WR Cris Carter (All B1G, All-American, 8x Pro Bowler, 3x All Pro, NFL HOF)

[Buckskin86]

Middletown grad Carter once again finalist for NFL Hall of Fame
Former Middletown, OSU standout a finalist for NFL Hall of Fame for third straight year
By Staff Report
Friday, February 5, 2010

Maybe the third time will be the charm for Middletown High School product Cris Carter.

Carter is one of 17 finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame?s Class of 2010, which will be announced at 5 p.m., Saturday, Feb. 6, in Miami, Fla, site of Super Bowl XLIV.

Carter, 44, is a finalist for the third straight year.

A minimum of four and a maximum of seven finalists will be chosen for this year?s class by the Hall?s Board of Selectors.

Carter, who played 16 seasons in the NFL, ranks third on the all-time list in total receptions (1,101) and fourth in receiving touchdowns (130). He was selected to play in eight Pro Bowls (1993-2000 seasons).

Before his NFL career, Carter was a standout at Ohio State University and Middletown High School.

Other finalists are Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Tim Brown, Andre Reed, Shannon Sharpe, Roger Craig, Dermontti Dawson, Russ Grimm, John Randle, Cortez Kennedy, Richard Dent, Charles Haley, Rickey Jackson, Don Coryell, Floyd Little and Dick LeBeau.

Middletown grad Carter once again finalist for NFL Hall of Fame

Carter, Randle await word from Hall
Posted by Judd Zulgad
Last update: February 5, 2010

Former Vikings wide receiver Cris Carter and defensive tackle John Randle are among the 17 finalists who will be considered for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2010 when the Hall's 44-member selection committee meets on Saturday in South Florida. The announcement will be made on Saturday afternoon.

Carter and Randle also were finalists last season. This is Carter's third year of eligibility and Randle's second. Running back Roger Craig, who is best remembered for his time with San Francisco but spent two seasons with the Vikings, also is a finalist.

The Hall's current ground rules stipulate that between four and seven new members will be selected each year. No more than five modern-era candidates can be elected in a given year and a class of six or seven inductees can only be achieved if one or both senior nominees (former Detroit Lions cornerback Dick LeBeau and former Denver Broncos running back Floyd Little) are selected.

This class has at least two first-time nominees who should be locks for induction in wide receiver Jerry Rice and running back Emmitt Smith.

A finalist must receive a minimum positive vote of 80 percent to be elected. The results will be announced at 4 p.m. Saturday during a two-hour NFL Network show from the Broward County Convention Center.

Carter, Randle await word from Hall | StarTribune.com

 

[Buckskin86]

Former coach: Carter ?deserves? hall of fame Hot TopicsFree grocery coupons
By Rick McCrabb, Staff Writer
Updated Saturday, February 6, 2010

MIDDLETOWN ? Despite what the voters think, Jack Gordon, who coached Cris Carter for two seasons at Middletown High School, believes Carter should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

?He deserves to be in,? Gordon, who coached Carter as a freshman and sophomore, said Saturday, Feb. 6.

But Carter?s name was not on the list of seven NFL hall of fame inductees who were named by the NFL and announced at the site of the Super Bowl in Miami, Fla. Saturday.

Those on the list included Russ Grimm, Rickey Jackson, John Randle, Jerry Rice, and Emmitt Smith and they were joined by seniors committee honorees Dick LeBeau and Floyd Little.

Gordon called Rice and Smith ?great players,? but said Carter was equally talented.

?I don?t understand how they keep him out,? Gordon said of the selection. ?I really don?t. How can you not put him in??

Former coach: Carter ‘deserves’ hall of fame

Carter keeping his spirits up
Posted by Mark Craig
Last update: February 6, 2010

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- I talked to Cris Carter a little while ago. He's obviously disappointed about getting denied access to the Hall of Fame for the third consecutive year.

But he said he's keeping his spirits up.

"I don't have any other choice," he said.

I was one of the 44 Hall of Fame selectors. I presented Carter, who didn't get in, and John Randle, who did get in.

I'm not allowed to give specifics of what is said in the room. But I can explain in general terms why Carter is still waiting while many fans believe he should have gotten in two years ago.

Talking to long-time selectors who are well into double digits in years of service on the committee, they all said this was one of the most impressive fields in many years.

