a gamer, plain and simple...he knows how to play LB..........well.
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Seriously I want to discuss the bet more, lets split the thread...
Why don't you allow yourselves to post within that month period, but at a prohimbitive rate of a couple bucks per post. That way if you really wanted to say something you could, but it would further benefit the server.
Why don't you allow yourselves to post within that month period, but at a prohimbitive rate of a couple bucks per post. That way if you really wanted to say something you could, but it would further benefit the server.
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ohiobuck94
Buckeye Beach Bum
OSU talented but issues.....
I want to think the Buckeyes will go undefeated but I'm apprehensive about the QB and the running back situations.
OSU talented, but some issues need addressing
Sunday, August 07, 2005
Tim May and Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
from 1460 the fan
Funny, but the preseason buzz around the Ohio State football team seems more like 1998 than 2002.
In 2002, the Buckeyes rose from way down on the totem pole — 13 th in the Associated Press preseason poll, to be exact — to win the national championship. It was a surprise. In 1998, they were No. 1 in the preseason, and expectations were extreme. This season, they start No. 9 in the USA Today coaches’ poll.
It’s not crazy to project the 2005 team for greatness, considering the talent that’s available at almost every position. But Dispatch reporters Tim May and Ken Gordon say there are still some questions that need answering during preseason camp, which begins today:
MAY: Is the quarterback situation going to be a distraction, if not for the team, at least for the QBs? With Troy Smith on suspension for the opener and with another foot in coach Jim Tressel’s doghouse for the Steve McNair camp affair, Justin Zwick — beaten out during the season last year — has a great second chance to assert himself. But will the team follow?
GORDON: Sure, the team will follow Zwick — for one game. The players respect him, particularly after his gutsy performance on one leg in the Alamo Bowl. But Smith clearly is the leader of this offense. Barring any more off-field setbacks, I expect he will take over sometime during the Texas game. OSU has a controversial quarterback, but not a quarterback controversy. To me, the more important question surrounds the running game. This team needs someone to step up and be the 20-carry-a-game back. Is Antonio Pittman that guy?
MAY: You really think one back is going to get 20 carries with all of that talent at receiver? Whatever happens, they are going to be thin at tailback, with Erik Haw and Maurice Wells the only other ones on scholarship. Yet, with fullbacks Brandon Schnittker and Dionte Johnson, they could line up in the I formation. But there doesn’t seem to be much I in this team, not with receivers Ted Ginn Jr., Santonio Holmes and Anthony Gonzalez. Maybe what they need to do is guarantee Ginn 20 touches.
GORDON: Can Ginn kick? With all the talent returning on offense and defense, one of the only unknowns heading into camp is how well kicker Josh Huston can replace Mike Nugent, and possibly A.J. Trapasso replacing punter Kyle Turano, if Turano doesn’t get his sixth year of eligibility. That’s a pretty good testament to how well-stocked the roster is.
MAY: Agreed. For example, there is the question about the "other cornerback" across from Ashton Youboty. Yet there seems to be several viable candidates, from veteran Tyler Everett to incoming freshman Jamario O’Neal, who excelled in seven-on-seven drills in July. Plus, incoming freshman receiver Andre Amos was quite impressive as a shutdown corner in a couple of all-star games this summer.
GORDON: One perennial question that should not have to be asked this year is: "Will the offensive line come together?" I believe it has, dating to late last season. The solidity of that unit from the start, more than anything, bodes well for the Buckeyes. Now, about that Texas game — nah, that will wait.
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tOSU revved
OSU FOOTBALL
2004 finish has Buckeyes revved for ’05
18 returning starters can help sustain last year’s momentum
Sunday, August 07, 2005
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The enthusiasm practically radiated from Mike Kudla like heat waves off pavement.
The Ohio State senior defensive lineman could hardly contain himself while talking about the 2005 season, which begins today when players report for fall camp. The first practice is Monday.
"I’m excited about it; I can’t wait," he said. "It’s going to be a good year."
As he spoke, Kudla flexed his rather substantial arm muscles, almost absentmindedly, as if to crush an imagined opponent.
"Last year, we kind of went through looking for an identity, and as soon as we found it toward the end of the year, we hit things on the head and we got it rolling really good," he said.
"And that built up momentum, and that’s what we’re carrying on. Let’s keep it going; let’s not just stop where we left off. We’ve got to hit the field this first game where we left off last year. That’s our main thing."
Kudla is not alone in his belief that the Buckeyes’ 5-1 second half of 2004 was something on which to build. They were 3-3 when they boomeranged, discovering a high-powered spread offense and transforming into an aggressive, attacking defense.
