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What kind of car do you drive?

Dub, it appears that dealers are charging upfront for the petrol savings that you will be getting in their invoice price. They'll tell you it's supply costs shortages, raw material costs, labor costs, or whatever to justify their upcharge. And we gladly pay it, to get 20+% more mpg. Same thing with the EV cars. They're paying a premium for their vehicle, so you'll have to drive lots of electric miles before you 'break-even'. Script, looked at RAV, and took me minutes to scrunch down to get my body in drivers seat (am 6'6"). Twas a good vehicle, but too small. I'll have a drag race with you versus my Subaru Outback.....the tortoise might beat both of us.
 
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Bought a RAV4 earlier this year.

Police escorts, everybody passports
This the life that everybody asks for
This the fast life, we are on a crash course
What you think I sportscast for, to push a fuckin' Rav 4?

Script, looked at RAV, and took me minutes to scrunch down to get my body in drivers seat (am 6'6"). Twas a good vehicle, but too small..

I have a penis the size of which would look more proportionate on a person 6'6".
 
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Dub, it appears that dealers are charging upfront for the petrol savings that you will be getting in their invoice price. They'll tell you it's supply costs shortages, raw material costs, labor costs, or whatever to justify their upcharge. And we gladly pay it, to get 20+% more mpg. Same thing with the EV cars. They're paying a premium for their vehicle, so you'll have to drive lots of electric miles before you 'break-even'. Script, looked at RAV, and took me minutes to scrunch down to get my body in drivers seat (am 6'6"). Twas a good vehicle, but too small. I'll have a drag race with you versus my Subaru Outback.....the tortoise might beat both of us.
I have an old beater ('96 Ford Ranger) that gets gold gas mileage still but I use it as a "local" vehicle. When i take trips i rent, it comes out cheaper in the long run. I'm an old school mechanic, i can keep these beaters running forever.
 
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I have always driven underpowered crap cars because I'm cheap. Even when I could've afforded better, I drove crap. Yesterday, my only car was a 2011 GMC Terrain with a four cylinder engine. It's crap.

Then I took a job where they let you charge your electric car for free. That made the decision to go electric easy. When I examined electric cars, the Tesla Performance Model 3 was an easy choice.

After a lifetime of driving underpowered crap, I just got this 5-star athlete home for the first time. To get an ICE-powered car that performed as well (stock), I would've had to pay at least twice as much, probably a lot more.

On the way home, I came up to one of those intersections where it's 2-lanes at the light, but 50 yards after the intersection it goes down to one lane. Some sports car pulled up beside me, thinking to get ahead of me before we got to the winding mountain road that was my roller coaster on the way home. I don't know what kind of sports car it was, because it didn't matter. This beautiful scarlet beast took off so fast my wife thought we got rear-ended. :lol:

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I have always driven underpowered crap cars because I'm cheap. Even when I could've afforded better, I drove crap. Yesterday, my only car was a 2011 GMC Terrain with a four cylinder engine. It's crap.

Then I took a job where they let you charge your electric car for free. That made the decision to go electric easy. When I examined electric cars, the Tesla Performance Model 3 was an easy choice.

After a lifetime of driving underpowered crap, I just got this 5-star athlete home for the first time. To get an ICE-powered car that performed as well (stock), I would've had to pay at least twice as much, probably a lot more.

On the way home, I came up to one of those intersections where it's 2-lanes at the light, but 50 yards after the intersection it goes down to one lane. Some sports car pulled up beside me, thinking to get ahead of me before we got to the winding mountain road that was my roller coaster on the way home. I don't know what kind of sports car it was, because it didn't matter. This beautiful scarlet beast took off so fast my wife thought we got rear-ended. :lol:

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Almost nothing prepares folks for the “instant on” torque and power of an electric esp a tesla. Its funny as hell watching people fly back into their seats when you really “punch it”
 
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Dub, it appears that dealers are charging upfront for the petrol savings that you will be getting in their invoice price. They'll tell you it's supply costs shortages, raw material costs, labor costs, or whatever to justify their upcharge. And we gladly pay it, to get 20+% more mpg. Same thing with the EV cars. They're paying a premium for their vehicle, so you'll have to drive lots of electric miles before you 'break-even'. Script, looked at RAV, and took me minutes to scrunch down to get my body in drivers seat (am 6'6"). Twas a good vehicle, but too small. I'll have a drag race with you versus my Subaru Outback.....the tortoise might beat both of us.

