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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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I don't think the miami coaching staff is doing a good job of coaching him up either. TG was a great returner at Ohio State and had no problems with drops like he has now. So I'm supposed to believe that his skills have diminshed this far in three years?

He needs a change of scenery. A coaching staff able to get him over the hump and be the potential pro bowl player we expected him to be.

AZ was mentioned earlier and I think that would be an ideal fit. Get to learn some nuances of the position (from Fitz) because Miami has no veteran receivers that can help TG. Duper can talk all the shit he wants he just looks like an idiot. He should be offering some mentoring not bashing the guy. Fn dolphins.
 
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Ireland: 'Ted Ginn is a player I like very much'
> Posted by Dave Hyde on January 12, 2010

Ted Ginn Jr. got the only backing necessary about his game and future. Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland says Ginn is a valued piece of the team and will be coming back (as he should, though you're allowed to be infuriated at times).

That's one of the nuggets from an interview with phins.com's Chris Shashaty and Ireland.

"Ted Ginn is a player I like very much,'' Ireland said."I think if you ask the head coach the same question he?ll say the same thing, and this why: Ted busts his tail. Did he drop some balls and not come through for us a couple of times? Sure. There?s situations that he?s been in that you wish he?d have finished better. He?s like the rest of the members on the team; we?ve got to finish better. I like Ted. Everyone in the world is saying to bench him, but we don?t win that Jets game if we bench him. I hand it to the head coach. He said, ?You know, I?ve just got this feeling he?s going to spark us somehow, that he?s going to make a big play ..."
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Ireland: 'Ted Ginn is a player I like very much'

January 11, 2010
Miami Dolphins: Keyshawn Johnson weighs in on Ted Ginn Jr.
> Posted by Mike Berardino on January 11, 2010

ESPN football analyst Keyshawn Johnson knows a little about swagger.

The author of "Just Give Me the Damn Ball" caught 814 passes for 10,571 yards and 64 touchdowns in an 11-year NFL career not just because of raw talent but because, as he says, he had "that arrogance, that confidence" great receivers must have. Keyshawn_johnson

Which brings us to another No. 19: Ted Ginn Jr. During a phone interview over the weekend to promote Old Spice's NFL Swagger Rankings --the Dolphins ranked 14th in a statistical survey that stretches back to 2006 and includes such categories as red-zone performance, penalties and merchandising (don't ask) -- Johnson had this to say when I asked him about Ginn.

"I think he?s OK," Johnson said. "He was drafted a little higher than what his performance warranted in college. I felt they reached a little bit for him but it?s not his fault. You can?t punish him for that. He?s a guy that at the right price makes sense."

So, is there still time for Ginn to salvage his Miami career?

"He has to play with a little bit of swagger," Johnson said. "He has to play with that confidence and a little bit of that swagger we?re talking about. The definition of swagger, in my opinion, is you have to have that arrogance, that confidence that you are the best out there at all times.

"That?s the way I approached the game. People said I wasn?t the fastest guy in the world, but I ran past everybody I needed to run past, and he needs to take that same approach. I dominated the [joker] when he got in front of me. He needs to take that same approach. Until then he?ll just be another guy wearing 19 that?s out on the football field running around collecting a paycheck that will soon be out of the league."
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The Dolphins as a whole team have been a disappointment. Their offensive attack is the freakin WILDCAT(Does anyone ever take this into consideration?), this is the NFL, no wonder you can never get your passing game on track. Why is Ted Ginn the scapegoat? I watch the Dolphins games to see No. 19 play. They run the ball from the wildcat first, second down, and third, until a third and long, everyone knows their gonna pass, safteys play soft soft coverage on Ginn, Henne or Pennington check down to a full back or tight end. If Ted Played for the Pats, Cardinals, Saints, (Veterin QB's good O-Line then he would flourish, just imagine Ted opposite Sidney Rice with Farve throwing them bombs), he would put up better numbers, hes young reciver playing with a younger quarterback...oh yeah did I mention the dolphins run the wildcat!

In his 3 years in the league, Ted has had more Touchdowns called back by penalty then anyone I have seen. At least 3 or 4 kickoffs, and a long bomb against the texans, if you look at his highlights on youtube, soo manytimes he gets them called back by a teammates penalty.
 
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Dan Marino: Speed makes Ted Ginn Jr. a valuable commodity
by Brian Biggane
The speed of wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. makes him a commodity the Dolphins will be hard-pressed to do without, Hall of Famer Dan Marino said Tuesday.

Speaking after the CBS press conference touting the network?s Super Bowl coverage this Sunday, Marino answered ?it?s hard for me to say? when asked if the Dolphins should address the wide receiver position this offseason.

?If you draft, you look at where your picks are and try to get the best people available. But sometimes you?ve gotta go for a position because you need it. They need playmakers. They do. And defensively you?re always looking for pass-rushers too.?

Specifically asked his thoughts on Ginn, Marino said, ?You?ve gotta have him in the game just because of his sheer speed and his ability to get down the field. Even if he?s a decoy sometimes, (opposing teams) have gotta cover him. He?s a legit guy to get down the field. Anytime you?ve got that kind of speed you?ve gotta have him in the game.?

