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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

With Gonzo in the mix and Holmes looking to return its not like we need him at WR every down either.
True, but when TG is on the field, it forces the defense to take account of where he is and what he is doing, moreso than with Holmes or Gonzo.

TG is an offensive weapon pure and simple. A game breaker, a definite difference maker, whose mere presence on the field changes what the defense may do. He might see the field in nickel situations and if he has the impact there like he does on the offensive side, then that will really open up what the defense can do. And TG will undoubtedly win a Heisman too if this comes to pass.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks we can't afford to start Underwood at corner? That half of the field would get torched. Ginn needs to play corner full-time. He can still get plays on offense and of course kick/punt returns. Holmes and Gonzo are both playmakers at WR and we will add Dukes and Lyons into the mix. WR is much better off than corner.
 
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CleveBucks said:
Am I the only one that thinks we can't afford to start Underwood at corner? That half of the field would get torched.

I still have faith in EJ. I think he just needs to rely more on what his coaches are teaching him. His biggest mistakes seem to be mental ones where he bit on fakes and ended up getting burned. I would love to see someone like Santonio take EJ under his wing and ask him to put in the extra time during the offseason to improve. Lots of time watching tape in the winter will help.

Also, what the heck is the talk about him leaving all about?
 
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I really like what I've heard about Malcom Jenkins. He'll be a true freshman next year, but he might be good enough to start. He's about Ashton's size and had 8 INTs his junior year. I haven't heard any stats from him this year. I hope EJ surprises us all though and develops into a lockdown corner for his senior year.
 
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I think he could be a starting CB next year and still be a big time playmaker offense. He's such a weapon on offense that he needs to get some PT there. However we don't need him out there every single down on offense and stalk blocking every series. Some well timed rest on offense series, giving the occasional punt/kick return to someone else if he's tired, and getting a running game going that would let him be an impact player on both sides of the ball. With his track background he's in phenominal shape so he could pull it off.
 
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Ginn Named Big 10 Special Teams POTW

I think we all knew this was coming...

http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112204aaa.html

Ginn Named Big Ten Special Teams Player of the Week
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Ted Ginn, Jr. tied an NCAA record with his fourth punt return touchdown this season.


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Nov. 22, 2004

OFFENSE:
Kyle Orton, Purdue, SR, QB, Altoona, Iowa/Southeast Polk
Orton set a school record with 530 yards of total offense and also equaled program bests with 522 passing yards and six touchdowns despite sitting out most of the fourth quarter against Indiana. The senior quarterback completed 33 of 54 passes (.611) in the game, as his 530 total yards of offense ranks third in Big Ten annals, breaking the former school record of 524 yards held by Drew Brees. Orton also equaled Brees' school marks in passing yardage, which rates third in League history, and scoring strikes, which ranks second among all Conference signal callers. The Purdue attack established a Big Ten record with 763 yards of total offense, shattering the single-game mark of 742 yards set by Minnesota in 1982, while setting a school record with 63 points, the largest scoring output since a 62-0 victory over Rose Poly in 1913. Fourteen of Orton's passes were hauled in by wide receiver Taylor Stubblefield, who shattered the NCAA record with 309 career receptions. <!-- STORY AD BEGINS HERE -->
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Jonathan Babineaux, Iowa, SR, DT, Port Arthur, Texas/Lincoln
Babineaux recorded seven tackles, three tackles for loss, including a pair of sacks, and returned a fumble 39 yards to set up a score as Iowa knocked off Wisconsin to earn a share of its second Big Ten title in three seasons. The senior defensive tackle anchored a Hawkeyes defense that limited the Badgers to 41 yards on the ground and just one touchdown, as Iowa ended the year ranked first in Conference games only in total and rushing defense. SPECIAL TEAMS:
Ted Ginn, Jr., Ohio State, FR, PR, Cleveland, Ohio/Glenville
Ginn equaled an NCAA record with his fourth punt return touchdown this season, as he broke loose for a career-long 82-yard scoring sprint to give the Buckeyes a commanding 27-14 lead in the third quarter against Michigan. The freshman standout returned four punts for 123 yards on the day and joined Kansas State's David Allen (1998) and BYU's Golden Richards (1971) as the only players to produce four punt return scores in a single season. Ginn also set the Big Ten single-season mark and now ranks second in career punt return tallies behind Iowa's Tim Dwight, who returned five punts for touchdowns from 1994-97.
 
