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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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Five Dolphins with careers on the hot seat
Posted by Dave Hyde on December 22, 2009

Five Dolphins who need a strong finish to change the idea they'll be gone at season's end:

1. Ted Ginn Jr. Someone in the press box asked this question the other day: Has any Bill parcells player represented more of everything he stands against? He went into the fetal position on a kickoff return Sunday. He makes the occasional play, sure. And he has great speed. But talent, unharnessed, is a common story in sports. Ginn needs a big return game, a big catch game - something, anything - to remind people again why the Dolphins should keep him. He won a game against the Jets nearly by himself this year. That was huge. But when you have one game in 16 to hang your shingle on, that's not enough to outweigh the minuses.
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Five Dolphins with careers on the hot seat
 
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Poe McKnoe;1606436; said:
I say send him to Tennessee, where he should have gone in the first place. Vince Young, Chris Johnson, and Ted Ginn? Oh my.
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Or Cincinnati. The Bengals miss Chris Henry's ability to stretch a defense so that Ochofucko can get open underneath. And they finally have an O-line that can protect Palmer long enough to let the deep pattern develop.

I can't believe I'm saying something good about the Bengals.
 
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Miami Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn Jr.: 'This is my worst season playing football'
By Edgar Thompson
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009

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Ted Ginn Jr. has drawn the ire of coach Tony Sparano on occasion.

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Ted Ginn Jr. says this is the worst season of his life in football.

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Suffice to say, it's been a down year for Ted Ginn Jr.

DAVIE ? Wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. has been playing football for a long time, from pee-wee leagues to high school in Cleveland to Ohio State and then the Dolphins.

But he's never had a year like this.

"This is my worst season playing football. Period, from a little guy to now," Ginn, 24, said Thursday. "I'm not looking at it like that, but it has been rough."

The dropped passes that plagued him earlier this season have made him a target ? not necessarily on the field, but out in public.

"Every time you see somebody, 'You got to catch the ball,' " Ginn said they tell him. "I still get it to this day, from little kids to grown people."

He has been one of the Dolphins' most-criticized players since the day they used the No. 9 overall pick to select him in 2007.

The barbs have been worse this season because expectations had risen after he had 56 catches in 2008. Instead of a breakout season, he has gone backwards. He has only 30 catches with one touchdown, has sometimes lost his starting job and leads the team in drops with eight.

Ginn has shown flashes of brilliance as a kick returner, highlighted by touchdowns of 100 and 101 yards Nov. 1 against the New York Jets. But in Sunday's loss at Tennessee he had only 104 yards on six kick returns and muffed a punt.

Worse, he looked tentative in the face of tacklers. Twice he tried to reverse field on kick returns but lost yards and ran out of bounds.

"It probably looked kind of distraught up there," he said. "But at the end of the day I have to take what they give. Sometimes I overextend the play or I didn't get what I wanted to get."

Ginn has been criticized for his tendency to seek the safety of the sideline. Last season, he even drew the ire of his father and former high school coach, Ted Sr., who telephoned his son and chastised him for running out of bounds one yard short of a first down on two occasions against San Diego.

Media and fans are less forgiving than family.

"People are going to express their opinion," he said. "That's how much they like football. I can't get mad at nobody. It's sports."
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Miami Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn Jr.: 'This is my worst season playing football'
 
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Ginn's getting grief wherever he goes
Posted by Mike Florio on December 26, 2009

Josh Alper mentioned it in our Christmas one-liners, and I couldn't resist shining a light on it tonight.

Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn recently told Edgar Thompson of the Palm Beach Post that 2009 has been Ginn's "worst season playing football."

Given that Ginn was named the AFC special teams player of the month for November after pushing the team to a win over the Jets with two kickoff returns for touchdowns in the same game, plenty of guys would love to have such a bad season. But Ginn has been hearing it not for his success catching and running with kicked balls, but because of his inability to consistently getting and keeping his hands on thrown balls.

"Every time you see somebody [they say], 'You got to catch the ball,'" Ginn told Thompson. "I still get it to this day, from little kids to grown people."

Ginn also has been criticized for running out of bounds, prompting former Miami guard Bob Kuechenberg to call Ginn "an embarrassment and a coward."

While Ginn says he wants to stay in Miami, he realizes that his inability to live up to his top-ten draft status could cause the team to not want the former Buckeye to stick around.

"I understand the business," Ginn said. "I understand being a high draft pick you only have so much [time] to show what you can do.


"I don't think they're fed up with me . . . but you never know."

We think the Dolphins realize Ginn still has a role to play, but that he might have to reduce his compensation in order to remain with the team, especially if his best value to the franchise comes from returning kicks -- and from not catching passes.
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Ginn's getting grief wherever he goes | ProFootballTalk.com
 
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Trade him and a 2nd round pick to Arizona for Anquan Boldin and let the Cards drop that salary, Ted get a fresh start, and the Dolphins get thier physical reciever. Win, win win.

Also like to see Ted getting one on one coverage out of the slot with Kurt Warner throwing him the ball. The mentoring from Fitz wouldnt suck either!
 
