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LGHL Comparing former OSU QBs running abilities to C.J. Stroud

Comparing former OSU QBs running abilities to C.J. Stroud
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Stroud claims that his job is to throw the ball. Well, once upon a time there was a QB nicknamed “12 Gauge” who still managed to use his legs...

I think it is widely accepted by now that C.J. Stroud is known for his right arm rather than his legs. It is becoming increasingly obvious how much the freshman quarterback tries to avoid running— Stroud has five rushing yards on the season. FIVE. That number is astounding to me and got me thinking: what were the running abilities of Ohio State’s last few QBs compared to Stroud?

Justin Fields (2019-2020)

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Fields isn’t really comparable to Stroud since he is the definition of a dual-threat quarterback, but let’s take a bit of a dive into his rushing capabilities anyway.

Fields rushed for a total of 867 yards during his two year stint at OSU, averaging four yards per attempt. He was (and still is) the king of scrambling and staying cool once the pocket collapsed. He was quick, agile and not afraid to dive for a first down.

When comparing Fields and Stroud stature-wise, they’re almost identical. Both are listed at 6-foot-3, and Fields is actually about 10 pounds heavier (227 pounds) than Stroud (218 pounds). So, it’s not that Stroud is a lot taller or heavier than Fields and physically can’t run as well. In fact, he has a great build to do so.

What makes Fields such a great runner? He is very in tune with his body, which was probably a result of him playing the middle infield during his baseball career through high school. Therefore, transferring that to the football field was probably fairly natural to him. When he sees an opening for him to move, he takes it with little to no hesitation.

Dwayne Haskins (2018)

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Now for a QB that is the total opposite of Fields — Dwayne Haskins. He was a top five pro-style quarterback coming out of high school, and that translated right into his one year of greatness at Ohio State.

Haskins is definitely more similar to Stroud than Fields is, but both QBs are at opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes to running the ball, with Stroud in the middle. Obviously Haskins is solely known for his absolute cannon of an arm (remember his 50 passing TDs). He rushed for 108 yards during his entire starting season.

That stat is slightly misleading, however, because the NCAA counts sack yardage against QBs’ rushing totals (which doesn’t really make sense, but whatever). So, without counting those yards subtracted, he had 215 rushing yards on 59 carries.

This should demonstrate that even the most pro-style QB that Ohio State has had in the past decade still ran a decent amount; AKA more than five yards. Yes, Haskins is most definitely known for his passing skills, but he still was mobile enough to use his legs when necessary.

J.T. Barrett and Cardale Jones (2014-2017), (2014 Three Game King, 2015)

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Again, two extremely different skillsets between Barrett and Jones. Barrett rushed for 3,263 yards during his collegiate career, while Jones earned the nickname of “12 Gauge.” However he still ran for 617 yards as a Buckeye!

Barrett is very comparable to Fields. He amassed over 9,000 passing yards while at Ohio State, in addition to the 3,000 rushing yards he racked up. Again, a true dual-threat quarterback. He was very tricky for defenses to figure out, especially on the ground. While he was a good passer, he struggled with accuracy. His legs were definitely one of the key parts of his game.

Jones on the other hand is more like Haskins. He was an absolute gunslinger, totaling about 2,300 passing yards in 23 games played. At 6-foot-5, 249 pounds, Jones still found a way to move surprisingly well for a man as big as he.


Do you see the point I am trying to get across here? After hearing Stroud’s response when asked why he doesn’t run: “If my job was to run the ball, I’d be a running back or something. I throw the ball for a living,” I was intrigued to see what former quarterbacks’ stats might have to display in return.

Moral of the story: Stroud is going to have to run more than five yards this season.

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LGHL You’re Nuts: Which former Ohio State player has been the best in the NFL this year?

You’re Nuts: Which former Ohio State player has been the best in the NFL this year?
Brett Ludwiczak
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Your (almost) daily dose of good-natured, Ohio State banter.

With the ninth week of the NFL season wrapping up on Monday, we are now halfway through the NFL season. All of the teams in the league have played at least eight games this year, with some playing nine games already because their bye week falls later in the season. This is the first season that NFL teams will play 17 regular season games.

Currently, the NFL is littered with former Ohio State Buckeyes. There are almost 50 Ohio State alums in the NFL. Almost every team in the NFL has at least one former Buckeye on their roster. Every week, there are numerous Ohio State players that make a huge impact on the action in the professional ranks.

Since we are at the halfway point of the season, now is a good time to try and figure out who has been the best Ohio State alum in the NFL thus far. While a lot of the consideration will go to the player’s performance on the field, we are also going to factor in how their performance has impacted the success of the team.

Today’s question: Which former Ohio State player has been the best in the NFL so far this year?


