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2019 Week 11 CFB Open Thread

Watched a couple of games that were on during Bama-LSU so they weren't being followed real closely, but there were these tidbits:

Kansas State returned a kickoff for a TD against Texas. It was K-State's 50th punt/kickoff TD return since 2005. Bama was in second place with 31, but that probably didn't count the one that had happened a little earlier in the afternoon for Bama. That's an unbelievable margin between first and second place.

USC's Kedon Slovis threw for 297 yards and 4 TDs against Arizona State - in the first quarter. USC barely hung on, 31-26.
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NCAA does not like states with betting

You could be betting on Ohio State football next year — and it would be legal

Buckeye fans in the Horseshoe next fall might be able to pull out their smartphones and bet on whether the team picks up a first down when facing a fourth-and-1.

Sports wagering isn’t legal in Ohio yet, but some state legislators are betting that a bill will make it to the governor’s desk before the legislature leaves next spring.

But the biggest barrier to letting people bet on football games isn’t whether to include collegiate teams; everyone The Dispatch spoke to agreed that is inevitable. And it’s not about online betting; two bills pending in the legislature would let fans use their phones to bet from anywhere in the state.

The split is whether to put the Ohio Casino Commission or the Ohio Lottery Commission in charge.

“I haven’t been persuaded yet that it should be moved to the lottery commission,” said state Sen. Sean O’Brien, D-Bazetta.

He’s a sponsor of Senate Bill 111, which would give regulatory authority to the casino commission. It would legalize sports books at Ohio’s 11 casinos and racinos and collect a 6.25% tax on their profits.

That would be one of the lowest rates in the country: New Jersey taxes sports betting at 8.5%, and Pennsylvania levies a whopping 36%.

In contrast, House Bill 194 would levy a 10% tax and dedicate the revenue for education and gambling-addiction programs.

Under either plan, the money coming into Ohio’s coffers would be minimal. O’Brien said the estimates he has seen are $8 million to $12 million annually.

That’s about on par with the pace set by Indiana in its first month of wagering, in September: The state reaped $813,000, according to data released by the Indiana Gaming Commission.

Ohio’s biennial budget is about $69 billion, and Columbus City Schools spends more than $1 billion a year. That makes sports betting revenue equivalent to the state finding $20 in its winter coat pocket.

But Rep. Dave Greenspan, a sponsor of the House bill, said pushing out black-market betting is just as important to him as any tax revenue Ohio might received from sports betting.

“We have to recognize that this is happening illegally,” the Westlake Republican said.

Illegal phone apps for sports betting don’t direct people to gambling-addiction services if they suddenly increase the number or dollar amounts of their bets, he said. Apps don’t report suspicious betting activity to universities or professional sports leagues. And their companies, which are often located offshore, aren’t subject to oversight.

“Twenty other states have legalized sports gambling” in the year since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a federal law limiting it to a handful of states, Greenspan told his colleagues during a House hearing on Thursday. Ohio, he said, is losing out.

But that doesn’t mean he’s going to compromise on certain parts of his bill. He obtained a June opinion from the Ohio Legislative Service Commission that classified sports gambling as a game of chance that could be treated as a lottery.

That would open the door to sports books at about 1,200 fraternal and veterans organizations and 3,000 bars where lottery terminals already exist.

“It’s no secret that as our membership grows older, it has become increasingly difficult to attract younger veterans to join,” American Legion Department of Ohio coordinator Jermaine Ferguson told the House panel. “We believe sports gaming would appeal to younger veterans and would help increase participation in our organizations.”

O’Brien’s bill, in contrast, wouldn’t allow that. The Warren-area Democrat said he has concerns about the costs and feasibility of regulating thousands of sports books across the state.

Senate President Larry Obhof, R-Medina, expressed similar concerns to The Dispatch in June.

Where both Greenspan and O’Brien can agree, however, is that betting on college sports should be legal if Ohio hopes to lures bettors away from the black market.

“Let’s be honest,” O’Brien said. “We know collegiate games are going to be bet on whether we put them in or not.”

Ohio’s public universities and more than 50 of the state’s private colleges have said they oppose letting people bet on college sports; so does the NCAA. They all contend that legalizing betting on student-athletes could undermine the integrity of games and jeopardize the welfare of players.

Both bills also leave a lot of details up to the regulating agencies. They don’t specify whether bets on certain sports, such as club competition on college campuses, would be permissible.