"We really finished the season strong," center Nick Mangold said, "and we’ve been working to keep that fever going."
Momentum can be a powerful force. And the Buckeyes finished 2004 with their two best games: a 37-21 victory over Michigan and a 33-7 laugher over Oklahoma State in the Alamo Bowl.
But a note of caution: Carrying momentum from one season into the next is not an automatic transmission. It’s manual, requiring work to shift gears.
"I think you can have (momentum) help you if you use it properly," coach Jim Tressel said. "The thing you have to fight is, don’t use it to our disadvantage. It’s not a freebie. It’s not, ‘Hey, we played good at the end; we’re going to play good at the beginning.’ That’s not a free pass."
As an example, Tressel said the 2001 and 2002 teams used end-ofseason momentum well to carry into the next. But the finish of the 2003 squad, which beat Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl, didn’t translate as well into last season.
Although the Buckeyes began 3-0 and were ranked in the top 10, they didn’t look pretty in the process. The 0-3 crash to start the Big Ten season was dramatic.
"I don’t know that we knew truly what we had to do to compete for the course of a whole year in our league," Tressel said.
The big difference, he said, was experience. The 2003 team had many returning starters. Last season, OSU had to replace 13 starters, including a quarterback and the bulk of its offensive and defensive lines.
"I don’t know that you can translate momentum with different guys," Tressel said.
And — no surprise here — that’s really at the heart of the optimism. Eighteen returning starters will check into University Plaza Hotel today, the first step toward what some observers believe could be a championship season.
"We have all the makings of going out and having a good year," Kudla said. "I just want to get to camp, get going, and get this machine rolling."
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I want to think the Buckeyes will go undefeated but I'm apprehensive about the QB and the running back situations.
OSU talented, but some issues need addressing
Sunday, August 07, 2005
Tim May and Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
from 1460 the fan
Funny, but the preseason buzz around the Ohio State football team seems more like 1998 than 2002.
In 2002, the Buckeyes rose from way down on the totem pole — 13 th in the Associated Press preseason poll, to be exact — to win the national championship. It was a surprise. In 1998, they were No. 1 in the preseason, and expectations were extreme. This season, they start No. 9 in the USA Today coaches’ poll.
It’s not crazy to project the 2005 team for greatness, considering the talent that’s available at almost every position. But Dispatch reporters Tim May and Ken Gordon say there are still some questions that need answering during preseason camp, which begins today:
MAY: Is the quarterback situation going to be a distraction, if not for the team, at least for the QBs? With Troy Smith on suspension for the opener and with another foot in coach Jim Tressel’s doghouse for the Steve McNair camp affair, Justin Zwick — beaten out during the season last year — has a great second chance to assert himself. But will the team follow?
GORDON: Sure, the team will follow Zwick — for one game. The players respect him, particularly after his gutsy performance on one leg in the Alamo Bowl. But Smith clearly is the leader of this offense. Barring any more off-field setbacks, I expect he will take over sometime during the Texas game. OSU has a controversial quarterback, but not a quarterback controversy. To me, the more important question surrounds the running game. This team needs someone to step up and be the 20-carry-a-game back. Is Antonio Pittman that guy?
MAY: You really think one back is going to get 20 carries with all of that talent at receiver? Whatever happens, they are going to be thin at tailback, with Erik Haw and Maurice Wells the only other ones on scholarship. Yet, with fullbacks Brandon Schnittker and Dionte Johnson, they could line up in the I formation. But there doesn’t seem to be much I in this team, not with receivers Ted Ginn Jr., Santonio Holmes and Anthony Gonzalez. Maybe what they need to do is guarantee Ginn 20 touches.
GORDON: Can Ginn kick? With all the talent returning on offense and defense, one of the only unknowns heading into camp is how well kicker Josh Huston can replace Mike Nugent, and possibly A.J. Trapasso replacing punter Kyle Turano, if Turano doesn’t get his sixth year of eligibility. That’s a pretty good testament to how well-stocked the roster is.
MAY: Agreed. For example, there is the question about the "other cornerback" across from Ashton Youboty. Yet there seems to be several viable candidates, from veteran Tyler Everett to incoming freshman Jamario O’Neal, who excelled in seven-on-seven drills in July. Plus, incoming freshman receiver Andre Amos was quite impressive as a shutdown corner in a couple of all-star games this summer.
GORDON: One perennial question that should not have to be asked this year is: "Will the offensive line come together?" I believe it has, dating to late last season. The solidity of that unit from the start, more than anything, bodes well for the Buckeyes. Now, about that Texas game — nah, that will wait.