Marino was reminded that many fans have been calling for the Dolphins to either trade or release Ginn after his statistics dropped off significantly in 2009. After catching 56 passes for 790 yards and two touchdowns in 2008, Ginn caught just 38 passes for 454 yards and one TD this past year.

?He?s worked hard, obviously,? he said. ?When you?re a No. 1 pick, the fans expect a lot out of you, and maybe he doesn?t have the numbers you would think you would need out of a No. 1 pick, ninth overall. But if he?s on your team, he?s a guy who needs to play for you, just because of pure speed.?
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Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog ? Blog Archive ? Dan Marino: Speed makes Ted Ginn Jr. a valuable commodity
 
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? Ted Ginn Jr., who could be traded if the Dolphins find a quality replacement, said he must improve his hand-eye coordination. Ginn, who had just 53 yards after the catch on 38 receptions, played 47.6 percent of Miami's offensive snaps -- behind receivers Greg Camarillo (60.4) and Davone Bess (50.6). ``Ginn has trouble concentrating,'' former Fins great Mark Duper said. And ``the Dolphins don't throw deep downfield enough. The rules favor receivers and they don't take enough chances.''

Entire article: Gaby Sanchez, Logan Morrison in showdown for spot at first - Sports - MiamiHerald.com
 
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The year before Ireland took over the personnel decisions, Miami drafted Ted Ginn Jr. with the 9th overall pick, a controversial decision that after three seasons does not look to be paying off for Miami.

Ginn Jr. had a solid 2008, with 56 catches and nearly 790 yards, but regressed in 2009 to 38 catches for 454 yards. In three years, he has just 5 receiving TDs and is averaging 13.0 yards a catch.

"We need players that make chunk yards," Ireland said.

He was asked if he felt the team had a No. 1 receiver.

"We have a No. 1 on our roster, but we need to get more production out of the wide receiver position," he said.
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Praise for Hartline, not so much for Ginn Jr. (Blogging the Buckeyes)
 
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Santonio Holmes: Dolphins can?t unload Ted Ginn Jr.
by Brian Biggane
Those who feel the Dolphins should get rid of wide receiver/kick returner Ted Ginn Jr. won?t find an ally in Belle Glade native Santonio Holmes.

Holmes, the Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver who was MVP of Super Bowl XLIII in Tampa, was a year ahead of Ginn at Ohio State and feels like Ginn still needs time to come into his own.


?The Dolphins aren?t gonna let him go,? Holmes said at an appearance earlier this week at ESPN?s Wide World of Sports complex in Orlando. ?He?s definitely too valuable.

?At Ohio State, whether it was wide receiver, kick return, punt return, he made things happen on the field. Now, learning the whole thing where you?ve got to be a primary wide receiver, that takes time. I?m sure he?ll grow into it.?

Ginn?s production fell from 56 receptions in 2008 to 38 in 2009, but Holmes maintained that ?he?s gonna be successful for whatever team he plays for.?
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Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog ? Blog Archive ? Santonio Holmes: Dolphins can’t unload Ted Ginn Jr.
 
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Which Dolphins WR suffered from drops in 2009?

In speaking of his receivers last week coach Tony Sparano said he was "happy with group of players we have right now, been very productive over the last couple of years, and are continuing to get better."

And that's fine because a coach is supposed to show his players love, sometimes. But a coach is also supposed to know the truth and the truth is the receiver in which the Dolphins have made their biggest financial and emotional investment is not getting better.

Last year when everyone was expecting him to take a major step forward he took a significant step backwards.

That's not opinion.

Ted Ginn regressed in 2009 and the tangible measure of that is available at ProFootballFocus.com as Sam Monson's crew have broken down league-wide drop percentages for pass catchers.

The good news? Greg Camarillo, despite whatever shortcomings he has in his game, is nothing if not dependable. He didn't drop a pass in 2009 in tying for the NFL lead in drop percentage at zero. You cannot get better than zero drop percentage.

Camarillo had 50 catches on the season without a flub.

The bad news? Ginn.

Forget all you know about Ginn's draft pedigree and how in three years he hasn't really lived up to it. He's not dependable no matter if you think of him as a draft bust or a guy who came in as a street free agent. That's because Ginn had a 2009 drop percentage of 20.83, which was the third worst in the NFL behind only Kansas City's Mark Bradley (25.00 drop percentage) and Green Bay's James Jones (21.95 drop percentage).

Pro Football Focus defines a drop as when a receiver gets his hands on a ball, but drops a pass you would reasonably expect to be caught.

According to the tape study by PFF, Ginn dropped 10 passes while catching 38 passes last season. That means the guy dropped one of every five passes thrown to him.

And that followed a 2008 season in which Ginn dropped eight passes while catching 56.

Fewer catches, more drops in 2009. That is not progress.
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Buckeneye;1690021; said:
Holmgren want's "strikers" in Cleveland - look no futher buddy.
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it makes too much sense with all of our draft picks to trade and Teddy being from Cleveland...refusing to get my hopes up after we passed on Troy. The line about wanting "strikers" just makes it seem like a perfect fit, so it won't happen....
 
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