We’d love to hear your choices. Either respond to us on Twitter at @Landgrant33 or leave your choice in the comments.

Brett’s answer: Sam Hubbard - DE, Cincinnati Bengals


When you think of Ohio State defensive ends in the NFL, Hubbard isn’t the first one that pops into your mind. Coming into the season, a lot of the attention when it came to former Buckeye defensive ends was focused on Chase Young. Unfortunately, Young is going through a sophomore slump, registering just 1.5 sacks this year.

While Hubbard is behind San Francisco’s Nick Bosa when it comes to sacks this season, what Hubbard is doing feels a little more impressive. Prior to the year, not much was expected from the Cincinnati defense. Even though the Bengals have dropped their last two games, they have played well above expectations this year, and Hubbard is a big reason for the improvement.

Hubbard is now in his fourth NFL season. If he continues to play like he has this year, Hubbard could eclipse his career-high for sacks, which came in 2019 when he notched 8.5 sacks. There might be other former Buckeyes who get more headlines this season, but what Hubbard is doing on the field and the impact that he is having on the Cincinnati defense can’t be denied.

Meredith’s answer: Nick Bosa - DE, San Francisco 49ers


What’s interesting about this question is the selection of defensive players up for consideration — which is a lot. Chief among this group is Nick Bosa who, through eight games, has totaled seven sacks and forced two fumbles.

This year is a comeback year for the younger Bosa brother. After an outstanding rookie season, he was sidelined for most of 2020 with a torn ACL. As we saw, San Francisco took a similar step back last season sans its elite pass rusher.

While San Francisco has been a bit of a disappointment in one of the most competitive divisions in pro football, Bosa and Co. are heading into a showcase MNF matchup against a Rams offensive line that, in its most recent outing, struggled mightily against the Titans.

For the record, I desperately wanted to say Denzel Ward, but he’s had some ups and downs this year. Recency bias has him on the upswing, especially after his incredible 99-yard touchdown after picking off Joe Burrow.

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DB Tyreke Johnson (transfer to Nebraska)

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Tyreke Johnson made his Husker debut in the win over Fordham.
https://huskers.com/sports/football/roster/tyreke-johnson/43321

So far this season it looks like he's only played in the Fordham game.

Through injuries or other reasons, Tyreke Johnson and Nadab Joseph haven't factored in much this season.
https://247sports.com/college/nebra...sher-Myles-Farmer-Deontai-Williams-173513131/

He might have had some kind of injury and/or other issues too.
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Week 9 Games Discussion

You’re off my Christmas Card List Systems_ID
:lol: I missed this.

Sorry man, I’ve been burned by UGA too many times. Their defense looks amazing like I said but we’ve seen offenses torch amazing defenses before and the offense looks so pedestrian at times it’s worrisome.

Maybe this is what it feels like to be a UGA fan.
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Religious argument removed from game thread

what kind of a supreme being steps in and helps decide who wins and who loses in football games?
What kind of supreme being lets people post their religious beliefs in a game thread? Not this one, that's for damned sure.

If you enjoy living in this universe, please follow the rules.
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Little Brother

Youngest of 17 so I think the 'younger brother' was just awesome
9 girls, 8 boys.. in a very aggressive household with way too many alphas

Terrorized the neighborhood as a result of being 0-114 fights inside the house
maybe 1-113... was getting hammered by older bro.. threw hot coffee in his face
when he grabbed his face I hit him with a shot with everything I had... and ran like hell
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Week 8 Games Discussion

Watching another game from last week between two bad teams, NC State and Cryami.

NC St got the ball near midfield, down by 1 with about 3 and a half minutes left. They threw the bomb, incomplete, on first down, then failed to get a first down and turned it over on downs. Even if the bomb had worked, they would have taken the lead too soon.

So then Miami converts a first down with a running clock and 2:32 to play with NC St out of timeouts. They snap it under 2 minutes and hand the ball off on a running play, risking a fumble. After that, they took two knees to end the game. But for over 30 seconds after they got the first down, Manny Diaz didn’t realize that he could take a knee on all 3 downs to end the game. WTF was he thinking about while the clock ran, his postgame press conference or late-night dinner? He’s in his third year as a head coach and making over $3 million a year, and it takes him over 30 seconds to realize he can kill the clock with kneel-downs?

Earlier in the 4th quarter Cryami had run into the FG kicker on a miss, allowing NC St to get 3 points on the second attempt. But that was just returning the favor, since earlier in the game NC St had jumped offside before Cryami snapped a FG attempt, which led to a TD instead of a FG.

A few examples of how not to win, from a couple of ACC coaches. Doeren is in his 9th year, also making over $3 million.
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