Who will be tOSU's head coach on July 1, 2012? (betting closed)

[jwinslow]

Gruden signed an extension with MNF. Lots of folks have speculated that he was a candidate for the tOSU job. I never said he was interested or tOSU was interested.....so those who had him on their list can take him off....mmkay pumpkin.....

is there a multi million dollar penalty for leaving MNF? if not, where is the basis for your argument?

and that buyout/penalty better be at least 4-6 million, because Gruden is certainly worth any fee smaller than that.

 

[RuGettinIt]

is there a multi million dollar penalty for leaving MNF? if not, where is the basis for your argument?

and that buyout/penalty better be at least 4-6 million, because Gruden is certainly worth any fee smaller than that.

I can't see Gruden signing a contract extension with MNF and leaving in a few months. Obviously MNF signed him to a new extension as a way to keep teams from coming after him. Will that stop them or him, not necessarily. Gruden, however seems to be a man of integrity and someone who is currently enjoying his work on MNF.

 

[dragurd]

I think he just loves to say Sazenbacher. Now if he was still on our team we'd have a chance... :p

Heck it's probably written into his contract that he gets to say Sazenbacher at least 10 times a year.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

is there a multi million dollar penalty for leaving MNF? if not, where is the basis for your argument?

and that buyout/penalty better be at least 4-6 million, because Gruden is certainly worth any fee smaller than that.

Agreed with Jwins. And it's not just because I have an inverted image of Jon Gruden as my avatar. :tinfoil:

The smartest thing Jon Gruden could do would be to secure a decent paying easy gig for the next five years and play with the house money. Something tells be that the penalty to break the contract isn't "death" and the NFL team or college team that goes after him will cover the buyout to the mothership.

Two can play the "I can come up with possibilities and present them as facts". Maybe ESPN execs called up Gruden, whose secretary informed the execs he was on the phone with Ohio State, and the execs wanted to figure out another way to stick it to the Buckeyes with the buyout.

FYI I wouldn't take the Gruden to OSU bet, but I would be happy.

 

[Mac]

Maybe he just wants to stick it to espin after this year like they keep doing to OSU.

And he's worth the buyout

 

[Joe6809]

I'm not sure I understand the Gruden infatuation. I know he's from Ohio, and he was a successful coach in the NFL, but is there anything else that gets people all giddy for him to coach here? He has next to no college coaching experience, save for some low level assistant positions. NFL coaching success rarely equals college coaching success, and vice versa. I guess that's why I don't get why people would argue Gruden over a proven top level college coach like Meyer.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

I guess that's why I don't get why people would argue Gruden over a proven top level college coach like Meyer.

I guess I don't get why people would argue a college coach who voluntarily quit his last top level job over one of the hardest working ex NFL coaches.

I think at this point, all we can do is argue. PS I'd take either.

 

[Bleed S & G]

Maybe he just wants to stick it to espin after this year like they keep doing to OSU.

And he's worth the buyout

Based on what? Based on his recruiting ties in Ohio? Or his pipeline to Flordia, Texas, and Cali? Or is it his National Championship rings?

Oh, wait..

Gruden would be a good hire - no doubt - even with longevity concerns, if you can get Urban you gotta hire him. Gruden's an NFL man.

 

[jlb1705]

I'm not sure I understand the Gruden infatuation. I know he's from Ohio, and he was a successful coach in the NFL, but is there anything else that gets people all giddy for him to coach here? He has next to no college coaching experience, save for some low level assistant positions. NFL coaching success rarely equals college coaching success, and vice versa. I guess that's why I don't get why people would argue Gruden over a proven top level college coach like Meyer.

Almost all of the guys you're probably thinking of were failures in the NFL before trying their hand at college coaching.

As far as I can tell, Bill Walsh is the only Super Bowl-winning head coach to step down to a college job afterwards at some point. He spent three years at Stanford, where he tied for the Pac-10 title, won a bowl game against Penn State, then had two losing seasons. All in all, that's pretty successful for Stanford.

That's the closest thing to a historical template for Jon Gruden that you'd ever be able to find, and it's not a very good one. While Bill Walsh is one of the all time greats and outclasses Gruden in pretty much every way, he was in the twilight of his career when he arrived at Stanford. Gruden on the other hand is still young and could conceivably have some of his best years ahead of him. Also, while Stanford it the top all-around athletic program in the country, they have never had the resources in football that a school like Ohio State has.

 

[scarletmike]

I'll admit it, I want Gruden for the hilarious press conferences and remarks that are sure to result.

