Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[Muck]

Also, do you think Eddie George will have my baby? I love that guy!

You have it backwards. No one on earth believes you'd be pitching in that relationship.

Why the fuck else would an 18-year old male who enjoys co-eds and civilization want to go to Penn State if he wasn't getting paid?

The barnyard sex & machete training.

 

[buckeyebri]

You're the one who trotted out the "I'll talk to my dawg at Denison" card, implying that if he's clean, the team must be. If that was not what you meant to imply, what's the point of talking to one person on the team? Is one person in any way a representative sample?

What you postulated is everyone does it and everyone is dirty even players at small schools. If I were to twist your words as you try to do mine, then I would say you are implying every player at every school is dirty. You have no facts to support this.

You've postulated that Penn State is pure as the driven snow because the NCAA hasn't camped on their doorstep as they have in Columbus. This belief that tOSU must be about as dirty as any program in the US, and that other programs in the B1G are so much cleaner, is absurd.

What I stated is Joe Pa is seen as a coach of high integrity due to the fact that in all of his years of coaching there have never been any NCAA violations or investigations, nothing more and nothing less.

 

[sepia5]

Why the fuck else would an 18-year old male who enjoys co-eds and civilization want to go to Penn State if he wasn't getting paid?

The barnyard sex & machete training.

Don't forget, if you're an athlete at Penn State, libraries are for more than studying!

 

[Bill Lucas]

May I request that we close this train wreck down and focus on the players that are playing Nebraska tonight?

There's a big game in Lincoln tonight and I, for one am tired of players and coaches that aren't part of the team or suited up dominating the conversation when we should be focused on the task at hand and the players on our team that are suiting up and who have followed the rules..

Thanks.

 

[BrutusBobcat]

Yes. I think it's going to be worse than what we are hoping for

While it's always interesting to contemplate being buggered by an agitated Ewok, I think your concerns may be overstated. The NCAA is in a tough spot. Throwing down on Ohio State when all of the violations are self-reported will do nothing but undermine the NCAA investigative process.

Think about this for a moment -- who has more resources to devote to a problem? A loaded athletic department that makes hundreds of millions a year, or the NCAA with hundreds of schools to police? Imagine five major programs at once stonewalling the NCAA rather than cooperating. Their cozy little system comes apart. They NEED schools to use their athletic department resources to self-report and do the enforcement for Indy, because there's no way in hell Indy can do it on their own.

If they slap Ohio State with serious penalties, we will be the very last major school ever to cooperate. From here on out, people will shut up, lawyer up, and the compliance departments will become oriented to defending against NCAA charges rather than monitoring and reporting.

As it stands, and as I've said before, the PR nightmare is already too costly. These sorts of violations by their nature should have been covered by the cryptic "suspended for violating team rules", and perhaps a private fine, censure or multi-game suspension for Coach Tressel. Having a major institution dragged through the media muck for nearly a year over a grand total of "violations" that add up to less than what many of us make in a few months is in-fucking-sane. Seriously. Look at the total dollar amount involved here. Now look at the television deal for one BCS conference. The NCAA is tearing the sport apart over the change in the couch when they're living in a 50 acre beachfront estate in Malibu.

And if they DO hit Ohio State hard, what do they do to Miami? Auburn? Oregon? Are they seriously going to gut every cash cow in the sport? Oregon is dead to rights on flat out buying Lache Seastrunk. Miami's troubles are better documented than anything since SMU. Auburn, if proven, may have committed the single worst recruiting violation in dollar terms ever. They've already sidelined USC for the next decade, and the dust hasn't quite settled on the aftermath of Kiffykins' quick run through Knoxville.

Given everything that's going on in the sport, laying the hammer down on one school that actually self-reported their own coach and star players, AND kept digging until it disassociated a booster and found even more violations is nuts. The NCAA needs more schools to act like OSU, not fewer. It's my opinion that if they do anything severe to Ohio State that their entire enforcement mechanism crumbles. There's simply no reason at all to self-report at that point; you just structure everything towards plausible deniability and let Yahoo! Sports do the digging.

 

[MaxBuck]

What you postulated is everyone does it and everyone is dirty even players at small schools. If I were to twist your words as you try to do mine, then I would say you are implying every player at every school is dirty. You have no facts to support this.

Bullshit. I said that players at all schools get impropers, not that all players do. Get some reading comprehension, please.

 

[jlb1705]

May I request that we close this train wreck down and focus on the players that are playing Nebraska tonight?

There's a big game in Lincoln tonight and I, for one am tired of players and coaches that aren't part of the team or suited up dominating the conversation when we should be focused on the task at hand and the players on our team that are suiting up and who have followed the rules..

Thanks.

Some people want to bury their head in the sand about the off-field stuff. Some people want to bury their head in the sand about the on-field stuff.

I don't see why this thread should be closed. If you think there are other, more compelling topics that should be discussed, then I suggest posting in those threads and making those discussions more active than this one.

 

[MaxBuck]

... it's always interesting to contemplate being buggered by an agitated Ewok ...

When you phrase it this way, it's not really funny so much as threatening. Kind of like this.

 

[Bill Lucas]

Some people want to bury their head in the sand about the off-field stuff. Some people want to bury their head in the sand about the on-field stuff.

I don't see why this thread should be closed. If you think there are other, more compelling topics that should be discussed, then I suggest posting in those threads and making those discussions more active than this one.

One thing is certain. There's way too much shit to bury our heads in the sand about this year.

Go Bucks!

 

[Poe McKnoe]

One thing is certain. There's way too much shit to bury our heads in the sand about this year.

Go Bucks!

We should bury our heads in shit?

 

[MaxBuck]

We should bury our heads in [Mark May]?