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Teddy had a great game on offense today. BS call negated a beautiful long TD catch where he just obliterated the corner and safety on a skinny post. He had numerous good blocks today from his WR position as well.

I think he's finally starting to get the hang of Chad Henne's delivery. A lot of Dolphins recievers have been struggling because Chad doesnt know how to put touch on the ball, everything is as hard as he can throw it. They could be special together if they put the time in but for this year the Dolphins are done and they may look to replace Ted in the end.
 
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Dolphins face decisions on Ted Ginn, Jr., Anthony Fasano
After hoping Ted Ginn, Jr. and Anthony Fasano would solidify their positions this season, the Dolphins must decide whether to keep either or both players.
BY BARRY JACKSON
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Miami Dolphins wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. (19) stiff-arms the Tennessee Titans' Lavelle Hawkins (87) on a kickoff during the third quarter of an NFL football game on Sunday, Dec. 20, 2009 at LP Field in Nashville, Tenn. JOHN RUSSELL / AP

This was the year -- at least the Dolphins hoped -- that two key offensive positions (No. 1 receiver and tight end) would be solidified; the year Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Fasano would remove any doubt they were quality long-term starters.

Ginn, clearly, hasn't proven to be the answer as a No. 1 receiver.

Fasano still might be a long-term starting tight end, but the Dolphins' plans at his position remain in question. Fasano said Friday he has been given no indication if the team wants to re-sign him.

Both reflected on their seasons this week.

``I could have played a lot better,'' Ginn said. ``It wasn't as productive as I wanted it to be. But at the end of the year, I've been pretty good. You go through trials and tribulations and it's all about how you bounce back. I've made some catches'' recently -- including five for 82 yards against Houston.

But negative perceptions were fueled earlier in the season, when Ginn dropped several passes, failed to haul in what would have been the winning touchdown against Indianapolis, and generated few yards after catch.

Ginn noted last summer how several prominent receivers' statistics rose dramatically in their third season.

Instead, Ginn's numbers declined, from 56 catches and 790 yards in 2008, to 35 and 434 this season. He didn't start in four games, and his playing time was reduced.

And for all the talk that Chad Henne would maximize Ginn's deep-ball skills, Ginn's yards per catch has slipped, from 14.1 in 2008 to 12.4 in '09.

They connected on a 53-yard touchdown in the first Jets game, and had another long score nullified last Sunday because of a penalty. But Henne hasn't thrown deep to Ginn as much as expected, and Ginn has only two catches longer than 21 yards.

``I wish I could have had more [deep balls], but I'm not selfish, I'm a team player,'' Ginn said.

Asked about the Henne/Ginn long-ball dynamic, coach Tony Sparano said, ``we had a lot of deep balls called, thrown, unexecuted and/or just not being able to be thrown because of coverage.''

Ginn ranks ninth in the league in kickoff return average (25.7), but his returns have been generally unremarkable since running back two for touchdowns Nov. 1 on the road against the Jets.

Ginn, 24, is under contract for three more years at reasonable salaries -- $1.03 million, $1.39 million and $1.8 million.

``I think I will be back,'' he said. ``Why wouldn't I be back?''
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Sam Madison takes shot at Ted Ginn
> Posted by Joe Rose on January 5, 2010

Ted Ginn catches a nine-yard pass and he backs out of bounds . . . I just don't know how he doesn't have a better feel for where he is on the field. I know he's got great speed, but he's the most frustrating player on this team.

Former Dolphin great Sam Madison expressed those same feelings on the show Monday morning.

"He dodges tacklers," Madison said. "Instead of delivering the blow, he's running away from it. That's going to get him in bad situations. When you catch the ball, you have to have bad intentions. If you look at a guy like Hines Ward, when he catches the ball he's turning around and looking up. Ted Ginn is usually catching the ball running backwards and slipping and falling. You may be able to run through one of those tackles or the defensive back may miss or fall down and then you can use your speed. But he's always ducking and dodging."
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Sam Madison takes shot at Ted Ginn

January 05, 2010
Miami Dolphins: Mark Duper critiques Ted Ginn Jr.
> Posted by Mike Berardino on January 5, 2010

Caught up with former Miami Dolphins receiving great Mark Duper at Don Shula's 80th birthday bash, and the man from Louisiana did not mince words when I raised the subject of a certain speedster on the current roster who has a little trouble with some of the basics.

"Ted Ginn Jr.?" Duper began. "Needs a lot of work."

OK, where would you start?

"First of all, route running," Duper continued. "Catching the football. Concentration drills, that's basically what he needs. He's got the speed. We all know that. He's got to learn how to get open and catch the football."

By the way, Duper said he's never discussed the art of receiving with Ginn, even though they shared similar speed.

I asked Duper if he thought it could still happen for Ginn in Miami or if he needed a fresh start.

"I don't know what they're going to do with him," Duper said. "It would be a waste of talent if they don't do something with him because the kid can play. He just had a tough year. Maybe next year he'll come back and redeem himself."
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Not many Phin fans like Ginn.
They think he plays weak. I haven't followed his career since he's been a pro but a few of the games I have seen him play he has been on the field.

If you want to read what some of them think just look at the comments after these articles.
 
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