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tOSU revved
OSU FOOTBALL
2004 finish has Buckeyes revved for ’05
18 returning starters can help sustain last year’s momentum
Sunday, August 07, 2005
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The enthusiasm practically radiated from Mike Kudla like heat waves off pavement.
The Ohio State senior defensive lineman could hardly contain himself while talking about the 2005 season, which begins today when players report for fall camp. The first practice is Monday.
"I’m excited about it; I can’t wait," he said. "It’s going to be a good year."
As he spoke, Kudla flexed his rather substantial arm muscles, almost absentmindedly, as if to crush an imagined opponent.
"Last year, we kind of went through looking for an identity, and as soon as we found it toward the end of the year, we hit things on the head and we got it rolling really good," he said.
"And that built up momentum, and that’s what we’re carrying on. Let’s keep it going; let’s not just stop where we left off. We’ve got to hit the field this first game where we left off last year. That’s our main thing."
Kudla is not alone in his belief that the Buckeyes’ 5-1 second half of 2004 was something on which to build. They were 3-3 when they boomeranged, discovering a high-powered spread offense and transforming into an aggressive, attacking defense.
"We really finished the season strong," center Nick Mangold said, "and we’ve been working to keep that fever going."
Momentum can be a powerful force. And the Buckeyes finished 2004 with their two best games: a 37-21 victory over Michigan and a 33-7 laugher over Oklahoma State in the Alamo Bowl.
But a note of caution: Carrying momentum from one season into the next is not an automatic transmission. It’s manual, requiring work to shift gears.
"I think you can have (momentum) help you if you use it properly," coach Jim Tressel said. "The thing you have to fight is, don’t use it to our disadvantage. It’s not a freebie. It’s not, ‘Hey, we played good at the end; we’re going to play good at the beginning.’ That’s not a free pass."
As an example, Tressel said the 2001 and 2002 teams used end-ofseason momentum well to carry into the next. But the finish of the 2003 squad, which beat Kansas State in the Fiesta Bowl, didn’t translate as well into last season.
Although the Buckeyes began 3-0 and were ranked in the top 10, they didn’t look pretty in the process. The 0-3 crash to start the Big Ten season was dramatic.
"I don’t know that we knew truly what we had to do to compete for the course of a whole year in our league," Tressel said.
The big difference, he said, was experience. The 2003 team had many returning starters. Last season, OSU had to replace 13 starters, including a quarterback and the bulk of its offensive and defensive lines.
"I don’t know that you can translate momentum with different guys," Tressel said.
And — no surprise here — that’s really at the heart of the optimism. Eighteen returning starters will check into University Plaza Hotel today, the first step toward what some observers believe could be a championship season.
"We have all the makings of going out and having a good year," Kudla said. "I just want to get to camp, get going, and get this machine rolling."
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I remain optimistic. Period. To go undefeated in the Big Ten, you also need a little luck. Texas, Iowa, Penn State away, TSUN away, it won't be easy but it can be done by this team if they want it badly enough. After two years of being dragged through every manner of manure possible, I think they do. Badly.
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If the Bucks win the first 5...I don't see anyone stopping them from reaching the Rose Bowl.
All questions should be answered in those games...and the momentum will be very important going into the second half.
All questions should be answered in those games...and the momentum will be very important going into the second half.
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crazybuckfan40
Head Coach
I like the fact that most of the ? marks are on offense, because defense wins championships, and we know we have a great defense team.
For the qb situation, we have two vetrans with a year of experience under the belt and both have played in pressure situations. I will let Jt make the call here.
For the rbs, man we have some talent, with not a lot of experience, but lucky for us, it is the rb that don't have a lot of experience b/c that is one position where you don't need a whole lot of college experience to be good. Look at all the young guys coming in and playing early.
For the boundary corner, we will be fine with our scheme as long as they keep the play in front of them and tackle.
Also the big thing is that we have 3 game changers on our team.
Ginn, Holmes, and Hawk can change games just by being on the field.
Teams have to stay away from these guys and that puts us at an advantage.
For the qb situation, we have two vetrans with a year of experience under the belt and both have played in pressure situations. I will let Jt make the call here.
For the rbs, man we have some talent, with not a lot of experience, but lucky for us, it is the rb that don't have a lot of experience b/c that is one position where you don't need a whole lot of college experience to be good. Look at all the young guys coming in and playing early.
For the boundary corner, we will be fine with our scheme as long as they keep the play in front of them and tackle.
Also the big thing is that we have 3 game changers on our team.
Ginn, Holmes, and Hawk can change games just by being on the field.
Teams have to stay away from these guys and that puts us at an advantage.
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