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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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SEREbuckeye;1885297; said:
Dodd:


What a self-righteous dick bag.

And yet at the same time he is admitting the media being previously complicit in covering up many of these issues with that statement as well. When he takes responsibility for being complicit, if not responsible, (as the media, not personally) in the decade long farce that was USC's compliance from 1999-2009, he can get back to me.
 
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In case you haven't noticed, we have entered a new era of accountability in college sports. Maybe it's more media outlets. Maybe it's more media knowing how to file a Freedom of Information Act request. Maybe cheaters are getting sloppy. It doesn't matter. In this digital era, there is a record of everything. Sadly, that even includes "Charlie's Korner." We, the media, have taken the next step up in scrutinizing public institutions. It is up to college athletics to erect the next firewall

"We"?! What the fuck did you contribute to the investigation, dickweed?

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BUCKYLE;1885302; said:
I'm kinda hoping Gee and JT come out like "Yeah we fuckin' cheated. What the fuck you gonna do about it bitches? Yahoo...we comin' for you!!!" Gene Smith's in the background with a beard and his head shaved lookin' like Suge Knight just jumpin' at reporters, making them flinch then laughing hysterically like a crazy person. Then lasers burst out, smoke fills the room, and all three back off the podium area with the DX hand signs for "SUCK IT".

Either that or they deny all wrongdoing and go apeshit on Yahoo.

To the first reporter that tries to interrupt: "Know your role, and SHUT...YOUR...MOUTH..."
 
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Bucklion;1885300; said:
I'm sure I'm overthinking this, but why a presser and not just a released statement? Let's say, as a completely hypothetical example, Tressel decides to dance, sidestep, and walk over the issue in the opening statement. The first question he'll get (regardless of what he says anyway, I imagine) is something along the line of "Coach Tressel, are you categorically denying any and all knowledge of these events prior to December when the school reported it?" in which case he'll either have to 1) issue a categorical denial anyway, or 2) he'll dance around it again and look even worse having done it twice. Seems to me issuing a statement would be better for him.

Well, that may keep Gene Smith from his opportunity to deflect all over the place and be a...

Meh, I'm going to shut up... bashing and all...

At any rate, my question is, say someone did inform Tressel, and he either questioned the players (or the Compliance department did) and they denied the allegations (which they already received an extra game suspension for not being forthright), what can they really do as far as fact finding? They aren't the FBI... I'm not saying they couldn't have done more, I just don't know what they COULD have done.
 
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BUCKYLE;1885302; said:
I'm kinda hoping Gee and JT come out like "Yeah we fuckin' cheated. What the fuck you gonna do about it bitches? Yahoo...we comin' for you!!!" Gene Smith's in the background with a beard and his head shaved lookin' like Suge Knight just jumpin' at reporters, making them flinch then laughing hysterically like a crazy person. Then lasers burst out, smoke fills the room, and all three back off the podium area with the DX hand signs for "SUCK IT".

Either that or they deny all wrongdoing and go apeshit on Yahoo.

:beard:
 
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AKAKBUCK;1885307; said:
Well, that may keep Gene Smith from his opportunity to deflect all over the place and be a...

Meh, I'm going to shut up... bashing and all...

At any rate, my question is, say someone did inform Tressel, and he either questioned the players (or the Compliance department did) and they denied the allegations (which they already received an extra game suspension for not being forthright), what can they really do as far as fact finding? They aren't the FBI... I'm not saying they couldn't have done more, I just don't know what they COULD have done.

Yeah, I know where you're going with that...

as for the second issue, wouldn't he have to report it anyway? I mean doesn't there have to be some sort of open investigation into such an allegation...or doesn't there? It's kind of confusing...
 
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Bucklion;1885300; said:
I'm sure I'm overthinking this, but why a presser and not just a released statement? Let's say, as a completely hypothetical example, Tressel decides to dance, sidestep, and walk over the issue in the opening statement. The first question he'll get (regardless of what he says anyway, I imagine) is something along the line of "Coach Tressel, are you categorically denying any and all knowledge of these events prior to December when the school reported it?" in which case he'll either have to 1) issue a categorical denial anyway, or 2) he'll dance around it again and look even worse having done it twice. Seems to me issuing a statement would be better for him.

I think maybe because he's a man and he takes responsibility for his actions.
 
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AKAKBUCK;1885307; said:
At any rate, my question is, say someone did inform Tressel, and he either questioned the players (or the Compliance department did) and they denied the allegations (which they already received an extra game suspension for not being forthright), what can they really do as far as fact finding? They aren't the FBI... I'm not saying they couldn't have done more, I just don't know what they COULD have done.

Well, then in December, they should have acknowledged the fact that they were made aware of the incident in April, and not on December 8th, when the Feds informed them. I think that 8 month lag is the crux of the issue here.
 
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Bucklion;1885311; said:
as for the second issue, wouldn't he have to report it anyway? I mean doesn't there have to be some sort of open investigation into such an allegation...or doesn't there? It's kind of confusing...

I don't know.

My problem is, that I can't believe it wasn't reported to compliance, there has to be some kind of mechanism that says "if little billy's sister calls and says she saw little billy give Posey a lollipop at a parade, compliance needs to be notified"-- now, what happens after that, I don't know.
 
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AKAKBUCK;1885307; said:
Well, that may keep Gene Smith from his opportunity to deflect all over the place and be a...

Meh, I'm going to shut up... bashing and all...

At any rate, my question is, say someone did inform Tressel, and he either questioned the players (or the Compliance department did) and they denied the allegations (which they already received an extra game suspension for not being forthright), what can they really do as far as fact finding? They aren't the FBI... I'm not saying they couldn't have done more, I just don't know what they COULD have done.

I brought up the same point earlier today. Unless Tress knew the who/when/where, I'm not sure what more can be done besides getting the team together and asking them on their honor is this is true. If they lied, then what?
 
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Bucklion;1885311; said:
Yeah, I know where you're going with that...

as for the second issue, wouldn't he have to report it anyway? I mean doesn't there have to be some sort of open investigation into such an allegation...or doesn't there? It's kind of confusing...

If it would have actually been an email amongst the many hundreds I'm sure JT receives every day, and was not specific or direct, why should there be any weight given to that email? To me, personally questioning players and possibly bringing it up in passing in a meeting should be more than enough.

Filtering stuff like that is for the compliance department, right? If they got word of it as nothing more than a vague email similar to hundreds they have received before, why should it carry any weight?

I don't know, but for me, it just seems that this is the direction the allegations are coming from. A true inside source that knew names and individual circumstances seems highly unlikely, unless squelched by the Feds. In which case, there should be no real problem if the silence was directed by the Feds regarding an on-going investigation, right?
 
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