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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Bucknut24;1911589; said:
ok, i must have missed something, but one of my friends (uf fan) keeps telling me tressel should be booted because he lied to the feds? was there something i missed?

or is he just another brainless sec fan?
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I don't remember anything happening like this. Tell him if he's going to talk shit that he'd better know what he's talking about.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1911555; said:
"Covering up" implies planned and continued acts at hiding something. His one-time signing of a form saying he was aware of no violations doesn't quite meet that standard...
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but his deliberate evasion of these facts while the NCAA was investigating the Tat5 situation in December is a clear 2nd chance to come clean.

this is being generous.....dare I suggest that JT had at least several conversations about the tattoos with either the players, Cicero, Sarniak, or all after April 2010 but before September.

I just can't buy for one second that it was "a mistake". It seems to be a systematic coverup. I'm just so damned disappointed in JT I can't think straight.
 
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Bucknut24;1911589; said:
ok, i must have missed something, but one of my friends (uf fan) keeps telling me tressel should be booted because he lied to the feds? was there something i missed?

or is he just another brainless sec fan?
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You need to find better friends


Tressel did indeed have contact with an FBI agent, an FBI agent who happens to be the father of a former player...this could either be good news or bad news. Good news if the FBI agent advised Tressel to keep the information quiet (Feds****>NCAA) bad news if it's just more shady looking connections kept by Tress. Publically the FBI guy is saying that the contact had nothing to do with the players situation (came up with a story about Tressel trying to find out info for a kid about a career in the FBI) but then again what is being stated publically doesn't really matter that much.
 
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"I think the NCAA will tell the school are you with us or JT.."

I agree with this..... I am truly saddened by this because regardless of the terrible mistake he made JT is good for the kids, the community, Ohio State, and college football. He is better then this mistake he made, but the facts as I know them and I am sure they are limited shows that JT cheated and tried to cover it up. There is no white-washing that.

IMO Ohio State has no choice but choose to cut ties and let JT exit the way he wants to.
 
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unionfutura;1911414; said:
Of course JT did this to gain a competitive advantage. How can you say he didn't?
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because so much of what he has done while at OSU was far from expedient or advantageous.

While recruiting, JT has cast a very narrow net and not played the numbers games with recruits. He has done this even in the face of BigTen competitors trying to play that game against him.

While coaching on the field, JT has called off the dogs so many times we can't even count them. OSU could have named their score against half the opponents we've beaten under JT....yet we played keep away most of the time in the 2nd halves of games. He did this even with the knowleget that the media may not forgive him in the rankings the next week.

It's really convenient for critics to forget how much class and dignity Coach Tressel showed in the face of scrutiny and criticism by the media and fans over the years. He always took the high road and never called out others. He's a far better man than I would have been in the same situation.

To say he covere this up just to keep his players eligible goes against a 10 year track record that speaks otherwise.
 
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DaveyBoy;1911602; said:
To say he covere this up just to keep his players eligible goes against a 10 year track record that speaks otherwise.
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Him actually doing what he did goes against his track record. There's really no other way to look at it.. he knew they were ineligible and lied about it.

We're all surprised.. but I'm done being naive.
 
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DaveyBoy;1911602; said:
because so much of what he has done while at OSU was far from expedient or advantageous.

While recruiting, JT has cast a very narrow net and not played the numbers games with recruits. He has done this even in the face of BigTen competitors trying to play that game against him.

While coaching on the field, JT has called off the dogs so many times we can't even count them. OSU could have named their score against half the opponents we've beaten under JT....yet we played keep away most of the time in the 2nd halves of games. He did this even with the knowleget that the media may not forgive him in the rankings the next week.

It's really convenient for critics to forget how much class and dignity Coach Tressel showed in the face of scrutiny and criticism by the media and fans over the years. He always took the high road and never called out others. He's a far better man than I would have been in the same situation.

To say he covere this up just to keep his players eligible goes against a 10 year track record that speaks otherwise.
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It doesn't matter any more what any one of us think..the NCAA has basicaly decided he did...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1911555; said:
"Covering up" implies planned and continued acts at hiding something. His one-time signing of a form saying he was aware of no violations doesn't quite meet that standard...
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Yeah it does. He knew it was a violation and kept it from the NCAA and compliance at OSU. That seems like hiding something to me. I'm surprised at the choice JT made but I can't act like it wasn't a willful act to hide something.
 
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3074326;1911604; said:
Him actually doing what he did goes against his track record. There's really no other way to look at it.. he knew they were ineligible and lied about it.

We're all surprised.. but I'm done being naive.
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I agree completely....but for some to suggest that there is no possibility that he did this for any reason other than to keep his players eligible is quite ridiculous. He may have done that, but there is nothing we know to suggest that. I truly think that he was arrogant enough to believe that what he was doing was the right way to discipline these guys and to not punish the rest of the team.

it was wrong but it may not have been to ensure a national title run
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
"Covering up" implies planned and continued acts at hiding something. His one-time signing of a form saying he was aware of no violations doesn't quite meet that standard...
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Maybe that's what covering up means to you.....but to me it means he took at least one action to prevent the truth from coming out. But if you need more than one action, how about the bullshit that he didn't know what to do with the email or that he was concerned about players' safety/anonymity.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1911626; said:
Maybe that's what covering up means to you.....but to me it means he took at least one action to prevent the truth from coming out. But if you need more than one action, how about the bull[Mark May] that he didn't know what to do with the email or that he was concerned about players' safety/anonymity.
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You hit the nail on the head. Frankly I would have had much less of a problem with some of this if all those bullshit statements hadn't been made at press conferences. But all the excuses made at press conferences are REALLY tough to swallow.
 
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