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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

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TG2 would be better off with a change in scenery now. As long as he can go to a team that can use him as a #2 WR and have a QB that is a deep-ball threat, he can be dangerous. I think Detroit could use him to free up Calvin Johnson a bit. STafford surely has the arm strength to throw the ball far enough that Ginn doesn't have to wait for it.

TG2 has been an enigma since he showed up at Miami. He seems to be regressing mentally which is what drives everyone up the wall. Even his drops most people can handle...but the inexplicable running out of bounds is really alarming.

Sure, I would love to see TG2 and Troy Smith reunited somewhere. But I think Baltimore places high value on Troy as a back-up to Flacco. TG2, however, can re-start his career.
 
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Honestly Miami has totally mismanaged that situation. They took him off special teams as still have a slow as molasses guy returning punts to focus on receiving. Then he has a really bad game in which most of their receivers look bad and they bench only him killing his confidence. He had a decent game last week though as far as catching what was thrown at him so he might rebound. However I think he's better off somewhere else.
 
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*Broken record*

He needs to develop hands, but this is the legit burner I've harped on about the Browns drafting. A guy with speed that defenses have to respect, that free's up MM, Furrey, Stuckey, Robo, and the TE's on occasion.

Just like Steve Smith (Carolina) Mohammed wouldn't have been much without him. Neither are true #1 guys, but a 1a 1b type combo - this could be great.

The only issue is how do you respect a guy who can't catch a cold?

I might be a tad bit of a Buckeye homer, but bring Troy and Teddy home...:biggrin:

Hell, bring them ALL home and the Browns just might have a team.
 
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Q: How has Ted Ginn, Jr. bounced back, if at all, from the early season criticism he faced?

TS: I think he?s bounced back very very well. I think that you look at what probably ? the time that Teddy was dealing with the most criticism from the outside was prior to our Jets game, and then he came back in that game and returned two kicks for touchdowns, and was just critical and pivotal in the result of that football game. Little by little, he?s been getting better and better each week and he?s made some plays for us. The guy, I believe, going into last week was leading the league in returns and was catching the ball pretty well out there for us when given the opportunity.

Q: He?s obviously an elite physical player. What does he need to do to take it to the next level as a wide receiver?

TS: One of the things is, sometimes you forget that these guys are young and Teddy?s a young player. I know from his end when we came in here as a coaching staff to where we are right now, Teddy?s taken tremendous strides. He?s grown an awful lot that way in releases and understanding coverages and just the game slowing down for him so he can play faster. Those things have all been important. I think he needs to continue to do those things here, which [Wide Receivers Coach] Karl Dorrell does a great job with him and we?re getting better and better with him
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It Is What It Is ? Tony Sparano Conference call, 12/2
 
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Dolphins notebook: Ted Ginn Jr. wins AFC Player of the Month for big returns
By Brian Biggane and Carlos Frias
Palm Beach Post Staff Writers
Thursday, Dec. 3, 2009

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Ted Ginn leaves everyone in the dust as he runs back his first kickoff for a TD against the Jets.

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Ted Ginn Jr. is a popular Dolphin after returning his second kickoff for a touchdown against the Jets on Nov. 1.

DAVIE ? Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn Jr. continues to prove his worth on special teams.

Ginn, who took over Miami's kick return duties in Week 5 for the injured Patrick Cobbs, was named the AFC Player of the Month for November. In five games last month, he returned 21 kicks for 646 yards, an average of 31.7 yards per return.

Overall, he leads the AFC with a 28.8-yard average among players who have returned at least 25 kicks. That was boosted by his performance on Nov. 1 against New York Jets when he returned six kicks for 299 yards, including touchdown returns of 101 and 100 yards.

Take out that game, and Ginn still would be seventh in the conference with a 23.1 average.

Ginn lost his starting job as a receiver after dropping several passes and did not start for two consecutive games, including against New York. But he made up for it on special teams and has worked his way back into the starting lineup.

"All I can do is keep believing in me," Ginn said.
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Dolphins notebook: Ted Ginn Jr. wins AFC Player of the Month for big returns
 
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ethel merman;1584285; said:
Exactly. They need a real QB bad. If they don't want him, shut up and trade him to the Colts where they know how to use WRs. Or maybe the Saints. Haven't watched enough of Brees to know if he can throw long.
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Miami has a real QB. A really good young one actually.