No more than five modern-era players can make it in one year. Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith got two of those the minute they were put on the ballot. We didn't even discuss those two players because their careers spoke loudly enough.

So that was three spots for 13 players. Players like Russ Grimm, who had been a finalist for six consecutive years. Grimm was the best linemen of the famous Redskins' Hogs. Not one of the Hogs was in the Hall of Fame until Grimm got in today.

It's hard to argue with finally recognizing the best player on the best offensive line of the 1980s, if not one of the best ever.

The argument I made for Randle was simple: He was the best defensive tackle of the 1990s. By a mile. So it's hard to argue with putting him in.

And Rickey Jackson had numbers similar to Lawrence Taylor. Rickey was an outstanding player who was a finalist for the first time after being eligible for 10 years. He kind of fell through the cracks since he played in New Orleans.

The biggest surprise when we went from 15 to 10 was seeing Carter get cut. He made the final 10 last year. Andre Reed made the final 10 this year.

I clearly think Carter should be the first receiver in the Hall of Fame behind Jerry Rice. His touchdown total (130) and talent both suggest that's the pecking order. Now that Rice is in, perhaps Carter will get in next season.

It's not giving away trade secrets to say the selectors are struggling with how to judge the numbers being posted by receivers in the modern passing game. I think Carter, Reed and Brown will all get in eventually. That would give us five receivers from the 1990s, including Rice and Michael Irvin. That's not an outrageous number by any means.

Carter keeping his spirits up | StarTribune.com

 

[osucollegebuck]

at least Lebeau got it

 

[cjmik_75]

I guess it's all about Super Bowls or atleast playing in one. Joe Namath didn't have the stats of a typical HOF selection. A career 62-63 win/loss a 65.5 career passer rating and 173 TD to 220 INT. AFL league champ in 68, super bowl III champ and only pro bowl selection all in 1968.

CC's stats don't even come close to Joe Willie.

Ridiculous.



My bad Joe Willie was a 5 time pro bowler. That explains it.

CC only had 8.

 

[Buckeye Nut]

I guess it's all about Super Bowls or atleast playing in one.

Not really. How many Super Bowls did John Randle play in? Floyd Little never played in a playoff game. Rickey Jackson won like one playoff game with the Saints and didn't make it to a Super Bowl till the end of his career when he wa a role player with the 49ers. Dick LeBeau never played in an NFL title game or played in a Super Bowl. It's much more about being a great player, the Super Bowls help but they aren't the main determining factor as evidenced by this class. People need to relax, Cris will have his time.

 

[matcar]

Not really. How many Super Bowls did John Randle play in? Floyd Little never played in a playoff game. Rickey Jackson won like one playoff game with the Saints and didn't make it to a Super Bowl till the end of his career when he wa a role player with the 49ers. Dick LeBeau never played in an NFL title game or played in a Super Bowl. It's much more about being a great player, the Super Bowls help but they aren't the main determining factor as evidenced by this class. People need to relax, Cris will have his time.

I agree that he will get his time, but I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised he hasn't made it. When he left the game, wasn't the the 2nd all time receiver in terms of receptions...with only Rice in front? I mean, that's pretty exclusive company...

 

[Buckeye Buh Nim]

columbus sports radio guy today claims the snub is because Carter was a jerk to the press.

 

[cjmik_75]

Not really. How many Super Bowls did John Randle play in? Floyd Little never played in a playoff game. Rickey Jackson won like one playoff game with the Saints and didn't make it to a Super Bowl till the end of his career when he wa a role player with the 49ers. Dick LeBeau never played in an NFL title game or played in a Super Bowl. It's much more about being a great player, the Super Bowls help but they aren't the main determining factor as evidenced by this class. People need to relax, Cris will have his time.

Thanks for making my point. Being a great player should be the measuring stick to get in the HOF. My point was Namath got in for what? Being a great player? His stats would say slightly above average but not great.

 

[Bucklion]

columbus sports radio guy today claims the snub is because Carter was a jerk to the press.

Well that's definitely the case with Tagliabue. As I said in the other thread, there's about 8 of the 44 who for whatever reason are adamantly against his candidacy...a couple have to change their minds or else he won't even make the final cut. He was part of the first cut this year with Haley, Craig, Brown, and Coryell. He didn't even make the final 10. Unfortunately, his trip in isn't anywhere near a guarantee, especially since Andre Reed and Shannon Sharpe made it further than he did this year.

