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any guitar players here?

FWIW, I know this is a bump of very old thread; however, if you are currently in the market for a new guitar, be aware there are "fake" ones out there too.

Authorities seize 3,000 fake Gibson guitars in Southern California worth $18 million​

“These guitars may look real to you, but trust and believe they are not,” said Africa Bell, port director for the Los Angeles-Long Beach Seaport.

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Thousands of counterfeit Gibson electric guitars were seized in a multi-agency investigation at the Los Angeles-Long Beach Seaport.

The 3,000 fake guitars, if real, would be valued at about $18 million, according to authorities.

“These guitars… may look real to you, but trust and believe they are not,” said Africa Bell, port director for the Los Angeles-Long Beach Seaport. “They are fraudulent, and they are part of a massive attempt to con the American consumer.”

Bell said the fakes were likely destined for the e-commerce market.

At the news conference in Carson, some of the guitars made to resemble products by the legendary guitar-maker were displayed on tables. Others remained in boxes stacked at least 6 feet high inside the warehouse.

Authorities called it the largest counterfeit musical instrument seizure on record.

“This is a big deal,” said attorney Andrea Bates, who represents Gibson Inc. “They were able to facilitate to identify and to seize $18 million worth of counterfeit guitars. This is something that’s incredibly significant. We are thrilled that they have worked with us and helped take these counterfeit guitars off the market.”

Beth Heidt, Gibson’s chief marketing officer, said the fake guitars were easily recognized by experts. They also would be spotted by any professional guitar player familiar with Gibson’s craftsmanship, she said.
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2024 College Football Polls

Coaches poll would have 4 SEC teams in with two of them hosting.

Byes: Oregon, Texas, SMU, Boise

1st Round
Arizona State @ PSU
Bama @ND
IU @UGA
Ohio State @Tenn

Three chances to move up: Clemson beats SMU, Oregon blows out PSU and Texas blows out UGA.
SMU losing wouldn‘t help, there will be 4 Conference champs at 1-4 and at least 1 Conference Champ seeded below tOSU no matter what happens.

Hopefully the committee will realize what the pollsters haven’t, that tOSU has a better body of work than the Vols. But the ESPN influence could use the polls to justify Tennessee hosting.
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Ohio State vs. Pittsburgh, Nov. 29 @ 230pm ET, Peacock

Coulnd't watch it was on stupid peacock and forgot it was even on so I just looked at score and play by play that is one awful loss.

UP 4 with 10 seconds left and lose. Got to make your FT's which OSU did not down the stretch.

Inexplicable loss.
Peacock cut out on us at the end and I couldn't watch the end (turns out fortunately), but I am sick of network apps picking up sporting events and not being able to deliver. And it was not my internet, everything else was working fine. So frustrating.

From what I could tell, Pitt has a pretty damn good team this year. Yes we made mistakes towards the end, but most games that is a win imo. But it is super frustrating because it should have been a win and a good early win for the Tourney resume.
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Big XII (official thread of whining, and homely herpes-having’ hos)

Expanding the playoff to 12 was a mistake.
But on second thought, without a 12-team playoff, the Bucks would be headed to some funky bowl game minus all their draft-eligible players. After last year's performance in the The Who Cares Bowl, I want nothing to do with that.
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Game Thread tCun at tOSU, THE GAME, Sat. Nov. 30, 12pm ET, FOX

If you score 10 points total in a game and you're going to lose 95% of them. We had the best overall roster in college football, spent $20 million on players, hired an "offensive" guru, had two of the best RBs in the country, had the best overall WR group in the country, and we still only score 10 points against a Michigan defense that was 24th overall.
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