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Zwick vs. Smith (official thread)

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Oneshot said:
Seriously?? That's a joke, right?

That's like being the older brother in a 4 person family. Your younger brother misbehaves and is put on timeout. Your parents then proceed to tell EVERYONE that they think your younger brother is more promising than you.

That is demeaning in every sense of the word.
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which is when the older brother can either pout or step up.
 
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A) At this point, the OZone and BNuts reports are totally contradictory. OZone has TS as the starter for Texas. BNuts says TS has to earn his way back. Can someone post Daniels actual comments?

B) If OZone has it correct, this is explosive. TS is the man. It's his job to lose. For myself, I'd be happy with either TS or JZ, but I've had a decided lean toward JZ. To declare the presumptive starter this soon is astounding.

C) Whether BNuts has it correct or not, it appears that TS has learned important lessons, has been appropriately humbled by his experiences, and is well on his way to maturing into a man.
 
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According to quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels, if things simply go the way they have been going, Smith would probably get the starting nod at quarterback against the Longhorns.
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This does not say Smith will start the Texas game. This says that if nothing changes, Smith will probably be the starter. That sounds more like a challenge than a criciticism aimed towards Zwick.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
eh.....who cares. i wont be watching on TV :biggrin:
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Envy, undiluted envy -- wish I could be certain of that -- this tOSU vs UT game is going to be one hot ticket. Had feelers out -- but no sellers.

As for Frito's take on this -- in part:
Or the ABC crew? The Buckeyes' share of the pre-game show will now be devoted to last year's scandals. With Zwick as the announced starter (even if he only plays the first series) at least there would have been some footage of him playing through pain to beat Ok St. Now, the entire pre-game, 12 solid minutes before a huge national audience, will be divided equally between Vince Young's Heisman candidacy and Troy Smith's willful, blatant violation of the most basic rule in college sports. Nice contrast.
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I personally _still_ put a higher level of trust in ABC's ability to handle the real story of that day -- the game itself. The dipshits at you know where, from Bristhole, CT are another matter entirely.

And as fromsCUM informs us the subject article on BN Premium is one or more steps removed from supporting a premature verbal ejaculation by Daniels.
 
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sandgk said:
I personally _still_ put a higher level of trust in ABC's ability to handle the real story of that day -- the game itself. The dipshits at you know where, from Bristhole, CT are another matter entirely.
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You do know that ABC is the corporate big brother to ESPiN, since they're both owned by Disney, right? They often share announcers, and are far from a separate entity.
 
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strohs said:
To you maybe (wuss :) ), but obviously not to some of us.
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So you're saying that if you put in your heart and soul effort into getting that starting job, done nothing wrong for the team except missing a couple passes, and then fight tooth and nail in the bowl game to try to prove your worth, and then your coach says that your misbehaving counterpart will get the job, you wouldn't be disheartened (to say the least)?

I don't know, maybe I was raised soft (I don't think I was), but that is just a morale killer.
 
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Oneshot said:
So you're saying that if you put in your heart and soul effort into getting that starting job, done nothing wrong for the team except missing a couple passes, and then fight tooth and nail in the bowl game to try to prove your worth, and then your coach says that your misbehaving counterpart will get the job, you wouldn't be disheartened (to say the least)?

I don't know, maybe I was raised soft (I don't think I was), but that is just a morale killer.
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Of course its a morale killer. No one is saying it isn't. I guess now we get to learn of JZ mental toughness. Can he come in and take the starting spot?
 
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FritoBandito said:
How would you feel if you were Justin Zwick today?
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It depends on what Daniels actually said. The O-zone gave a characterization, but they didn't give any quotes. If it was basically just the inverse of what Tressel said last year (If the season started today, Troy would start, but that determination is still open), then it's not that big a deal and should be taken as motivation. If, as the O-zone made it sound, he basically said that Troy has the job locked up barring a fairly drastic change, then I'd be inclined to agree with OneShot and some of the others.
 
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Envy, undiluted envy -- wish I could be certain of that -- this tOSU vs UT game is going to be one hot ticket. Had feelers out -- but no sellers.
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oh i dont have tickets yet.....but im going to the game. you hear me. IM GOING!

I'm gonna go through Elmira, into Corning, over to Erie. Then I'm gonna hit Cleveland on my way to Columbus. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!
 
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I'm going to the game too, but I miss the significance to TS vs. JZ starting....maybe it's just me.

I think Daniel's comments are a good thing. If Zwick truly needs to continue to step up his game, he needs to be told honestly. Furthermore, I don't see any reason to keep that stuff private. He didn't ridicule Zwick, he praised Smith.

It's better to tell Zwick that he needs to improve now that wait until the fall.
 
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