“We’ve intentionally left some things vague as we are trying to get through this,” O’Brien said.

One reason is that regulations can be changed faster than statutes. A regulator, O’Brien said, could move more quickly to permit or ban betting on e-sports, for example, than could lawmakers in the Statehouse.

The other part is because he’s open to input from other legislators, even Greenspan.

“We’ve been working on this for well over a year. ... I think we will get to an agreement, “O’Brien said. “That’s a safe bet.”

Entire article: https://www.buckeyextra.com/news/20...te-football-next-year---and-it-would-be-legal
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#16 Ohio State vs. UMass Lowell, Sunday, November 10 @ 4:00pm, ESPNU

Really like how deep this team is. A little concerned about the dodgy FT shooting, but it's only two games. Hopefully they get that straightened out.

Not sure how deep we are atm with Andre and Musa out. There are only 7 guys I am semi-comfortable with being on the court in a close game and that's CJ, DJ, Duane, Luther, EJ, Young, and Kaleb. Question mark on Gaffney if the production he flashed against UML can translate against a bigger and better opponent and if can reduce his turnovers and play better on D. Hard pass on Ahrens and Diallo right now.
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Name 1 player

Pretty good list...

For me, I would start by looking at where were the weaknesses under each coach.
The biggest weakness for any of them, IMHO, was defensive line under Earl Bruce.

While Auburn had Bo Jackson, we had Keith Byars. Jackson would have been a step up from Byars IMO, but not a huge one.

Quick, name the defensive linemen that Ohio State had while Tennessee had Reggie White.

Time's up.

If we'd had Reggie White in front of Chris Spielman and Pepper Johnson...
Yes, but a 1 2 punch of Bears and Jackson is guaranteed an Nc(or 2).
And White played while Bruce was coach, and I was trying to pick a player for each coach. If that were the case, I would’ve also picked Deion Sanders while Cooper was coaching or Adrien Peterson in conjunction with Vick under Tressel
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WR Brian Robiskie (Official Thread)

SKULL SESSION: CHASE YOUNG UPDATE COMING THIS WEEK, CJ SAUNDERS WILL SEEK A MEDICAL REDSHIRT AND TROY SMITH HAD UNIQUE MOTIVATION FOR BRIAN ROBISKIE

TROY TELLS HOW IT IS.
Troy Smith was an absolute legend on the field, but it turns out he was pretty legendary in the huddle as well.

Ohio State's most recent Heisman winner sat down with ESPN to tell a quick story about some unique motivational tactics that he used to get then-freshman receiver Brian Robiskie to stay on his damn feet after making a catch.

TL;DR, he told him he sucked.

From Troy Smith, via and ESPN video:

"In 2006, Brian Robiskie and I would get into it a lot, because he would make tremendous catches, but every time he caught the ball he would just get tackled. And at that time, I had a different way of motivating him.

I immediately rolled my eyes at him. I looked at him and he's like 'What?' and I'm like 'You know what? Just get the f*** out of the game.' He's PISSED at me.

But now, as he catches this ball, he makes a guy miss, does his thing, spins a little bit and then runs probably about 18 to 20 yards. The crowd's going crazy.

I'm trying to get the play and as I'm looking over to Tress', here comes this 6-4, lightskinned kid and he's like Tasmanian Devil, he's like spittin' 'Did you see that, motherf*****? You think that's a run after catch? Now should I get out of the game?'

And you know what? We ready now."

Hey, the results speak for themselves. I guess there's more to being a quarterback than setting passing records.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...redshirt-troy-smith-motivation-brian-robiskie
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BTN AP poll: Minnesota up to No. 7, No. 24 Indiana ranked for first time since 1994

AP poll: Minnesota up to No. 7, No. 24 Indiana ranked for first time since 1994
BTN.com staff via Big Ten Network

Ohio State is No. 2 and Minnesota is up to No. 7 in the latest AP poll, released Sunday. But, perhaps, the biggest Big Ten development in poll is that No. 24 Indiana's ranked for the first time since 1994.

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Maryland Terrapins (turtle)

And THAT'S why you don't burn a kid from your in state power house HS. They know it was you Maryland.
reading the twitter replies and the reddit thread about the de-commitment, i'm a bit surprised at the lack of people who have put 2 and 2 together. announcing that decision mid-game is some low-down dirty disrespect, but when you find out what school he attends, well...

hope locksley's local recruiting relationships take a hit as a result.
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