Engine, Top Speed, 0-60 mph & Performance
The 2022 RAV4 is powered by 2.5-litre four-cylinder engine produces 203 HP and mated to 8-speed automatic transmission which is slightly clumsy in downshifting while overtaking on highways. It comes standard front-wheel drivetrain while all-wheel drivetrain is also available. RAV4 feels stable on highway while cruising but on corners it won’t give confidence with its unexciting handling. It will hit 0 to 60 MPH in 8.0-seconds which is quite quicker than previous model and have a top speed of 114 mph.
https://21motoring.com/toyota-rav4-2022-price-features-mileage-engine-top-speed-0-60-mph/#:~:text=Engine, Top Speed, 0-60 mph & Performance&text=It will hit 0 to,top speed of 114 mph.

Engine, Top Speed, 0-60 mph & Performance
The Subaru Outback’s base engine is powered by 2.5-litre non-turbo flat four-cylinder engine produces 182 HP and 176 pound-feet of peak torque. This engine is little bit noisy and lazy and that’s why we recommend to opt a 2.4-litre turbocharged flat four-cylinder engine making out 260 HP and 277 pound-feet of peak torque. Both are mated to the jerky 8-speed continuous variable transmission (CVT) and all-wheel drivetrain is a standard. It has 3500 pounds of towing capacity with all four-wheel independent suspension with front and rear stabilizer bar. The regular model gets the 8.7-inch of ground clearance while adventure seekers should must opt a Wilderness variant which has 9.5-inch of ground clearance. The non-turbo variant does 0 to 60 MPH in 8.7 seconds with top speed of 130 MPH.
https://21motoring.com/subaru-outback-2022-price-features-engine-mileage-top-speed-0-60-mph/

Well, according to the above articles I should be able to do 60 mph in 8.0 seconds, the comparable Subaru Outback does the 60 mph in 8.6 seconds. Regardless, I probably won't be seeing you at "dead man's curve".....:lol:

I have always driven underpowered crap cars because I'm cheap. Even when I could've afforded better, I drove crap. Yesterday, my only car was a 2011 GMC Terrain with a four cylinder engine. It's crap.

Then I took a job where they let you charge your electric car for free. That made the decision to go electric easy. When I examined electric cars, the Tesla Performance Model 3 was an easy choice.

After a lifetime of driving underpowered crap, I just got this 5-star athlete home for the first time. To get an ICE-powered car that performed as well (stock), I would've had to pay at least twice as much, probably a lot more.

On the way home, I came up to one of those intersections where it's 2-lanes at the light, but 50 yards after the intersection it goes down to one lane. Some sports car pulled up beside me, thinking to get ahead of me before we got to the winding mountain road that was my roller coaster on the way home. I don't know what kind of sports car it was, because it didn't matter. This beautiful scarlet beast took off so fast my wife thought we got rear-ended. :lol:

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The Model 3 Performance rockets to 60 mph in just 3.5 seconds...
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https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3

You can drag race calibuck......:lol:

I'm too cheap to buy an electric car and the cost to replace an electric car's battery is outrageous too. I'm driving less than 3K a year so I'll just stick with a $30K "reliable" gas powered car.
 
