RuGettinIt said:

Don’t disagree with you @billmac91 it just seems that this is the modus operandi for this organization about every 4 or so years.

No that I’m a huge Stefanski fan but curious as to who you think they could bring in that would be a good fit?

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I'm a big Stefanski fan, but only recently think it's prob time he leaves. It sucks, because I don't think he wanted Watson, but it was shoved down his throat. Once they started having poor seasons, he lost more and more decision making, including having to give up play-calling.

The version of football they played at the start of his tenure in Cleveland, is not what they're doing anymore. I think it's obvious he's lost the interest of the lockrroom as well, so it's prob better for both sides to move on after this season.

In terms of who they bring in, it's tricky bc whoever they offer, will likely have multiple choices and Cleveland almost assuredly has to be option C or D. From the DeShaun Watson trade, to taking (2) QB's in the last draft...the fingerprints of meddling ownership that forces decision making you is all over Haslam.

My pipe-dream would be for the Browns to go all-in on a rebuild, trade our top players for draft assets, and then bring a younger guy in who can connect with this generation. Again, absolute pipe dream, but I'd want Jeff Hafley....has connections to Cleveland as an assistant, obviously had success at OSU, built up BC until he got tired of NIL in college, and has been a stud as DC for Packers. And he was an elite recruiter in college which may not mean much in NFL bc you don't recruit, but it shows how he's able to connect with younger people.

I'm not trying to take shots at former Buckeyes or just belittle current Browns players......but Denver couldn't wait to unload Jerry Jeudy...he was a lockerroom cancer. Ole Miss had no issue with Quinshon Judkins transferring to OSU....they were tired of his attitude and Lane Kiffin and Jaxon Dart basically helped him pack his bags. We know the drama around Sheduer and his family (and admittedly, I'm rooting for him, it's just, did Cleveland need the extra storylines in the lockerroom?). We know the history with DeShaun Watson... Isiah Bond is another one.......

There's prob 3 more examples I could cite, but the bottom line is Cleveland has been trying to accumulate talent while turning a blind eye towards culture. And honestly, when the face of the franchise was supposed to be DeShaun Watson, it's probably hard to hold anyone accountable anyways.

It's a mess and they should absolutely be looking to blow this roster up and accumulate as much draft capital as possible. Refocus on playoff contention after Watson's contract is completely off the books.

And BTW, that'd require fans and ownership to give the new HC some breathing room because they're going to be pretty rough until 2027-2028ish if executed properly.

But to earlier posters point, I'm not even sure why I give it this much attention....they won't do any of the above and we'll be having the same conversation next year.

The 3 blocks don't count how many he altered either. Hell of a game

Agree with most of the above - He's proven to get the 'jimmies and the joes', now he has to accomplish the 'Xs and the Os'. But remember, he's got a plethora of assistant coaches on the bench with him, and mayhaps some of this falls on them for non-performance, or mediocre performance. I know, everything falls on Diebs, as it should, but results should dictate more and better financial support. PS, anyone know how the attendance is, so far this year, for men's and woman's basketball?

Agreed. Protect the cash flow, invest to keep that flowing, and look around to see where to invest the excess to gain the largest returns. That's corporate economics 101. Can certainly apply to college sports, but without that certitude of the returns. Hope that the NIL that went to mens basketball last year, was kept after the Duke and Kentucky xfers left after mediocre years. Guess Diebs has to whip the Buckeyes home in the Dance to achieve a 'raise' in NIL funding. Results begats more $, or somesuch.

Truly believe that we saw the 'coming out' of Bynum. Thornton did what he does...and does it cool as a cucumber. Don't see any extra effort, but he's always in the right place. Bynum added a dimension to the offense. A follow-up slammer, is something longed for, but not readily seen from the Buckeyes. (Unless it's from the other team). Again, WVA was hitting 3's from incredible places, and tOSU was bungling bunnies all night. But, on the positive side, tOSU was making free throws! Like a team should. And tOSU showed some heart. Devin playing most of second half with four fouls, AND staying in the game. Huge. Liked the Tilly/Knowles substitution, early and often, keeping them fresh. Mobley did his share, but made some unfortunate, head-scratching fouls throughout. Anyway, on to the next. Look at the standings, and the B10 has more than several teams ranked, so far this year. Go Bucks!