 

[jwinslow]

I'll admit it, I want Gruden for the hilarious press conferences and remarks that are sure to result.

Hooley better be in the room.

 

[GeorgiaBuck2]

I'm confused by your sig. JWins...

 

[stowfan]

I'm confused by your sig. JWins...

Maybe it's for Gator's benefit in case he missed it?

 

[Zurp]

I propose that the team not have any head coach, and that the team be run by a few separate, but equal, branches of leaders.

First, the captains, would be voted on by the players. Three defensive, three offensive, and one special teams captain would be elected prior to the beginning of the season. The captains would be in charge of personnel decisions - who starts, who sits, who plays in specific packages, etc. They could appoint committees, if they choose, so they can delegate some of the responsibilities, but in the end, a vote by those seven captains is needed to approve any decisions on who the eleven players on the field are.

Second, "the bearded one", and "the vice-bearded one", make all playmaking decisions. "The bearded one" is simply the player with the best beard on the team. "The vice-bearded one" is the player with the best beard not on the same side of the ball as "the bearded one". For instance, if "the bearded one" is an offensive guard, "the vice-bearded one" must be on defense. (Special teams players must choose an allegiance to be counted toward.) Neither of the two "bearded ones" can be a captain. The "bearded ones" make all playmaking decisions. Pass, run, punt, field goal, blitz, etc. - all decided by these two guys. The one who is on the field trumps the one who is on the sidelines (hence the need for them to be on opposite sides of the ball). When they are deciding on special teams plays, and their opinions differ, "the bearded one" trumps "the vice-bearded one".

Because beards can come and go, these two players are chosen the morning of each game.

Finally, the recruiters. After the captains are chosen at the beginning of the season, they put everyone in a big room. The captains then line up the rest of the team in a geometrically-logical matrix (for instance, if there are 100 players, they line up 10 x 10; 99 players would line up 11 x 9; 101 players would line up 1 x 101; wait - that's stupid - just stand against one of the four walls of the room). Have one of the captains secretly write down a number, 1 through 5. Then have the rest of the team count off - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Whenever they get to the number the one dude secretly wrote down, that guy is a recruiter. All recruiters have to stay after practice and work out your own recruiting strategy. Good luck!

This plan would save the university money, since they aren't even allowed to pay the players. And if you get a bad set of players, it's no big deal because they'll all be gone in a few years - no messy lawsuits like you'd get from firing a head coach.

I bet this team would break records for delays of game, too, based on that first branch.

 

[jlb1705]

I propose that the team not have any head coach, and that the team be run by a few separate, but equal, branches of leaders.

First, the captains, would be voted on by the players. Three defensive, three offensive, and one special teams captain would be elected prior to the beginning of the season. The captains would be in charge of personnel decisions - who starts, who sits, who plays in specific packages, etc. They could appoint committees, if they choose, so they can delegate some of the responsibilities, but in the end, a vote by those seven captains is needed to approve any decisions on who the eleven players on the field are.

Second, "the bearded one", and "the vice-bearded one", make all playmaking decisions. "The bearded one" is simply the player with the best beard on the team. "The vice-bearded one" is the player with the best beard not on the same side of the ball as "the bearded one". For instance, if "the bearded one" is an offensive guard, "the vice-bearded one" must be on defense. (Special teams players must choose an allegiance to be counted toward.) Neither of the two "bearded ones" can be a captain. The "bearded ones" make all playmaking decisions. Pass, run, punt, field goal, blitz, etc. - all decided by these two guys. The one who is on the field trumps the one who is on the sidelines (hence the need for them to be on opposite sides of the ball). When they are deciding on special teams plays, and their opinions differ, "the bearded one" trumps "the vice-bearded one".

Because beards can come and go, these two players are chosen the morning of each game.

Finally, the recruiters. After the captains are chosen at the beginning of the season, they put everyone in a big room. The captains then line up the rest of the team in a geometrically-logical matrix (for instance, if there are 100 players, they line up 10 x 10; 99 players would line up 11 x 9; 101 players would line up 1 x 101; wait - that's stupid - just stand against one of the four walls of the room). Have one of the captains secretly write down a number, 1 through 5. Then have the rest of the team count off - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Whenever they get to the number the one dude secretly wrote down, that guy is a recruiter. All recruiters have to stay after practice and work out your own recruiting strategy. Good luck!

This plan would save the university money, since they aren't even allowed to pay the players. And if you get a bad set of players, it's no big deal because they'll all be gone in a few years - no messy lawsuits like you'd get from firing a head coach.

I bet this team would break records for delays of game, too, based on that first branch.

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