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Buckeye Nut;778246; said:
I kind of like the idea of Wilson moving inside. It gives us more athleticism at the tackle position like we saw from Florida in the championship game. I think that Florida game might have influenced a move to smaller but more athletic tackles, kind of like the Florida State Sugar Bowl opened the coaches eyes to the fact we need to rotate more guys in on the line.
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Moving guys from end to DT is nothing new under Coach Tressel. Since he's been here, I can recall having only a couple of guys that were considered true DT's. Peterson, Scott and Patterson all played DE and DT at some point in their careers at Ohio State. Pitcock, Anderson, and Bailey are the only two that spent their entire time under Tressel as DTs. And Bailey really doesn't count, since he only had one year with Tressel.
 
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Buckeye Nut;778246; said:
I kind of like the idea of Wilson moving inside. It gives us more athleticism at the tackle position like we saw from Florida in the championship game. I think that Florida game might have influenced a move to smaller but more athletic tackles, kind of like the Florida State Sugar Bowl opened the coaches eyes to the fact we need to rotate more guys in on the line.
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While it's way too early to read too much into this, this may be an indication that the four best athletes, regardless of position, are going to get the first shot along the D-line. My only question about the "smaller, but more athletic tackles", - will that be effective against the teams that you need to beat, to win the Big 10 championship (specifically UM and Wisky)? Hypothetical question, by the way, not a criticism. Power versus athleticism will make for intriguing matchups. One more very important thing, when the pads come on, a more definitive picture will emerge. Great thread for March. :biggrin:
 
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808 Buck;778484; said:
While it's way too early to read too much into this, this may be an indication that the four best athletes, regardless of position, are going to get the first shot along the D-line. My only question about the "smaller, but more athletic tackles", - will that be effective against the teams that you need to beat, to win the Big 10 championship (specifically UM and Wisky)? Hypothetical question, by the way, not a criticism. Power versus athleticism will make for intriguing matchups. One more very important thing, when the pads come on, a more definitive picture will emerge. Great thread for March. :biggrin:
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No doubt 808...I think we'll see more of the "space eater" 1-tech this year which will seem like a letdown since Quinn made so many plays that he had no business making. However, the 3-tech is going to be a playmaker...just a hunch.
 
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Do you think moving a Defensive lineman down to DT will allow us to go to a 3-4 at times, dropping either Wilson or Gholston(maybe Rose, but we don't really know how he looks in real game, extended length of time situations) into coverage, or even standing them up and moving them around a little bit?

Speed on the Dline should be an incredible advantage for us, and I'd like to think that the coaches are thinking more along the lines of how we can use this to our advantage rather than wondering if this will bite us in the ass at Michigan or against Wisconsin.

This could also make sense with the supposed emergence of Thad Gibson as a rush lb.
 
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I don't think it would be our base, but just looking at the sheer amount of athleticism, I would think it could be something that we would use regularly.

I mean, Rose, Wilson, and Gholston all on the line at the same time would be a ridiculous amount of athleticism(in addition to Denlinger who is no slouch himself). If this happens, would the 3-4(or some variation) be the best way of utilizing this?

It seems like standing up Gholston on occasion would be a very nice option since he's proven that he can drop back effectively.
 
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If the Wilson rumor is true, I'm not sure if that says we are that weak at DT that we need to move a gifted DE into the middle, or if that is telling of the talent we have at DE (get the best four on the field type mindset)... This could be really good news or really bad news based on how you look at it...
 
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gbearbuck;779581; said:
If the Wilson rumor is true, I'm not sure if that says we are that weak at DT that we need to move a gifted DE into the middle, or if that is telling of the talent we have at DE (get the best four on the field type mindset)... This could be really good news or really bad news based on how you look at it...
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I would take it for what it is - an effort to get the four most athletic defensive linemen on the field. It's early in the process, time for experimenting, trying out different combinations, identifying who is capable of what. That's one of the fun things about spring. When the pads come on, we will find out much more.
 
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gbearbuck;779581; said:
If the Wilson rumor is true, I'm not sure if that says we are that weak at DT that we need to move a gifted DE into the middle, or if that is telling of the talent we have at DE (get the best four on the field type mindset)... This could be really good news or really bad news based on how you look at it...
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Probably a little bit of both..but I do think it speaks volumes about what they think of Rob Rose as a DE.

On a side note, I was pumped about Signing Nader a few years back, and unfortunately he clearly isn't developing like people thought he would
 
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The bottom line is D-line (especially DT) is the hardest position to project at the next level. You are going to have some 5-star no question about it talents (Like Pitcock), some diamonds in the rough types who excel despite physical shortcomings, and some guys who clearly never will live up their billing.

As other posters have stated - Heacock does whatever it takes to get the best 11 athletes on the field at the same time - which is amazing. When I played in college (granted at the Div II and Div III level), I played for coaches who wanted players to fit their system and not the other way around.

That approach can really lead to stagnancy (if that is even a word) in your program. Just take a look @ meeshigan. They haven't evolved in 15 years. Their approach to the game in 1990 is the same as their approach today. But the results are vastly different!
 
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If accurate, a Wilson move says two things to me. First, that there is concern that DTackle is a little thin talent wise, and second, Robert Rose is emerging with the skills that most of us thought he had coming into the year. If true, and if Wilson is big/strong enough to be effective inside, I would be happy as a clam.

Go Bucks!
 
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