Ginn needs to start playing more like he did against the Pats. He made some tough catches for first downs, he held onto the ball and didn't drop a thing, he didn't immediately try to run out of bounds as soon as he got the ball, and he did a nice job blocking for his RB's and for the other WR's after the catch.

I think he played probably his best game of the season. He's got all of the athletic ability in the world to be great, he just needs to be consistent, and you can't blame that on his QB or his coaches. It's all on him.
 
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Posted on Thursday, 12.17.09
BY DAVID J. NEAL
[email protected]

Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter verbally slapped down Wednesday's claim by Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson that Dolphins wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. backed out of a match race down Miami Beach's Ocean Drive.

But Porter did acknowledge being a spark behind setting up a Ginn-Johnson race last Memorial Day weekend, when hip-hop-themed parties drew fans, entertainment celebrities and sports figures to South Beach.

``The race was supposed to be here at the [Dolphins' Davie practice] facility. You're not going to have two Pro Bowl guys like that running out there on the concrete in the street,'' Porter said Thursday. ``[Johnson] knew where the race was set up. He was in our town. It was nothing for us to come over here to the facility. You've got all that grass out there, and, if it was raining that day, you've got the bubble.

``We weren't going to race on Ocean Drive. How are you going to clear out the street like that during Memorial Day weekend? Let's be realistic.''

Porter agreed with the account that it started with players talking about their speed at a pool party. Natural competitiveness took over -- Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chad Ochocinco wanted to make it a three-man race, according to Porter -- and people started talking about meeting the next day. Johnson said it was supposed to be on Ocean Drive and that Ginn didn't show, but Porter said it was supposed to be in Davie and that Johnson was busy with his pals doing something else.

As for who would win, Porter, who still wants to see them race, said, ``I'm not setting up the race to bet on Chris Johnson.''
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Ted Ginn Jr. didn't back down from race with Tennessee Titans' Chris Johnson, Joey Porter says - Sports - MiamiHerald.com
Joey Porter weighs in on Ted Ginn-Chris Johnson match race
by Post Staff
We should have known that somehow Joey Porter was going to wind up intimately involved in the planned match race behind Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn Jr. and Tennessee running back Chris Johnson.

According to Porter, not only did he step up and become the matchmaker of the race, but he thinks it still might come off next offseason.

Porter agreed with most of the earlier details: that the idea for the race was formulated at a pool party in South Beach featuring numerous NFL players last May and that it was set to feature Ginn vs. Johnson, two of the fastest players in the NFL.
One thing he doesn’t agree with is it was supposed to be staged on Ocean Drive. He said the preferred setting was the Dolphins training facility in Davie.

“You can’t have two Pro Bowl guys like that running on the concrete,” he said. “We had all that grass out there and you do it in one day and it’s done. (Johnson) knew we weren’t gonna run on Ocean Drive. How can you clear out a street like that on a holiday weekend? Let’s be realistic.”

Porter said Ginn was a “no show” and it was clear he wasn’t happy about it. When asked who he expected to win, he replied, “I’m not setting up the race to bet on Chris Johnson.”

Porter said nobody should be surprised the match race came about.

“It just comes with the natural competition we have. If one guy is getting too much attention for his speed another guy is gonna say something. It happens when you’ve got two fast guys in the building. We had Ted, we had Chris Johnson, Chad Johnson (Ochocinco) was there, he wanted to get in the race. So it’s just the competitive nature in all of us.

“You got somebody saying he can do something better than you, the only way to get to the bottom of it is have it out. Maybe in the offseason we’ll have a chance to find out if this race can take place.”

Porter was a bit cynical (to say the least) when told Johnson claimed he could beat Olympic champion Usain Bolt in a 50-yard race.

“If he thinks he can beat Usain Bolt in the 50, he must not have watched the same race I watched. It wasn’t like Bolt was losing and caught somebody; he was winning the whole race. The slowest guy in the race ran a 9.9. Unless he’s got world-class speed; I don’t remember him going out for the Olympics.

“He’s fast. I’m not going to take that away from him. But we won’t say he’s the fastest person in the league until he beats somebody. He showed us on the field he’s a legit 4.2 (in the 40). But there’s a difference between the 40 and the 100-yard dash. That’s a whole different race.”
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http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...ighs-in-on-ted-ginn-chris-johnson-match-race/
 
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