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B10-winning!brodybuck21;1885142; said:
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tsteele316
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because osu is going to come out and throw the hammer down specifically and end the whole thing right off the bat.ShakerBuck;1885144; said:
using your very own logic, if the team was told something bad, and was told to keep quiet, how long do you really think that would last? my guess is that it wouldn't take long to find out.
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Jake;1885148; said:
but it isn't like they are trying to build up suspense, why not just let the heat disipate, and then reassure and clarify via the presser
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MaliBuckeye;1885120; said:
I just re-watched Smith's presser as well. He simply laid out a timeline. In my IMO it was all phrased in such a way that it could only be characterized as a lie by somebody who has an axe to grind.
You know how on '24' it supposedly showed everything that was going on in the story as it happened in real time, yet they never show Jack Bauer or anybody else having to stop what they're doing for a moment to take a dump? That's what this is starting to seem like to me. If anything happened before the feds contacted Ohio State, it was left out of Gene Smith's timeline because in the end it was not pertinent to the story or what he was trying to communicate in his statement.
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kn1f3party
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[sarcasm]Michigan State's doing here? Trying to prevent us from getting suspensions reduced![/sarcasm]
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CONGERSBUCKEYE
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Just a thought: This was a federal investigation. Would JT been asked to not do anything or act on this information to prevent a pending federal investigation? I am not sure how it would work but their timeline would match up pretty well with the Feds account? I believe that JT is smart and based on how he coaches the risk of not telling seems to be so much more downside than upside..
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TresselstillownsTSUN
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Gotta think with them flying Smith back for the presser, it will be more then just "no comment, we are looking into it, etc."
And to whoever said they have gone back and forth I say this to you.......GTFO!
And to whoever said they have gone back and forth I say this to you.......GTFO!
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Since it has become a topic, here's the relevant parts of what was said.
Gene Smith's wording from the original Dec 23rd press conference. (Transcribed verbatim from the video)
Official.site
"Let me just step you through the timeline ..."
"The U.S. Attorney's Office contacted our institution on December 7th. They were engaged in a case where they went and seized some items from a person's home and place of business. ... So we were contacted then."
"The Athletic Department was informed on December 8th, and from December 9th through the 15th we were doing our investigation planning. We realized that those items may have been sold to this person by athletes; the individual that was being investigated made that allegation so we had to folloow up on that. We interviewed our athletes on December 16th." ...
"On the 17th we contacted the Big Ten and the NCAA offices and informed them that we were preparing a self-report." ... "On the night of Dec 19th (Sunday night) we sent in the self-report to the NCAA and declared our athletes ineligible in that report. The NCAA subsequently on Tuesday, Dec 21st conducted phone interviews, interviewing all the young men who are listed in the release. That took all afternoon on the 21st. They asked for additional information that we subsequently submitted late that evening and some more that next morning to them. We were contacted by phone on the 22nd (yesterday) about 4:45, 5 o'clock, where the NCAA rendered their decision. And subsequntly, obviously as it says in the release, reinstated the young men for the bowl game, and rendered sanctions for 2011 regular season games. We will appeal ..."
"... for this particular bylaw, this bylaw only, we were not as explicit as we should have been in '07 and '08, and in '08 and '09." ... "This one, we did not do as good a job as we should have done. And so, in this regard, we have to do better. We started that in November of 2009, and at that particular time was when our young men realized that they had had a violation, and they did not come forward. The subsequent sanctions are built about that." ...
"There are no other NCAA violations around this case. We are very fortunate that we do not have a systemic problem in our program. This is isolated to these young men, isolated to this particular instance. There's no other violations that exist."
Note - end of my transcript.
Here's the NCAA Press Release from Dec 23rd.
Gene Smith's wording from the original Dec 23rd press conference. (Transcribed verbatim from the video)
Official.site
"Let me just step you through the timeline ..."
"The U.S. Attorney's Office contacted our institution on December 7th. They were engaged in a case where they went and seized some items from a person's home and place of business. ... So we were contacted then."
"The Athletic Department was informed on December 8th, and from December 9th through the 15th we were doing our investigation planning. We realized that those items may have been sold to this person by athletes; the individual that was being investigated made that allegation so we had to folloow up on that. We interviewed our athletes on December 16th." ...
"On the 17th we contacted the Big Ten and the NCAA offices and informed them that we were preparing a self-report." ... "On the night of Dec 19th (Sunday night) we sent in the self-report to the NCAA and declared our athletes ineligible in that report. The NCAA subsequently on Tuesday, Dec 21st conducted phone interviews, interviewing all the young men who are listed in the release. That took all afternoon on the 21st. They asked for additional information that we subsequently submitted late that evening and some more that next morning to them. We were contacted by phone on the 22nd (yesterday) about 4:45, 5 o'clock, where the NCAA rendered their decision. And subsequntly, obviously as it says in the release, reinstated the young men for the bowl game, and rendered sanctions for 2011 regular season games. We will appeal ..."
"... for this particular bylaw, this bylaw only, we were not as explicit as we should have been in '07 and '08, and in '08 and '09." ... "This one, we did not do as good a job as we should have done. And so, in this regard, we have to do better. We started that in November of 2009, and at that particular time was when our young men realized that they had had a violation, and they did not come forward. The subsequent sanctions are built about that." ...
"There are no other NCAA violations around this case. We are very fortunate that we do not have a systemic problem in our program. This is isolated to these young men, isolated to this particular instance. There's no other violations that exist."
Note - end of my transcript.
Here's the NCAA Press Release from Dec 23rd.
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