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Vacated. After FSU's wins were vacated, they had a 2-6 record in 2006 and an 0-6 record in 2007, which means that they had -10 net wins in my formula. In addition, I did not give them credit for bowl appearances in either year (normally they would have received 1 point for each minor bowl loss). Note that their Music City Bowl loss to Kentucky in 2007 still counts as a loss in the net win formula. In sum, the vacated wins cost Florida State 16 points (12 net wins, +3 Emerald Bowl win, +1 Music City Bowl loss).Gatorubet;1726712; said:
Similarly, Alabama lost 25 prestige points as a result of vacated games from 2005 to 2007.
On September 29, 2007, Florida State and Alabama played a game. Florida State "won" 21-14, but had to vacate the win; if Alabama had won, then they would have had to vacate the win as well. That's southern football for you....
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DallasHusker
Husker with a Buckeye wife!
LordJeffBuck, thanks very much for all the time you've put into this. I was the one who asked for "the last 50 years" stats, and wow, you sure went way beyond that! Very interesting reading for me, and I'm going to link this thread to a Husker board that I frequent as well.
Thanks again! :)
Thanks again! :)
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MightbeaBuck
with hat in hand
Looks like this will be the last decade Notre Dame will be listed in the top 15. Nebraska will probably move up, now that they don't have Kansas State to push them around anymore.LordJeffBuck;1726509; said:
When LJB updates this in ten years, unless Michigan gets their heads out of their asses, they may not be in the top 15 either. USC will drop for obvious reasons, and I can see Miami dropping quite a bit also.
Interesting that the distance between teams varies so much. Number 1 and 2 are practically tied, while the distance between number 7 and 8 is around 80 points.
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Gatorubet;1727879; said:
22.5
Here's the breakdown: +12 win; +5 Sugar Bowl win; +2.5 Draddy (Tim Tebow); +3 All Americans (Maurkice Pouncey, Brandon Spikes, Joe Haden)
Attached is the complete prestige chart for Florida.
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HuskerFromOhio
What an Upgrade!!!!!!!!
Could you do one of just the last 50 years? So I could see how far Nebraska is ahead of every other team.
Also this link should help you ALOT College Football Trivia everything there is legit so don't worry.
Also this link should help you ALOT College Football Trivia everything there is legit so don't worry.
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A head-to-head comparison of Ohio State and Oklahoma, with a recap followed by a complete analysis:
I am in the process of recalculating the prestige of other top programs, but I believe that Ohio State and Oklahoma will place 3rd and 4th respectively, behind Alabama and Notre Dame, and ahead of Southern Cal, Michigan, Nebraska, and Texas.
Ohio State's most prestigious player is obviously Archie Griffin, who has 74 points (2 Heisman, 2 Walter Camp, Maxwell, 2 unanimous All American).
Oklahoma's most prestigious player is quarterback Jason White, who has 47 points (Heisman, Maxwell, 2 Davey O'Brien, unanimous All American).
Ohio State's most prestigious year was 2002 (138 points), followed by 2014 (127.5 points), 1968 (127 points), and 1942 (113 points).
Oklahoma's most prestigious year was 1975 (146 points), followed by 2000 (143.5 points), 1985 (138 points), 1956 (133 points), and 1955 (127 points).
I've tweaked the formula a bit, giving more prestige to national championships and Heisman Trophies.
*A note on national championship points: A pre-poll undisputed national championship (not relevant for either of these two teams) is worth 50 points. A poll era undisputed national championship is worth 100 points. Split national championships are pro-rated according to a proprietary formula.
