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'12 PA RB Rushel Shell (Pitt Signee; Transfer to West Virginia)

Outstanding;1731847; said:
Wow, thanks for the insight. Somebody today posted on the BN free boards that he has had some off the field issues, is that what you are insinuating?

No, I think the issue is that with Ball, Dunn, Byars and Shell all being anywhere from likely to extremely likely to be Buckeyes, if you offer all four you may end up with four RBs in a small class (unless you say no to one, which isn't how Ohio State rolls), something that Ohio State probably doesn't want to do.
 
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Buckeye86;1731888; said:
No, I think the issue is that with Ball, Dunn, Byars and Shell all being anywhere from likely to extremely likely to be Buckeyes, if you offer all four you may end up with four RBs in a small class (unless you say no to one, which isn't how Ohio State rolls), something that Ohio State probably doesn't want to do.

I bet they would say "no." If we offer all 4, becuse we view all 4 to be equal, then we'd tell them first 2 are in (this year's runningbacks are too good to take just 1). I think Ball gets his offer first, and probably alrady has it, and we get him, then we take one more. Ohio State will tell recruits "no" if we are too full. We are not above doing that.
 
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Buckeyecty4;1732147; said:
No offense to Dunn or Byers, but I feel like Ball and Shell are on a totally different level.

This...

Byars isn't even in the discussion, IMO. It blows me away that people are talking about him and an offer...mainly because of his who his father, the fact that he camped at OSU and the fact he would like to be a Buckeye. There are over 250,000 high school seniors each year and around 2,500 D1 scholarships available, which means you typically need to be in the top .5-1% of the nation at your position to get a D1 offer...and probably in the top .01% if you want an offer from OSU. And similarly to what Buckeyecty4 said, I think Shell and Ball are clearly two of the better backs in the Midwest for 2012.

Having said that, I think Dunn can possibly play at OSU...and why leave the state if you don't have to. Shell is great talent and it's easy to get excited about the fact that he idolizes Pryor, but at the end of the day that probably doesn't matter a whole lot to JT and the staff.
 
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BGriffBuckeye;1731967; said:
I bet they would say "no." If we offer all 4, becuse we view all 4 to be equal, then we'd tell them first 2 are in (this year's runningbacks are too good to take just 1). I think Ball gets his offer first, and probably alrady has it, and we get him, then we take one more. Ohio State will tell recruits "no" if we are too full. We are not above doing that.

I agree that we are not above telling a recruit no.

The situation I think Ohio State is above is throwing out all 4 offers, all 4 accepting more or less on the spot, and then later revoking one or more of the offers to make room for someone else.

I think a much more likely scenario, as you pointed out, is throwing out offers one at a time. If you offer Ball and Dunn first and they both accept that leads to the situation where Shell might not even get an offer.

That being said, as Wade and others just pointed out, when looking at Dunn and Shell the staff might be considering the benefits of offering an in-state kid vs. an out-of-state kid as much as they consider talent, so how the staff handles that situation is largely up in the air.
 
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Buckeye86;1732321; said:
I agree that we are not above telling a recruit no.

The situation I think Ohio State is above is throwing out all 4 offers, all 4 accepting more or less on the spot, and then later revoking one or more of the offers to make room for someone else.

I think a much more likely scenario, as you pointed out, is throwing out offers one at a time. If you offer Ball and Dunn first and they both accept that leads to the situation where Shell might not even get an offer.

That being said, as Wade and others just pointed out, when looking at Dunn and Shell the staff might be considering the benefits of offering an in-state kid vs. an out-of-state kid as much as they consider talent, so how the staff handles that situation is largely up in the air.
Agreed. This was really my intent when suggesting that Shell may not get an offer. It's not to suggest that Shell isn't a great talent, just that the staff may move on others first and they may accept before the staff gets to Shell.
 
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The Buckeye Times: SHELL COULD BE A TOP TARGET FOR BUCKEYES IN THE CLASS OF 2012
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SHELL COULD BE A TOP TARGET FOR BUCKEYES IN THE CLASS OF 2012

ALIQUIPPA, Pa. — Hopewell (Pa.) tailback Rushel Shell has rushed for more than 4,000 yards and 46 touchdowns during his high school career.

Putting up those type of numbers in a football hotbed like western Pennsylvania seems daunting to say the least. However, when you take into account that Shell is only halfway through his high school career, the thought of 4,000 yards just leaves you shaking your head in total disbelief.

The 5-foot-11, 210 pound junior broke onto the scene as a freshman at Hopewell, rushing for more than 1,500 yards and 14 scores, while earning Pittsburgh Post Gazette "Fabulous 22" honors.

After making his presence known in a huge way during his freshman campaign, Shell followed it up with an even bigger explosion in 2009, totaling 2,465 yards and 32 touchdowns on a ridiculous 9.9 yards per carry.

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"Ohio State is my No. 1 school as of right now," Shell said. "Ohio State has a great atmosphere and always has a great team.

"I'm an Ohio State fan."
 
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