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Urban F. Meyer (Former OSU, CFB and NFL coach)

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cincibuck said:
Universities are supposed to be ethical institutions, the foundation for the development of professionals who go about their daily lives in an ethical manner as the leaders of the nation. Ergo, the football programs they endorse to use their name and reputation should utilize "shut the fuck up" as a legal policy?

I expect the Yankees and Cowboys to lie and cheat. Their ethos is solely based on making money. I expect more from the teachers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, artists, and businessmen who graduate from Ohio State.
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"Supposed to be."
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
C'mon, man. What donors are going to go to the mattresses over Zach Fucking Smith? Earl was no heavyweight with the kind of donors who could exert pressure to keep a toxic moron like ZS employed. Who in the university hierarchy from GS to Drake to the Board gave two fucking shits about Zach Fucking Smith? The ONLY person who had an emotionally vested interest in keeping ZFS around was Urban Meyer. He kept him around at Florida. He brought him to Ohio State. He kept him around at Ohio State And he only and finally decided to distance himself from Zach after Earl was in the ground.
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Apparently enough people to keep it under wrap until the moment he died... that's not a coincidence.
 
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kujirakira said:
Apparently enough people to keep it under wrap until the moment he died... that's not a coincidence.
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Usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. Urban had a personal reason to protect ZS. Nobody else at the university gave a fuck about him. There was no grand conspiracy to protect ZS, and then pin the blame for that on Urban, by the university's higher powers.

That's as wishful thinking as those who attempted to exonerate Tressel by arguing he was part of some super secret hush-hush FBI operation to take down drug dealers, and that was why he chose not to report what he knew to his superiors.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Usually, the simplest answer is the correct one. Urban had a personal reason to protect ZS. Nobody else at the university gave a fuck about him. There was no grand conspiracy to protect ZS, and then pin the blame for that on Urban, by the university's higher powers.

That's as wishful thinking as those who attempted to exonerate Tressel by arguing he was part of some super secret hush-hush FBI operation to take down drug dealers, and that was why he chose not to report what he knew to his superiors.
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I never said there's a grand conspiracy. The fact is that he's the grandson of a beloved legacy at Ohio State not just the Urban Meyer connection. People apparently knew quite a bit about it from high end happy hours... but few said anything until Earle left us.
He wasn't protected for the sole reason of Urban. That's it... and short of tilting at windmills, you haven't offered anything to counter those facts.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
I mean, what kind of idiot would actually have paid to see that donkey show?
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TV. One of the networks wanted that game. They could hype the hell out of the Urban’s old school - Urban’s new school and hope for a ratings bananza out of a game between two 6 and 6 teams. My guess is that the payout was significant and who knew what the NCAA penalty would be?
 
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kujirakira said:
I never said there's a grand conspiracy. The fact is that he's the grandson of a beloved legacy at Ohio State not just the Urban Meyer connection. People apparently knew quite a bit about it from high end happy hours... but few said anything until Earle left us.
He wasn't protected for the sole reason of Urban. That's it... and short of tilting at windmills, you haven't offered anything to counter those facts.
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If Earl was a “beloved legacy” @ Ohio State, I missed it.
 
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kujirakira said:
I never said there's a grand conspiracy. The fact is that he's the grandson of a beloved legacy at Ohio State not just the Urban Meyer connection. People apparently knew quite a bit about it from high end happy hours... but few said anything until Earle left us.
He wasn't protected for the sole reason of Urban. That's it... and short of tilting at windmills, you haven't offered anything to counter those facts.
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What facts are you offering? Whispers of things being said at "high end cocktail hours." Nonsense. Until you can actually show me how and why anyone high up in the university had any reason or desire to keep ZS on that staff, it's all on Urban. Earl Bruce did not have that kind of clout in the upper reaches of the university. He was a beloved old, football coach. That's it. Do you think Wexner, Ong, Schottenstein or others like that were pulling strings to keep ZS employed? And did they make Urban keep ZS around at UF? Did they make him bring ZS up to Columbus? That's tilting at windmills.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
What facts are you offering? Whispers of things being said at "high end cocktail hours." Nonsense. Until you can actually show me how and why anyone high up in the university had any reason or desire to keep ZS on that staff, it's all on Urban. Earl Bruce did not have that kind of clout in the upper reaches of the university. He was a beloved old, football coach. That's it. Do you think Wexner, Ong, Schottenstein or others like that were pulling strings to keep ZS employed? And did they make Urban keep ZS around at UF? Did they make him bring ZS up to Columbus? That's tilting at windmills.
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The facts of Earle's career.
You're saying Earle's name has no currency at all around Ohio State University; only in the Meyer family. OK. I don't buy it, but it is consistent with your agenda to always pretend like Tressel / Urban / whoever are rogue actors outside the rest of the University' paradigm.
I wonder what you would have had to say after Woody's exit.
Nobody had to pull strings to keep ZS employed... they just had to do nothing. And there were reasons for both Meyer and the University as a whole to ... do nothing...
 
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