This guy dies and goes to Hell. The Devil meets him at the gates and says "There are 3 rooms here and you can choose which one you want to spend eternity in."

The Devil takes him to the first room where there were people hanging from the walls by their wrists over blazing hot coals, obviously in agony.

The Devil takes him to the second room where the people are being whipped with metal chains festooned with razor ribbon.

The Devil then opens the third door, and the man looks inside and sees loads of people sitting around, up to their waists in [Mark May], drinking cups of tea.

The man decides instantly which room he is going to spend the rest of eternity in and chooses the last room. He goes into the third room, and picks up his cup of tea.


Whereupon the Devil walks back in, saying, "Ok, guys. Tea break's over, back on your heads."

 

[buckeyebri]

Bull[Mark May].. Get some reading comprehension, please.

twist is as twist does...

 

[Mariotwins]

While it's always interesting to contemplate being buggered by an agitated Ewok, I think your concerns may be overstated. The NCAA is in a tough spot. Throwing down on Ohio State when all of the violations are self-reported will do nothing but undermine the NCAA investigative process.

Think about this for a moment -- who has more resources to devote to a problem? A loaded athletic department that makes hundreds of millions a year, or the NCAA with hundreds of schools to police? Imagine five major programs at once stonewalling the NCAA rather than cooperating. Their cozy little system comes apart. They NEED schools to use their athletic department resources to self-report and do the enforcement for Indy, because there's no way in hell Indy can do it on their own.

If they slap Ohio State with serious penalties, we will be the very last major school ever to cooperate. From here on out, people will shut up, lawyer up, and the compliance departments will become oriented to defending against NCAA charges rather than monitoring and reporting.

As it stands, and as I've said before, the PR nightmare is already too costly. These sorts of violations by their nature should have been covered by the cryptic "suspended for violating team rules", and perhaps a private fine, censure or multi-game suspension for Coach Tressel. Having a major institution dragged through the media muck for nearly a year over a grand total of "violations" that add up to less than what many of us make in a few months is in-[censored]ing-sane. Seriously. Look at the total dollar amount involved here. Now look at the television deal for one BCS conference. The NCAA is tearing the sport apart over the change in the couch when they're living in a 50 acre beachfront estate in Malibu.

And if they DO hit Ohio State hard, what do they do to Miami? Auburn? Oregon? Are they seriously going to gut every cash cow in the sport? Oregon is dead to rights on flat out buying Lache Seastrunk. Miami's troubles are better documented than anything since SMU. Auburn, if proven, may have committed the single worst recruiting violation in dollar terms ever. They've already sidelined USC for the next decade, and the dust hasn't quite settled on the aftermath of Kiffykins' quick run through Knoxville.

Given everything that's going on in the sport, laying the hammer down on one school that actually self-reported their own coach and star players, AND kept digging until it disassociated a booster and found even more violations is nuts. The NCAA needs more schools to act like OSU, not fewer. It's my opinion that if they do anything severe to Ohio State that their entire enforcement mechanism crumbles. There's simply no reason at all to self-report at that point; you just structure everything towards plausible deniability and let Yahoo! Sports do the digging.

This big block of text makes me feel better. TY

 

[scarletmike]

While it's always interesting to contemplate being buggered by an agitated Ewok, I think your concerns may be overstated. The NCAA is in a tough spot. Throwing down on Ohio State when all of the violations are self-reported will do nothing but undermine the NCAA investigative process.

Think about this for a moment -- who has more resources to devote to a problem? A loaded athletic department that makes hundreds of millions a year, or the NCAA with hundreds of schools to police? Imagine five major programs at once stonewalling the NCAA rather than cooperating. Their cozy little system comes apart. They NEED schools to use their athletic department resources to self-report and do the enforcement for Indy, because there's no way in hell Indy can do it on their own.

If they slap Ohio State with serious penalties, we will be the very last major school ever to cooperate. From here on out, people will shut up, lawyer up, and the compliance departments will become oriented to defending against NCAA charges rather than monitoring and reporting.

As it stands, and as I've said before, the PR nightmare is already too costly. These sorts of violations by their nature should have been covered by the cryptic "suspended for violating team rules", and perhaps a private fine, censure or multi-game suspension for Coach Tressel. Having a major institution dragged through the media muck for nearly a year over a grand total of "violations" that add up to less than what many of us make in a few months is in-fucking-sane. Seriously. Look at the total dollar amount involved here. Now look at the television deal for one BCS conference. The NCAA is tearing the sport apart over the change in the couch when they're living in a 50 acre beachfront estate in Malibu.

And if they DO hit Ohio State hard, what do they do to Miami? Auburn? Oregon? Are they seriously going to gut every cash cow in the sport? Oregon is dead to rights on flat out buying Lache Seastrunk. Miami's troubles are better documented than anything since SMU. Auburn, if proven, may have committed the single worst recruiting violation in dollar terms ever. They've already sidelined USC for the next decade, and the dust hasn't quite settled on the aftermath of Kiffykins' quick run through Knoxville.

Given everything that's going on in the sport, laying the hammer down on one school that actually self-reported their own coach and star players, AND kept digging until it disassociated a booster and found even more violations is nuts. The NCAA needs more schools to act like OSU, not fewer. It's my opinion that if they do anything severe to Ohio State that their entire enforcement mechanism crumbles. There's simply no reason at all to self-report at that point; you just structure everything towards plausible deniability and let Yahoo! Sports do the digging.

Gatorubet?

 

[Pheasant]

If Devier Posey had raped a bald eagle while slapping his girlfriend he would be on the field right now. I'm glad he didn't, but I can make an argument that he should have.

I think tOSU should report all violations (including all original paperwork and any copies made) to Buckyle and let him decide if they get reported to the NCAA.

We can start a fundraising drive to buy his first piece of office furniture.