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WR Cris Carter (All B1G, All-American, 8x Pro Bowler, 3x All Pro, NFL HOF)

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ShakerBuck;1395750; said:
Chris being selected wouldn't have taken anybody else's spot, they are allowed to vote in up to 7 in each class, and only 6 got voted in.

This is f*ing ridiculous, his resume speaks for itself. 1100+ catches 130 TDs 8 pro bowls!!!
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He'll get his chance.

The selection committee seems like they get an ego stroke by making guys sweat.

Personally, I find it deplorable.
 
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Thump;1395752; said:
He'll get his chance.

The selection committee seems like they get an ego stroke by making guys sweat.

Personally, I find it deplorable.
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He should have gotten in last year...I mean Art Monk was a great player but Cris' numbers are so much better...I'm sure we probably discussed it last year at this time, but geez: Carter beats Monk 1101 to 940 in career receptions, 13899 to 12721 in receiving yardage and 130 to 68 in TDs. Monk got elected instead of him.

So I guess after not getting elected last year, I thought he was a shoe in this time. Seems crazy to me.

Oh well...what do I know? :(
 
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buckeyes_rock;1395759; said:
He should have gotten in last year...I mean Art Monk was a great player but Cris' numbers are so much better...I'm sure we probably discussed it last year at this time, but geez: Carter beats Monk 1101 to 940 in career receptions, 13899 to 12721 in receiving yardage and 130 to 68 in TDs. Monk got elected instead of him.

So I guess after not getting elected last year, I thought he was a shoe in this time. Seems crazy to me.

Oh well...what do I know? :(
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Monk played in a less pass-happy NFL than Carter did so that has to be taken into account.

I'd be lying if I didn't think committee members didn't take Super Bowls into account.
 
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Thump;1395729; said:
Can't say I feel Carter belongs in before any listed above except for Derrick Thomas.
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Yeah, all of those guys deserve to be in. Carter will get in, and I sincerely doubt that he'll have to wait as long as Derrick Thomas did.

Hopefully they won't hesitate to put 2 WRs in next year, since Jerry Rice is a first-ballot guy if there ever was one.

Only Bruce Smith and Rod Woodson were first-ballot guys this year, and they both deserved that disctinction.
 
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buckeyes_rock;1395759; said:
He should have gotten in last year...I mean Art Monk was a great player but Cris' numbers are so much better...I'm sure we probably discussed it last year at this time, but geez: Carter beats Monk 1101 to 940 in career receptions, 13899 to 12721 in receiving yardage and 130 to 68 in TDs. Monk got elected instead of him.

So I guess after not getting elected last year, I thought he was a shoe in this time. Seems crazy to me.

Oh well...what do I know? :(
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I'm with you and I know we all went over this last year but it worth repeating.

Art Monk is in the HOF while Cris Carter and Randy Gradishar are not. Fuck everyone who votes on this and anyone who looks like them.
 
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Jaxbuck;1395914; said:
I'm with you and I know we all went over this last year but it worth repeating.

Art Monk is in the HOF while Cris Carter and Randy Gradishar are not. [censored] everyone who votes on this and anyone who looks like them.
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Carter is a lock to make it eventually...Gradishar is the real travesty, as it seems like his "push" is over.
 
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Cris Carter Will Get the Art Monk Treatment in Hall of Fame Voting
Posted Feb 1st 2009 9:55 AM by Michael David Smith (author feed)


TAMPA, Fla. -- I believe Cris Carter will one day be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But in talking to some Hall of Fame voters both before and after Saturday's selection meeting, I also believe that Carter, like fellow possession receiver Art Monk before him, will have a long wait before enshrinement in Canton.

When I talked to some Hall of Fame voters before the selection meeting, it sounded like Carter would be a very close call: Some voters said his raw numbers alone (1,101 catches,130 receiving touchdowns and 13,899 receiving yards) were enough to get him in, while there was a minority opinion that he didn't make enough big plays.

But I've heard from a couple of Hall of Fame voters after the meeting who said there is a fair amount of anti-Carter sentiment in the room when the 44 voters get together. Carter made it past the first round of voting, when the field of 15 candidates was cut to 10, but not past the second round of voting, when the 10 semifinalists were cut to five finalists. (Senior candidates are voted on separately.)

It also appears that some voters were persuaded during the meeting to vote "no" on Carter and "yes" on Bills owner Ralph Wilson. Jim Trotter of SI.com writes of Wilson, "there was a groundswell of support once his candidacy was discussed, particularly with the coming season representing the 50th anniversary of the AFL."
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Cris Carter Will Get the Art Monk Treatment in Hall of Fame Voting - NFL FanHouse
 
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Yeah... I don't understand the anti-Carter sentiment. It would be harder to argue that he is NOT one of the NFL's all-time great WRs than it would be to validate that he is one of the best. Lots of egos among those picked to choose who's in and who's out, it seems.

He WILL get in. I'm willing to bet he gets in sooner rather than later, too.
 
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What bothers me is making the great ones wait it out. You know Cris is HOF. I know he is HOF. The writers/voters/idiots know he is HOF.

A lot can happen in a year. Jerome Brown, Derrick Thomas, Sean Taylor, Darrent Williams, etc...

Cris deserved to be in by now, and it is a damn shame he still awaits the call.
 
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Carter's wait for Hall just part of the process
Feb. 3, 2009
By Ray Ratto
CBSSports.com Columnist

Lost in the pre- and post-Super Bowl hoop-de-blah was Saturday's announcement of the latest Pro Football Hall of Fame class, and its lack of Cris Carter.

Oh, a few people have wondered about it, but not that many, which leads us to the following conclusions:

? One, the nation does not agonize over Carter's induction.

? Two, the selectors are wary of anyone who has big numbers without big deeds behind them.

? Three, the backlog of great players still not in the Hall is fairly daunting for any voter.

? And four, the nation might finally understand that if you are not a slam-dunk selection like Joe Montana or Walter Payton, you have to wait, pure and simple.

That last one -- about the nation's understanding -- we frankly doubt, but we thought we'd throw it out there as a gesture of generosity.

In other words, most of the players proclaimed as mortal locks for the Hall of Fame actually aren't mortal locks at all, and the sooner that is made clear, the better.

And there is no better way to point this out than to use Cris Carter.

His numbers are gaudy -- he is third in history in receptions and second in touchdowns -- but he falls into the loose category of "compiler," someone who has big numbers and nothing more. And in the room, there is a clear and historical resistance to "compilers" unless they have a well-developed postseason/Super Bowl/extraordinary moments r?sum? to go with it.
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Carter's wait for Hall just part of the process - CBSSports.com News, Fantasy, Video
 
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Cris Carter's 2010 Chances by Mack McClurkan (Contributor)
March 20, 2009

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Looking ahead to next year Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, and Tim Brown are all likely going to be first ballot hall of famers. That makes me believe that for a third consecutive year Cris Carter will fail to make the cut for Canton. It's going to be hard for alot of Minnesota Vikings fans to stomach but I believe it's probably already a reality.
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Cris Carter's 2010 Chances | Bleacher Report
 
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