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Who's the Greatest Buckeye Quarterback? (Please vote for two)

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Who's the Greatest Buckeye Quarterback? (Please vote for two)

  • Joe Germaine

    Votes: 36 13.4%

  • Cornelius Greene

    Votes: 8 3.0%

  • Bobby Hoying

    Votes: 15 5.6%

  • Rex Kern

    Votes: 115 42.8%

  • Craig Krenzel

    Votes: 63 23.4%

  • Art Schlichter

    Votes: 45 16.7%

  • Troy Smith

    Votes: 227 84.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Total voters
    269
  • Poll closed .
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I have Krenzel and Troy in that order and Kern a close 3rd. Krenzels performance in 2002 considering the team he had to work with was
brilliant and did alot on his own in the purdue and Illinois games. The one big thing that hurt Rex Kern was his not so good performance with 6 Int's in the 69 Michigan game. Ohio State had a great chance to finish undefeated in the 69 season and possible N/C game. The one great ability that Kern had was his the fake keepers and smooth hand offs he could perform with Brockington and Otis.
 
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kippy1040;915926; said:
I have Krenzel and Troy in that order and Kern a close 3rd. Krenzels performance in 2002 considering the team he had to work with was
brilliant and did alot on his own in the purdue and Illinois games. The one big thing that hurt Rex Kern was his not so good performance with 6 Int's in the 69 Michigan game. Ohio State had a great chance to finish undefeated in the 69 season and possible N/C game. The one great ability that Kern had was his the fake keepers and smooth hand offs he could perform with Brockington and Otis.
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tOSU would not have gone to a bowl after the 1969 season, win or lose in AA. The 'no repeat' rule would have kept them home - but they would have won the NC without going to the bowl.
 
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SparkyOSU;914733; said:
Krenzel did just as many amazing things without being the athlete smith was. He also did it with a group of guys that less national attention.
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My issue with picking Krenzel here is that he was the biggest beneficiary of a superior defense, arguably one the greatest (and entirely underrated) defensive lines to ever go through the college ranks. FWIW, Smith, Anderson, Peterson, and Scott were all first day draft picks, and have thus far combined for 72 NFL starts and 161 NFL games played. If the OSU defense gave the Krenzel lead offense a few extra possessions, either from TOs or 3-and-outs, OSU might add a FG or a TD, but when the OSU defense gave Troy extra possessions, they struck right back for demoralizing, game ending TDs.

When Krenzel lead the team, I usually wondered if they'd score 17 points and whether or not that'd be enough to win with that defense. When Troy took the field, I usually wondered if they'd cover the spread.

I don't want to besmirch Krenzel. He was a GREAT QB. But, in my book, its Troy and then everybody else. January 8 is inconsequential to the discussion to me, because Troy didn't play D, didn't design a defensive game plan that gave a four-year starter from a SEC program soft zone coverage, and Troy didn't play O-Line either.
 
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BB73;916109; said:
tOSU would not have gone to a bowl after the 1969 season, win or lose in AA. The 'no repeat' rule would have kept them home - but they would have won the NC without going to the bowl.
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Just out of curiosity, when did the "no repeat" rule get blasted? It couldn't have been much later. Didn't Ohio State go to the Rose Bowl in 1972 and then again in 1973?
 
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Dryden;916684; said:
My issue with picking Krenzel here is that he was the biggest beneficiary of a superior defense, arguably one the greatest (and entirely underrated) defensive lines to ever go through the college ranks. FWIW, Smith, Anderson, Peterson, and Scott were all first day draft picks, and have thus far combined for 72 NFL starts and 161 NFL games played. If the OSU defense gave the Krenzel lead offense a few extra possessions, either from TOs or 3-and-outs, OSU might add a FG or a TD, but when the OSU defense gave Troy extra possessions, they struck right back for demoralizing, game ending TDs.

When Krenzel lead the team, I usually wondered if they'd score 17 points and whether or not that'd be enough to win with that defense. When Troy took the field, I usually wondered if they'd cover the spread.

I don't want to besmirch Krenzel. He was a GREAT QB. But, in my book, its Troy and then everybody else. January 8 is inconsequential to the discussion to me, because Troy didn't play D, didn't design a defensive game plan that gave a four-year starter from a SEC program soft zone coverage, and Troy didn't play O-Line either.
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I completely agree. You can't be a Buckeye fan and not appreciate what Krenzel did. But when you talk about the greatest OSU QB, I think about who generated the most excitement when he had the ball in his hands. I got excited every time Troy trotted out on the field. It was like, how will Troy lead us to a score on this series? He was a great leader and unbelievably creative. If it weren't for that debacle in the desert, this one wouldn't even be up for discussion. The man beat scUM 3 straight times...that seals it for me.
 
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Zurp;916721; said:
Just out of curiosity, when did the "no repeat" rule get blasted? It couldn't have been much later. Didn't Ohio State go to the Rose Bowl in 1972 and then again in 1973?
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Repealed for the '73 season behind a big push from the tsun AD ironically enough. The very same year The Game ends up in a 10-10 tie and a vote of conference AD's sends OSU to the Rose Bowl over tsun. We drilled USC 42-21 but the Domers got the NC. Probably our best team ever.
 
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... and to finish the history lesson, the Pacific Coast Conference used to have a no-repeat rule too, which was repealed after UCLA went 9-0 in 1954, and couldn't go to the Rose Bowl and play Ohio State, since UCLA had been in the Rose Bowl the year before. OSU and UCLA split the title that year. It could be argued that that probably worked out better for OSU, because that was possibly UCLA's best team ever. They demolished pretty much every team on their schedule -- they put up a lot of 70-0 type scores that season.

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I don't think Art should be forgotten just b/c of his off the field issues post graduation.

IMO it has to be Smith and Art...they are best run/pass QB's by far - all others have significant weaknesses.

JG - great passer...maybe he could run, he just didn't

CG - great runner / leader...couldn't operate in today's offenses

BH - great passer...bad pocket presence (how many times did he sack himself?)...benefited from Outland, Heisman, and Blientikof winners...only one good season

RK - great runner / leader...injured too much (his backup played / started in '68 a significant amount)

CK - great game management...not particularly great at running or throwing...benefitted from one of the best defenses in ages...only being considered b/c his team won a NC...otherwise - he's the Buckeyes version of Baltimore's Super Bowl QB Trent Dilfer.
 
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Gotta take the Heisman winner, Troy Smith. I said I had to let Ted's exploits as a multi-threat player sink in, and I would say that about Troy too, but OSU's only ever had 1 QB win the Heisman, so.... no brainer.

I took Rex Kern as well. The guy was 2 games away from 3 titles and a perfect record. Woody trusted him with the offense like no other QB, and that's enough for me.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;921514; said:
Gotta take the Heisman winner, Troy Smith. I said I had to let Ted's exploits as a multi-threat player sink in, and I would say that about Troy too, but OSU's only ever had 1 QB win the Heisman, so.... no brainer.

I took Rex Kern as well. The guy was 2 games away from 3 titles and a perfect record. Woody trusted him with the offense like no other QB, and that's enough for me.
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Same picks for the same reasons. Am I you?
 
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