Well, these tune-up games are designed for what Bestbuck notes. Work on chemistry, get the offensive/defensive schemes some play, and have a bit of fun. Yeah, league will be a grind, but that's only because the B10 is so very strong on the women's side. FWIW, most of these 'body-bag' games are made up of people tOSU wouldn't look at twice. And coach isn't a center-centric kinda coach. He's made his bones with small, good shotting guards, and full-court press. Elsa is gaining confidence, and the blondie is working hard as well. Still getting out-rebounded, and remember, Jaloni, and the other sweet shooting guards ain't-a-gonna make 'em all. Sooo, need some tall timber to crash the boards (offensive as well). And if can't get to it, let those small, quick guards fall back against opponent's fast break. Remember, going from guard to guard position is a whole lot shorter than frontcourt to frontcourt, both distance and timewise.

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Theyve completely gotten away from the TEAM way they were playing early last year and devolved into what had made the NBA unwatchable until playoff time. Somebody wake me if that ever changes

Urban has been there, has mentored Day through it, and he’s seen what can happen with an ego-check loss.

2008: Gators loses to Ole Miss
2014: Ohio State loses to Va Tech
2024: Ohio State loses to scUM

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football banquet was last night, my son earned his varsity letter, academic OL team MVP (perfect 4.0) - and is on the "team" that was submitted to academic all ohio (team GPA was 3.97!)

Gonna give it another rewatch. I'm a glutton for suffering.

Julia Child’s coq au vin with parsley potatoes.

10-4, in this economy?

Jaxbuck said:

Ahead of his time as in 3 true outcome guy > singles hitters (normal singles hitters, not Boggs)

And for the record, 20.8 of his career 25.g fWAR was delivered during his 7 years as a Red. 2.97 WAR per year with a high of 5.3 in '04 and people were bitching about strikeouts and him jogging to the outfield while we had the worst pitching in the league.

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I mean, he’s no Mark Grace either. I get where you are coming from, btw. I mean, I take Dunn all day everyday over Dave Kingman.

calibuck said:

Naw, one of the first things Trump did is put the OK on shale drilling. Before Biden closed it down, the USA was a net exporter of oil. Reduce the supply, prices go up. Suppliers see that the USA needed oil, and lo and behold, the price went up. Out here in Cali, hard to tell, as the gas tax is so high, never certain whether the 'temporary' taxes are over, or if the base price is being lowered. But have seen some of the off-brands selling for less than $4. Not by much, around $3.80.

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ScriptOhio said:

Denver Broncos stadium: Franchise announces plan for new retractable roof home that will open by 2031

Denver has been in the same open-air stadium since 2001

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Denver Broncos stadium: Franchise announces plan for new retractable roof home that will open by 2031​

Denver has been in the same open-air stadium since 2001​

The Denver Broncos announced on Tuesday that they plan to build a new retractable roof stadium with Burnham Yard, a historic district of Denver, as the preferred site. The project, which will be privately funded by the Walton-Penner Family Ownership Group, has a targeted completion date that would allow it to open in time for the 2031 season.

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Wow a successful team/ownership privately funding a stadium. Look at that Ohio.

Recollect that every tOSU coach made a stop at St. Henry, to recruit their best and finest. These days, maybe not so much. But in it's day, St. Henry was every bit a viable pipeline as Glenville. Glenville has survived, and continues to produce D-1 players (most of whom matriculate to tOSU), versus St. Henry, seems not so much. Have no doubt that alot/many of the St. Henry grads get football scholarships, just not so many get one from tOSU. Just my opinion, and being a slave to recruiting.

Zona is hammering Bama in Birmingham. Ruthless thumping. Flawless ball in the 2nd half.