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Wauseon plant to open Monday for 110-mpg car engines

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BrutuStrength;1481421; said:
110-MPG Wonder Engine Quits the X Prize


Scott, what are your thoughts regarding his claims concerning reduced heat and elimination of traditional engine parts (catalytic converter)? How significant can a more efficient reduction of heat actually be for improving mileage?
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not scott and certainly don't have his expertise. but heat being the enemy isn't exactly a new revelation. heat reduces hp and thereby fuel efficiency. but their is a glass ceiling on how efficient you can make an engine just by keeping it cool. most cars (especially sports cars) have aftermarket parts that can help keep your engine cooler. in fact, the best thing you can do for fuel efficiency is get your car dyno'd and tuned to the 200-100 rpm level. all cars leave the factory floor running rich to keep you from doing damage to the engine when running wot. optimizing your fuel mixture for a factory car will almost always increase your fuel mileage.

removing the catalytic converter would certainly increase your fuel mileage. anything that restricts your exhaust is going to decrease hp thereby fuel efficiency. though if he isn't using a catalytic converter i am curious how he plans to meet EPA regulations... he states he has "increased efficiency" to the point of no longer needing one. that makes me think he is doing something super nifty when igniting the fuel. i have no idea what that would be. maybe scott has some thoughts.

but if you want to know how much more efficient your car would be without cats go buy these:

QTP ? Electric Exhaust Cutouts

put em on your car, get it tuned and tell us how it goes. i suspect your going to fall "slightly" short of 100mpg...
 
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scott91575;1481163; said:
Auto companies are failing left and right (much of it caused by rising oil prices), while oil companies flourish.
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see bold.

edit: deciding to go with the ignore choice instead of avoiding this thread. Conspiracy theorists are the biggest waste of space on the planet and I will not waste even a minute reading anymore crazy ideas.
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Maybe it's because the big 3 execs are fucking clueless...in my mind they're little different than the bank and finance CEOs who ran thri companies into the ground while making sure they got their fair share. No fucking innovation, no progress unless the government comes up and puts their foot up big 3's ass. At the risk of agreeing with Taos, the Japanese have been coming up with fuel-effecient engines and top quality, innovative cars for decades. What the fuck has Detroit done. Seriously.

Sorry, but I don't give a shit if you work in the auto industry or not...I really don't. That would be like me saying that Microsoft's products are not full of bugs and are totally secure and using my current status of being an IT systems administrator to back my statement.
 
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BrutuStrength;1481421; said:
110-MPG Wonder Engine Quits the X Prize


Scott, what are your thoughts regarding his claims concerning reduced heat and elimination of traditional engine parts (catalytic converter)? How significant can a more efficient reduction of heat actually be for improving mileage?
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Reducing temperatures (allowing for higher compression) and then cat removal (reduction in back pressure) helps performance. He is still screwed on emmissions. This guys claims get better and better every day. In the next article I am sure he will claim the engine gives you head while driving.

Oh, and I guess he decided he didn't want $5 million. Probably because he already knows he can't win and already found a sucker for his claims.

edit: oh, another beauty of a claim....they don't even have a prototype yet and he want to be selling cars a year from now. So on top of everything else he is shrinking the development time of a vehicle. If they try to sell cars a year from now, that car will look like the cars built at the end of Gung Ho.
 
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martinss01;1481579; said:
not scott and certainly don't have his expertise. but heat being the enemy isn't exactly a new revelation. heat reduces hp and thereby fuel efficiency... i suspect your going to fall "slightly" short of 100mpg...
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scott91575;1481585; said:
Reducing temperatures (allowing for higher compression) and then cat removal (reduction in back pressure) helps performance.
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Thanks for the insight fellas.
scott91575;1481585; said:
He is still screwed on emmissions.
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Well, he does claim to have lowered emissions.
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All he?ll say is the engine, which he?s spent a decade developing, decreases heat to increase efficiency to a point where there is no need to use a catalytic converter. He claims to have run the engine on an EPA dynamometer and recorded rock-bottom emissions ratings that are less than half those of current cars.
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scott91575;1481585; said:
In the next article I am sure he will claim the engine gives you head while driving.
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And I will buy at least 2 of them!
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1481582; said:
Maybe it's because the big 3 execs are [censored]ing clueless...in my mind they're little different than the bank and finance CEOs who ran thri companies into the ground while making sure they got their fair share. No [censored]ing innovation, no progress unless the government comes up and puts their foot up big 3's ass. At the risk of agreeing with Taos, the Japanese have been coming up with fuel-effecient engines and top quality, innovative cars for decades. What the [censored] has Detroit done. Seriously.

Sorry, but I don't give a [censored] if you work in the auto industry or not...I really don't. That would be like me saying that Microsoft's products are not full of bugs and are totally secure and using my current status of being an IT systems administrator to back my statement.
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actually a lot of the "innovation" has come from within the us. and a significant portion is actually from "detroit" take a look at the companies in detroit and youll see the "foreign" automakers. the two fleet cafe standards and other protecitonist measures bouyed the det 3, this all flipped when "foregin" makers started manu cars in the us to meet the better two fleet standards.

also the banks, well a lot of their stuff was a result of "innovation" granted im with you, failures need to fail. basic principal of economics that weve forgotten or wed all be riding around in buggies and using canal boats pulled bya mule...

BrutuStrength;1481608; said:
Thanks for the insight fellas.

Well, he does claim to have lowered emissions.



And I will buy at least 2 of them!
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but he may have lowered emissions. that doesnt mean he has met all of the standards. they test for more than one compound...
 
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scott91575;1481613; said:
I saw what he claims. I think my thoughts on his claims are pretty clear.
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jimotis4heisman;1481619; said:
...but he may have lowered emissions. that doesnt mean he has met all of the standards. they test for more than one compound...
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With the claims this guy's been making, I am very interested as to how this thing plays out. If the guy proves to have a legit product, it will be a tremendous invention. If the product is not completely genuine, like some sort of hybrid engine, it will be interesting to see how he tries to explain it. And if the whole thing proves to be a fraud, then he will be thoroughly disgraced.

And if it's the latter, I can't help but wonder why he would set himself up knowing that it was coming. A couple of years of bogus hype wouldn't be worth the impending disgrace to me. It could very well end up similar to the Korean guy that made all of the bogus cloning claims.
 
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I reject the idea that there is any sort of "glass ceiling" on automobile engine technology. Many were saying the same thing about computer chips. This is the country that first split the atom. That put a man on the moon in the 60s. Get 'er done!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLu0Ak9Blog&feature=related"]YouTube - Apollo 11 Moon Landing[/ame]
 
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Taosman;1481833; said:
I reject the idea that there is any sort of "glass ceiling" on automobile engine technology. Many were saying the same thing about computer chips. This is the country that first split the atom. That put a man on the moon in the 60s. Get 'er done!
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Actually, chip makers began to see an approaching ceiling for the speed of a microprocessor. Hence the reason for going to multiple threaded processors.
 
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