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WR Cris Carter (All B1G, All-American, 8x Pro Bowler, 3x All Pro, NFL HOF)

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Cris Carter

Rec. 1101 Yards 13,899 Avg yards/rec 12.6 TD's 130

8 Pro Bowls, 2 First team All-Pro over 234 games

Tim Brown

Rec. 1094 Yards 14,936 Avg yards/rec. 13.7 TD's 100

9 Pro Bowls over 255 games

Carter's #'s would have probably been higher if he Hadn't played for Buddy Ryan in his first years in the league. However, him being waived by Philly probably was the wake-up call he needed and saved his life and career.....
 
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Carter's problem is he has a small but vocal group against his candidacy, and with the number of voters it doesn't take many. For what it's worth, I don't predict Tim Brown as first ballot either...I think they will give the WR stage to Jerry Rice by himself, as they should. The following year (2011) could be Brown and/or Carter. It really crushes guys like Andre Reed, who keeps getting pushed further down the list as he keeps burning up years of eligibility.
 
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Bucklion;1436845; said:
Carter's problem is he has a small but vocal group against his candidacy, and with the number of voters it doesn't take many. For what it's worth, I don't predict Tim Brown as first ballot either...I think they will give the WR stage to Jerry Rice by himself, as they should. The following year (2011) could be Brown and/or Carter. It really crushes guys like Andre Reed, who keeps getting pushed further down the list as he keeps burning up years of eligibility.
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I just dont see the argument AGAINST him....granted I'm biased...someone help me out here, what ammo do they have to say he isnt a HOF?
 
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brodybuck21;1436872; said:
I just dont see the argument AGAINST him....granted I'm biased...someone help me out here, what ammo do they have to say he isnt a HOF?
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Politics. The people that are not voting for him probably just do not like him. Also, how many in the HOF have basically been cut by a team for off the field behavior?

Not saying I agree with his exclusion, just trying to rationalize
 
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Basebuck;1436884; said:
Politics. The people that are not voting for him probably just do not like him. Also, how many in the HOF have basically been cut by a team for off the field behavior?

Not saying I agree with his exclusion, just trying to rationalize
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Thanx for the feedback. Just baffling to me
 
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25 Years Ago: Cris Carter
By Joe - June 19th, 2009

Some guys were born to sell, others were given a head for business, and others were seemingly put on this earth to make music. You know the type: a natural. But if there ever was a guy who was made for catching footballs, it is Cris Carter.

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Good guys wear white?and scarlet and gray

Carter?s NFL career is nothing short of legendary. After forfeiting his senior season in Columbus for taking money from an agent, he was drafted in the first round of the supplemental draft in 1987 by the Philadelphia Eagles. However, in 1989 the Eagles released him, and then-coach Buddy Ryan declared ?All he does is catch touchdowns?.

But after hooking on with the Vikings, Carter rose to superstar status, finishing his career 2nd all-time in NFL history in receptions and receiving yards (Jerry Rice is first in both categories). He made the Pro Bowl 8 times and was named to the NFL 1990?s All-Decade team.

During his 3-year career at Ohio State, Cris Carter caught 168 passes for 2,725 yards and 27 touchdowns, all of which were school records at the time. During his junior year, he had 5 straight games of over 100 yards receiving, which is still a school record. As a freshman in 1984, he was 2nd on the team with 41 receptions (Keith Byars led the team with 42).

Carter was a Parade All-American and USA Today All-American during his senior year at Middletown High School. I remember watching a highlight video of him in high school, and I was amazed at the way he went up for the ball. He had great vision, and as he measured the trajectory of the pass, he would gather himself like a basketball player going up for a rebound and suddenly spring up and grab it. But the style was not surprising when you consider that he came from a self-proclaimed ?basketball family? (his brother Butch played for Bob Knight at Indiana and played several years in the NBA).
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25 Years Ago: Cris Carter | Eleven Warriors
 
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Classic Cris Carter addressing the Rookie Symposium...