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https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-3

You can drag race calibuck......:lol:

I'm too cheap to buy an electric car and the cost to replace an electric car's battery is outrageous too. I'm driving less than 3K a year so I'll just stick with a $30K "reliable" gas powered car.

was never a big fan of car&driver. Tesla’s published number for the model 3 performance is 3.1 seconds. There’s an app you can get that allows you to track your own performance. Best I’ve done so far is 3.18, and that was under nothing like ideal conditions. I’d never suggest that a company’s own specs should be taken with anything les than 10 grains of salt, but car&driver has been pulling numbers out of their ass for decades.

As for the cost of the battery: As I work at a place where the company lets people charge up for free, there are a lot of people who drive electric. Of those I’ve met, the oldest Tesla is a 2014 model which is now almost 9 years old. It’s battery, according to the driver, has 80% of the capacity he started with. And that’s 8-9 year old technology; Tesla batteries have improved since then. Additionally, I keep my cars a long time… longer than most people. I keep them about 10 years, rarely longer. When this battery has run its course, I’ll be looking for a new car, not to replace it. When you consider all of the maintenance that I won’t have to do in that 10 years (probably longer), I’m still coming out ahead. And when you further consider that I’m not paying California gas prices, but instead am getting my energy for free… yeah… I’m still cheap. I’m just a cheap bastard who always wanted a nice car, and now has one whose total cost of ownership justifies the expense
 
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Well Script, guess you can blow my doors off.....can't wait - few years down the road - when these Tesla drivers have to drop $15k for new battery packs. Wife's Highlander Hybrid will cost $15,000 when batteries need replacing - ouch. Not certain trade-in will be high unless dealer replaces. Daddy BB, I'm paying Cali gas prices, although some of the cheapo gas have dropped below $5. Agree with you on keeping your car, have had 350,000 (volvo), 325,000 (lexus), and 12 years (last lexus). The Subaru is underpowered, but it keeps me under (or close to) speed limit. Hopefully saves on speeding tickets. Biggest attraction to me is that I can enter and exit automobile without scrunching. Also have a higher seat (although still can't see over or through these cowboy cadillacs).
 
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I had my truck in the shop for a week because they had to get a part from Timbuktu and I was stuck with Uber so I broke down and got a car from my mechan ic friend. It's a 2013 Nissan Sentra and the reviews are bad but he put in a new transmission and for 5K is was worth it to have a third vehicle. I hate buying used cars off of the street because I got burned when I was young but I'm too cheap to pay 30K for something that I'm only going to use occasionally. Riding Uber was interesting though, I met some cool people and also some complete psychos.

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Dub, if she enjoys it, it's paid for, and the repair bills are low - keep on truckin'. Just turned 6k on my one year old Outback, and car's still smarter than me. Not entirely certain like the 'auto-brake' application, jolted me, as got close to a person turning right, halfway in lane. Oh well, need to go get oil change at dealer in order to satisfy warranty, so will have them delete that feature, and the one that turns off engine at stoplights, etc. All use car for is going to golf course, errands around town and occasional trip to Fresno airport. Should outlast me....
 
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Dub, if she enjoys it, it's paid for, and the repair bills are low - keep on truckin'. Just turned 6k on my one year old Outback, and car's still smarter than me. Not entirely certain like the 'auto-brake' application, jolted me, as got close to a person turning right, halfway in lane. Oh well, need to go get oil change at dealer in order to satisfy warranty, so will have them delete that feature, and the one that turns off engine at stoplights, etc. All use car for is going to golf course, errands around town and occasional trip to Fresno airport. Should outlast me....
My wife hates to drive and only goes from work and back home. VERY occasion ally she'll drive to a store but usually she asks me to pick up whatever it is she wants. Amazon and instacart has been a God send for her. I don't think the car even has 50 thousand miles on it.
 
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Makes for lower (<5k miles/yr) insurance rates...my wife is opposite, loves to drive, but doesn't complain when I make her a "Passenger Princess" on longer trips. Shared driving with her to AZ and back, and she was happy. Daughter as well, as I had her sit shotgun, with me in back, and they chattered on all day. Besides, I trust my wife's driving, but just not the other driver.
 
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