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bucknuts44820 said:
Has he won this award two or three times this year?
That would be twice now for Ginn to go with the three times this year that Nugent was POTW...

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GREAT write-up about Ginn on BN

Free article about Ted, OSU, and Glenville. Here's my highlight.... "I just try to stay as humble as possible, so I just give the credit to God, my coaching staff and my players that help me do it.” - Ted Ginn, Jr.

Ginn Sparks OSU And Then Glenville On To Victory
By Gary Housteau
Date: Nov 23, 2004

After another record-setting performance in the biggest game of his young life against Michigan, Ted Ginn Jr. made the long trek north immediately after the win to root his Glenville Tarblooders on to victory over St. Ignatius in the biggest game of their school's history.

With time running out in the Glenville game against St. Ignatius this past weekend and the Tarblooders in front 22-14 at Lakewood Stadium, Ted Ginn Jr. had a big smile on his face. Not long after the Ohio State victory over Michigan was history, Ginn (pictured, left), along with fellow Buckeye Curtis Terry, made the long drive north just to be standing there on the sideline rooting on their former high school teammates.

“We beat Michigan today and we’re beating St. Ignatius,” said Ginn with a big grin on his face. “I’m really happy right now.”

The first “we” that Ginn was referring to, of course, was Ohio State and Ginn made an important contribution to that victory with a spectacular 82-yard punt return in the third quarter for a touchdown. The second “we” was Glenville High School and Ginn obviously thought it was important to let his former team know that he cared enough about them to make it to their biggest game ever when he just played a starring role in the biggest game of his young life.

Back at Ohio Stadium just a few hours earlier, former Tarblooders Ginn and Troy Smith were introduced to the members of the media at the post-game press conference after the Michigan victory even before Jim Tressel arrived. They were hoping to make it to the Glenville game that night so they were brought out extra early in order to get a head start on their drive.

“I’m a Glenville Tarblooder for life,” said Ginn at the press conference. “We know how important it is to the kids back home to see us walk in the stadium and know that we’ve got their back just like they watched us on TV and we know that all their eyes were on us. So I just try to give back as much as possible and I know that by me going back and watching their football game is probably going to give them another step or that extra effort just to know that Ted Ginn or Troy Smith was in the stadium or Pierre Woods. So it’s just great.”

Ginn is obviously a chip off the old block. Already he’s a walking and talking replica of his father, off the field that is, and no one knows that better than Tressel.

“Ted Ginn Sr. I’ve known for many, many years when young Ted was just knee high and he’s a guy that you admire because of what he’s done for that community,” Tressel said. “He given all of those kids the guidance that if you go do things the right way, good things will happen for you. But it’s going to be rough. That’s why Troy and Teddy and Pierre and Curtis and the guys that were in that game today, that’s why they’re where they are doing what they’re doing, because Ted Ginn Sr. was very demanding. He’s made an impact where he is and to me it’s a great thing for Glenville High School.”

Ginn Sr. had a big weekend of his own and had to miss the one game that he’s forever waited for to see his son play in. However his Tarblooder team was sailing on unchartered waters after beating St. Edward last week and he had to take care of business.

“I was playing for the regional championship at Glenville High School and we were the first team to ever go as far as a regional championship. So that was big for our school and big for our community,” Ginn Sr. said. “But also my son was playing in his first big collegiate Ohio State-Michigan rivalry so that was something that I was very excited for and really wanted to see it. But I stayed in the hotel and watched it.

“So with all of that going on and wanting Ted to do good and Troy to do good and Donte (Whitner) to do good, and to see all of those guys on the field at one time, it was a big weekend. And I still want Pierre to be successful even though he’s playing for Michigan.”

Although Ginn Sr. would have loved to have been in both places at the same time, he said it wasn’t really as difficult for him to miss the Michigan game as one might expect it to be.

“It wasn’t really hard for me at all because in spirit I’m there,” he said. “I was watching it on TV so it wasn’t really hard but my biggest concern was just for them all to do well in the game. Playing in the Big Ten, at Ohio State or Michigan, you’re only judged by how well you play in the Ohio State-Michigan game. It doesn’t really matter what you do in the other games because the memories always go back to how well you played in that game there.”