| Category | Ohio State | Oklahoma |
|---|---|---|
| National Championships | 518.5 | 603.0 |
| Conference Championships | 190.0 | 220.0 |
| Net Wins + Undefeated | 609.0 | 579.5 |
| Bowl Games | 140.0 | 158.0 |
| Player/Coach Awards | 432.5 | 327.5 |
| CFB Hall of Famers | 160.0 | 130.0 |
| All Americans | 140.0 | 117.0 |
| Total Prestige Points | 2190.0 | 2135.0 |
| Category | Points | Ohio State | Oklahoma |
|---|---|---|---|
| National Championships | 100* | 518.5 | 603.0 |
| Conference Championships | 5.0 | 190.0 | 220.0 |
| Perfect Seasons | 5.0 | 30.0 | 40.0 |
| Undefeated Seasons | 2.5 | 10.0 | 2.5 |
| Net Wins (W minus L) | 1.0 | 569.0 | 537.0 |
| Major Bowl Victories | 5.0 | 85.0 | 95.0 |
| Major Bowl Ties | 3.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Major Bowl Losses | 2.0 | 26.0 | 24.0 |
| Minor Bowl Victories | 3.0 | 18.0 | 30.0 |
| Minor Bowl Ties | 2.0 | 0.0 | 2.0 |
| Minor Bowl Losses | 1.0 | 11.0 | 7.0 |
| Heisman Trophy | 25.0 | 175.0 | 125.0 |
| Maxwell Award (best player) | 10.0 | 40.0 | 20.0 |
| Outland Trophy (best OL/DL) | 10.0 | 40.0 | 50.0 |
| Lombardi Awards (best OL/DL/LB) | 10.0 | 60.0 | 30.0 |
| AFCA Coach of Year | 10.0 | 40.0 | 20.0 |
| Walter Camp Award (best player) | 5.0 | 20.0 | 15.0 |
| Danny O'Brien Award (best QB) | 5.0 | 5.0 | 15.0 |
| Doak Walker Award (best RB) | 5.0 | 5.0 | 0.0 |
| Biletnikoff Awards (best WR) | 5.0 | 5.0 | 0.0 |
| Butkus Award (best LB) | 5.0 | 10.0 | 20.0 |
| Jim Thorpe Award (best DB) | 5.0 | 10.0 | 15.0 |
| Dave Rimington Trophy (best center) | 2.5 | 2.5 | 0.0 |
| John Mackey Award (best TE) | 2.5 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Bronco Nagurski Trophy (best defender) | 2.5 | 2.5 | 5.0 |
| Chuck Bednarik Award (best defender) | 2.5 | 0.0 | 2.5 |
| Lott IMPACT Trophy (best defender) | 2.5 | 2.5 | 0.0 |
| Lou Groza Award (best kicker) | 2.5 | 2.5 | 0.0 |
| Ray Guy Award (best punter) | 2.5 | 2.5 | 0.0 |
| Frank Broyles Award (best assistant) | 2.5 | 5.0 | 7.5 |
| Draddy Trophy (Acdemic Heisman) | 2.5 | 5.0 | 2.5 |
| CFB Hall of Famers | 5.0 | 160.0 | 130.0 |
| Unanimous All Americans | 2.0 | 60.0 | 58.0 |
| Consensus All Americans | 1.0 | 51.0 | 47.0 |
| Academic All Americans | 1.0 | 29.0 | 12.0 |
| Total Prestige Points | . | 2190.0 | 2135.0 |
Ohio State's most prestigious player is obviously Archie Griffin, who has 74 points (2 Heisman, 2 Walter Camp, Maxwell, 2 unanimous All American).
Oklahoma's most prestigious player is quarterback Jason White, who has 47 points (Heisman, Maxwell, 2 Davey O'Brien, unanimous All American).
Ohio State's most prestigious year was 2002 (138 points), followed by 2014 (127.5 points), 1968 (127 points), and 1942 (113 points).
Oklahoma's most prestigious year was 1975 (146 points), followed by 2000 (143.5 points), 1985 (138 points), 1956 (133 points), and 1955 (127 points).
I've tweaked the formula a bit, giving more prestige to national championships and Heisman Trophies.
*A note on national championship points: A pre-poll undisputed national championship (not relevant for either of these two teams) is worth 50 points. A poll era undisputed national championship is worth 100 points. Split national championships are pro-rated according to a proprietary formula.
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GoBucks1014
Heaven on earth
My takeaway from this thread....@Gatorubet is still donating???
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