 

[matcar]

Well that's definitely the case with Tagliabue. As I said in the other thread, there's about 8 of the 44 who for whatever reason are adamantly against his candidacy...a couple have to change their minds or else he won't even make the final cut. He was part of the first cut this year with Haley, Craig, Brown, and Coryell. He didn't even make the final 10. Unfortunately, his trip in isn't anywhere near a guarantee, especially since Andre Reed and Shannon Sharpe made it further than he did this year.

OK, but now Cris IS a press guy...you'd think that would eventually smooth over...guess we'll see.

 

[Buckeye Nut]

Thanks for making my point. Being a great player should be the measuring stick to get in the HOF. My point was Namath got in for what? Being a great player? His stats would say slightly above average but not great.

Namath was a great player, just for a shorter period of time because of injuries. Judging solely on stats is not a good way to judge. If those that watched him play in that era think he's worthy then that's good enough for me. Almost everyone has to wait a few years unless you're a sure fire first first ballot type of guy. Little and LeBeau had to wait over 30 years although Cris won't have to wait that long. Be patient.

 

[twoodbuck97]

I wish the press had no say in voting for HOF players in any league. Living members of any HOF should vote for these guys. Who knows the sport better than the men who played and coached the game. You mean to tell me only Dawson was worthy for baseball this year? These journalist have too much control in this matter on something they probably never participated in. Carter could have been a jerk but his game speaks for itself.

 

[Buckskin86]

Wednesday (The Case for Cris Carter) edition: Wha' Happened?
Posted by Michael Rand
Last update: February 10, 2010

We've had this thought stewing around for a few days. And then the other day, Stu reminded us of it. That's a lot of stew/Stu, so maybe it's finally time to address it: we can see how maybe, just maybe, in a year with Jerry Rice becoming eligible, football Hall of Fame voters didn't want to let any more wide receivers gain election. It's kind of silly (and even a little counterintuitive considering QBs Troy Aikman and Warren Moon were enshrined in 2006, as were Steve Young and Dan Marino in 2005). But if they really wanted Rice to stand on his own and not share the spotlight with another WR, then we can at least understand it.

But how, in the name of all that is pure and good, does former Vikings WR Cris Carter not even survive the cut down from 15 to 10?

Let's do a quick number check: When he retired, Carter was second all-time in receptions. He's still number 3. He caught 1,101 passes. Seriously. He had eight consecutive 1,000 yard seasons and five consecutive seasons with at least 10 TD passes. He had two seasons where he caught exactly 122 passes, which is even more impressive considering many of those weren't just the extended handoffs of the 2009 dink-and-dunk attacks. (Yes, he caught his share of shorties, but we don't remember an over-abundance of cheapies). He was not Jerry Rice. But he was next. He made unbelievable catches and had the best hands of anyone we've watched play.

Wednesday (The Case for Cris Carter) edition: Wha' Happened? | StarTribune.com

 

[Buckskin86]

Gleason's Sporting World: If Cris Carter is not an NFL Hall of Famer, then who is?
AP
Posted: February 14, 2010

Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Cris Carter celebrates a touchdown catch against the Buffalo Bills Oct. 22, 2000 in Minneapolis. Carter is the second player in NFL history with more than 1,000 receptions. (AP Photo/Tom Olmscheid)

Points to ponder while wondering how Cris Carter could have failed to be voted into the Hall of Fame for the third time.

Carter didn't just miss the cut this time. He didn't survive the first nominee cutdown from 15 to 10 players, making it the worst snub since Michael Jordan was cut from his high school varsity team as a sophomore.

Carter retired second in league history with 130 touchdowns catches. In 11 seasons from 1991-2001, Carter averaged 89 catches, 1,088 yards and 10 touchdowns. Not even Jerry Rice, with unprecedented lifetime stats, had better numbers during that period. Carter's final digits: 1,101 catches and 13,899 yards to go with those 130 TDs.

And he's not worthy of the Hall of Fame?

Gleason's Sporting World: If Cris Carter is not an NFL Hall of Famer, then who is? | recordonline.com

 

[BB73]

Another Carter legacy will be an athlete at tOSU. Cris's daughter Monterae, a soccer player, will be a freshman in 2011.

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