With that being said, it was a record-setting day for Ginn Jr. and Smith as well in this year’s renewal of this epic rivalry.

Ginn’s 82-yard punt return for a touchdown, the longest return of his young career and the fourth longest in OSU history, was the fourth one he returned for a score on the season. That mark established both an Ohio State and Big Ten record for most punt returns for TDs in a single season. He also tied the NCAA record for touchdowns on punt returns in a single season. And in addition to all of that, Ginn became just the third player in NCAA history with four punt returns for touchdowns.

And for even more historical significance, Ginn’s record-setting punt return is the longest play allowed by Michigan this season and it was the first Ohio State punt return for a touchdown against Michigan since 1971 when Tom Campana reached pay dirt after returning a Wolverine punt back 85 yards.

And if that wasn’t enough to accomplish in one game, Ginn established a career receiving mark for himself in the Michigan contest. He had five receptions for 87 yards, both career highs.

But from talking with Ginn Sr. about what his son did in the Michigan contest, one can easily get the false impression that he really thinks what his son did against the Wolverines was “no big-biggie.”

“I still feel that there’s a lot more that he can do,” Ginn Sr. said. “Yeah I’m proud and I’m happy for the moment but like I know and he knows, it’s only for a moment. You have to let that go and get busy for the next one.”

They really do understand the magnitude of all of Ted Jr.’s prodigious accomplishments.

“He’s blessed,” said Ginn Sr. with a chuckle. “It’s incredible to everybody else but he’s just blessed and he’s a chosen kid. He’s a chosen child and he has to do that because it’s not for him, it’s for everybody else that’s following him. It’s for the people that needs to see that to make them see that they have an opportunity too.

“People have gifts and I have a gift of coaching and having the passion to understand and work with children. So I can never, ever get excited and say that I have arrived because I’ve got so many kids that’s going to continue to come.”

Routinely in the interview room, Ginn Jr. tells reporters that what he’s been doing as a punt returner is “no big-biggie.” He was asked after the Michigan game, after returning another punt for a touchdown, if what he makes look so simple on the field is still not a big-biggie to him.

“I say it’s not a big-biggie and I just try to stay as humble as possible,” he said. “So I just give the credit to God, my coaching staff and my players that help me do it.”

It’s an answer Ginn Sr. would expect his son to say and be very disappointed if he didn’t address it that way. It’s a mind set that’s a result of the way he was raised and the things that he’s witnessed since his childhood.

“When Ted does things on the football field or whatever he’s doing, he’s a servant,” Ginn Sr said. “He’s got to always know that he has to continue to serve because it’s not about him, it’s about the next guy that’s coming behind him. It’s about serving that university and being a soldier. And that’s the way I look at it.

“And I look at it that way for Troy and all my kids that are down there. I mean that for Troy, Donte and Curtis Terry(pictured, right). That’s just the way it is. For those kids have been blessed to have that opportunity and they have to do it that way. That’s just the way it is.”

And when young Ted showed up on the Tarblooder sideline late in the fourth quarter against St. Ignatius, everyone there knew that it was Glenville’s special day.

“What he did down there was great and so he felt that he needed to give back so that the kids at Glenville can see his face and give them that extra push and give them that extra step,” Ginn Sr. said. “It all goes back to everybody keeping the ball rolling together.”

The victory over St. Ignatius was the perfect ending to a wonderful day for the people from Glenville as the Tarblooders kept rolling right along into the state semifinal round against Canton McKinley.

“I felt good for a moment,” Ginn Sr. said. “But after a while that goes away and we’ve got to move on.”

That’s just the way it is. Be it a Michigan win, an 82-yard punt return for a touchdown or a first-ever regional championship, it’s “no big-biggie.”
 
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Ginn to corner, this season?

With the extra month of practice time does anyone think Ginn will be getting reps at corner? I do, the bowl games are a way to get ready for next year and reward the seniors. I think he is going to eventually do double duty ala Gamble and I say no better time than now to get him some reps and put him in a game situtation. I think we are going to need him there next year more than we thought as well, obviously Fox is gone and yes, we WILL miss him and with Underwood's uncertain status that leaves us with a bunch of unknowns. Although I wouldn't mine seeing Lane in there :p.
 
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