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WR DeVier Posey (2017 Grey Cup Champion and MVP)

bassbuckeye07;2007425; said:
there is no red shirt but he got fucked and the fact that Gene Smith is suprised bothers me

TP's buddy - let's make an example for the entire college football world to take notice. He made twice as much as the other guys in his summer job but got five times the suspension. Harsh - a skosh!
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2007428; said:
He has five years to play four seasons. He came to OSU in 2008, so this is his fourth year in the program, and since he hasn't played this year and if he sits out the last few games after his return, he can still play next year because it will be his fifth year here and he has only played in three seasons (2008, 2009, 2010). It does not matter why he did not play this year...the fact remains he still has his fifth year in the bank to use provided he does not play this season.

I hope your right because now, I see him a 4th or 5th round bargain in the NFL draft.
 
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Poe McKnoe;2007430; said:
Until the President of the NCAA deems Devier Posey to have made "decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NCAA."

In other words, when the NCAA permanently bans him, which hasn't happened. It may seem like they have in a roundabout way, though...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2007428; said:
He has five years to play four seasons. He came to OSU in 2008, so this is his fourth year in the program, and since he hasn't played this year and if he sits out the last few games after his return, he can still play next year because it will be his fifth year here and he has only played in three seasons (2008, 2009, 2010). It does not matter why he did not play this year...the fact remains he still has his fifth year in the bank to use provided he does not play this season.

Nothing you said here is news to me.

The fact remains, his missed season is because he was suspended for violating NCAA rules. To think that is treated exactly the same as a typical redshirt decision or a medical redshirt is purely assumption at this point, unless you know of a rule allowing it or an instance where a suspended player was granted a redshirt.

Until an official ruling is issued, I am going to find it hard to believe the NCAA would allow a player to recover a season lost to suspension by using a redshirt. If that's possible, it sure as hell is not a deterrent to breaking the rules. It is almost encouraging a player to roll the dice. If I get suspended, so what, I'll just redshirt.
 
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heisman;2007440; said:
According to NCAA rules, he can redshirt.

With all due respect, I'd like to see a source. I guess it wouldn't totally surprise me given the stupidity and inconsistency of NCAA rules, but it really doesn't make much sense (for reasons I just cited in another post).

heisman;2007440; said:
At this point, however, I'm guessing he'll be encouraged to "move on."

I am inclined to agree in this case. Enough is enough, already.
 
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There is no fucking redshirt...unless he wants to sit ten games next year

They are messing with his money...and his lawyer is saying they provided documentation and cell phone records that prove he worked the hours....if thats the case he should sue some how
 
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Jake;2007442; said:
The fact remains, his missed season is because he was suspended for violating NCAA rules. To think that is treated exactly the same as a typical redshirt decision or a medical redshirt is purely assumption at this point, unless you know of a rule allowing it or an instance where a suspended player was granted a redshirt.
Players aren't "granted" redshirts. If you do not play in one of the five years of your eligibility, that's a redshirt. People forget that "redshirt" is simply a term, and not an actual status.

Jake;2007442; said:
Until an official ruling is issued, I am going to find it hard to believe the NCAA would allow a player to recover a season lost to suspension by using a redshirt. If that's possible, it sure as hell is not a deterrent to breaking the rules. It is almost encouraging a player to roll the dice. If I get suspended, so what, I'll just redshirt.
He's not "recovering" a year. He'll simply be using his fifth year of eligibity to play his fourth season. If you want an instance of "recovering" a year, it would be the case of being granted a sixth year of eligibility due to injury, which is granted only after the normal five years have been used.

Jake;2007442; said:
Nothing you said here is news to me.
Evidently there is...
 
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bassbuckeye07;2007446; said:
There is no fucking redshirt...unless he wants to sit ten games next year.

Read me above posts. Has has another year of elgibility. There is no reason why he has to sit any games next year, unless the NCAA comes up with more shit.
 
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Jake;2007443; said:
With all due respect, I'd like to see a source. I guess it wouldn't totally surprise me given the stupidity and inconsistency of NCAA rules, but it really doesn't make much sense (for reasons I just cited in another post).



I am inclined to agree in this case. Enough is enough, already.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/ncaa...+and+Recruiting/Faqs/eligibility_seasons.html

Redshirt Definition
The term "redshirt" is used to describe a student-athlete who does not participate in competition in a sport for an entire academic year. If you do not compete in a sport the entire academic year, you have not used a season of competition. For example, if you are a qualifier, and you attend a four-year college your freshman year, and you practice but do not compete against outside competition, you would still have the next four years to play four seasons of competition.
Each student is allowed no more than four seasons of competition per sport. If you were not a qualifier, you may have fewer seasons of competition available to you. You should know that NCAA rules indicate that any competition, regardless of time, during a season counts as one of your seasons of competition in that sport. It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.
Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.
 
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Really unfortunate the punishment is far too harsh. NCAA is just tired of OSU and handing out the worst punishments it can. Really hurts DeVier's draft stock, it's a shame there messing with his future he has paid enough. A 2 game suspension would have been more justified and he still misses 7 his senior year.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2007450; said:
Players aren't "granted" redshirts. If you do not play in one of the five years of your eligibility, that's a redshirt. People forget that "redshirt" is simply a term, and not an actual status.


He's not "recovering" a year. He'll simply be using his fifth year of eligibity to play his fourth season. If you want an instance of "recovering" a year, it would be the case of being granted a sixth year of eligibility due to injury, which is granted only after the normal five years have been used.


Evidently there is...

The rules apply to a "qualifier" for NCAA competition. How the hell is a suspended player a "qualifier" for NCAA competition?

Dig a little deeper, Don Ho. :roll1:
 
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