NFL Videos: Avoiding pitfalls

Do Not Sleep When Cris Carter Is Speaking
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 1, 2009

The NFL Rookie Symposium is hardly the only work-related seminar to put some of its attendees to sleep.

But it's the only one that has a legendary wide receiver on hand to wake you up. Then rip you.

Cris Carter reportedly got after a rookie that was dozing off to the former Viking's soothing voice.

Using the moment as a teaching point, Carter told him that players who don't want to learn from those who know more than they do won't last long in the NFL.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/01/do-not-sleep-when-cris-carter-is-speaking/

The final speaker at the symposium was former NFL wide receiver and current ESPN analyst Cris Carter — and he brought the noise. One player made the mistake of dozing off while Carter was speaking, and the player was awakened by a scolding he won’t forget. Carter pointed out to the audience — but also to the player — that if you don’t want to listen to people who know more than you and who can help you navigate through what lies ahead, then odds are you won’t be in the league for long because someone who does want to learn will take your job.

On that note, Carter warned the rookies that the veteran players they will try to replace are competing for mortgages, car notes and their families. So when training camp arrives, the rookies will face competition like they’ve never experienced. But Carter praised the rookies for being a talented group and told them it’s their job to take someone’s job -– just as it will be for next year’s rookie to take their jobs.

It was great, great stuff.
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http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/07/01/colorful-conclusion-to-the-rookie-symposium/
 
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Straight talk puts scare into NFL rookies
League does its part to prepare players for perils of life in the spotlight.
Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Think "Scared Straight!" meets the NFL.

In case you missed the reference, "Scared Straight!" was a 1978 documentary about convicts at New Jersey's Rahway State Prison who warned juvenile delinquents about the brutal realities of prison life. The documentary spawned programs nationwide designed to steer youngsters away from a life of crime.

Now, the NFL isn't Rahway, but commissioner Roger Goodell would make a mighty fine warden. He would be a lot more believable than that thieving, fake Bible thumper in Shawshank. Anyway, his league's answer to "Scared Straight!" comes in the form of the NFL rookie symposium, an event that's one part seminar and one part freshman orientation.

There were times last week when former Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo didn't know if he was at a league function or a tent revival, but Rak and the other 255 draft picks had a truck load of literature dropped on their collective domes over four days in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.

One of the featured speakers was ESPN studio analyst Cris Carter, a Hall of Fame wide receiver who testified about the trappings that can kill a promising career. The young Carter was a mess. He was thrown out of Ohio State for dealing with an agent, then became a cocaine abuser early in his NFL career, prompting Philadelphia Eagles coach Buddy Ryan to release him after a season in which he caught 11 touchdown passes. It was the best thing that ever happened to him, Carter has said on more than one occasion.

Others in his line of work have fallen prey to numerous temptations: drugs, shady business deals, sexual indiscretions, drunken driving, steroids, street crime, and yes, dogfighting.

Carter's message was simple: Do what I say, not what I did.

"This is a grown man's league," he barked. "This ain't no little boys' league."

Then he yelled at a player he caught napping during the speech. Beautiful.

"It was something to hear him talk about his drug situation and being released,'' said Orakpo, who went to the Washington Redskins with the 12th pick of the first round. "He said he had to get his life together because he had lost his job and couldn't feed his family."

Orakpo didn't know the name of the rookie who drew Carter's ire
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Straight talk puts scare into NFL rookies
 
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Carter is on Mike & Mike this morning with Reece Davis hosting. I am at work but was able to catch a few mins in the lounge. I think he's doing very good from what I say as a host. They had him fired up this morning ready to hurt somebody. Some guy emailed in a list of NFL superstars who'd never won a superbowl and the way he worded it was something along the lines of "Here's a list of NFL greats who never accomplished anything" or something very similar.

Carter went absolutely off for like 15mins about the guys on the list and how good they were and how football is the ultimate team sport. Basically just blasted the emailer which was pretty funny.
 
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