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UCF Golden Knights (2017 National Champs....sort of)

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
You're trading the village idiot for the court jester here.
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I get that, but I want consistency. More to the point, I want the championship decided by someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the success of one (or in this case two) conferences at the expense of all the rest.

Either that or the B1G, Big-12 and Pac-12 jump out of it entirely or something.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
CFB is transitioning from being a sport that crowned a champion based almost solely on regular season performance to a sport trying to crown a champion based on an end of season tournament.

Team 1 wins the regular season basketball crown, team 2 wins the conference tournament.

Who's the real champ?
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Yeap, and this is what I've loved about College Football and grow annoyed with US pro sports.
Basketball, Football, Baseball... so many teams get in, the regular season is little more than a preliminary round / extended preseason.
There is barely any point watching those sports until postseason starts.
I prefer the way the other football leagues do it... one competition for a season; separate competition for a tournament. If you can win them all, it's a very special year - but even they recognize the regular season demonstrates the best team overall.

Some playoff is necessary for CFB b/c even if we prune the Mid Majors out, we still have 60some schools competing in just 12 games each. But no way I'll ever support these "wildcard" entries.
 
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Bo Scarbrough takes jab at UCF with ‘real championship rings’ tweet

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For the fifth time since Nick Saban took over, Alabama football players have added some serious bling to their personal collections.

At the football team’s annual Steak & Beans dinner Monday night at the Mal Moore Athletics Facility, both the student-athletes and coaches were presented with their 2017 national championship rings. The thrilling overtime win over Georgia in the College Football Playoff title game was the program’s fifth since Saban came to the Crimson Tide in 2007.
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Of course, numerous Crimson Tide football players took to social media to show off and celebrate their latest title hardware. The best use of Twitter, though, belonged to running back Bo Scarbrough, who took a not-so-thinly-veiled jab at UCF and the Knights’ unveiling “the only 2017 undefeated national championship ring this past weekend.



Entire article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...alabama-players-get-their-latest-title-bling/
 
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There's another player who isn't about this "UCF National championship" crap...

I think the folks at UCF know him pretty well...

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...totally-school-national-championship-campaign

Former UCF head coach Scott Frost, who led the team to a 13-0 record including a victory over Auburn in the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl, isn't completely behind the school's self-promoting themselves as national champions.

"I completely get behind their argument," Frost told USA Today Sports. "I do think it was almost criminal how low they kept UCF in the rankings, and I think it was intentional. But at the end of the day, the playoff system is that the national champion is the team that wins the playoff."
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Maybe because the guy knows what it takes to actually (at least, as a player) WIN a championship at a major school...besides...

Their trophy case will look really funny with a bowl of peaches...reminds me of the old EA NCAA Football where you had a trophy case...

BTW, UCF:

See this guy?

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I love how he's running away from your silliness. Ran all the way from Orlando, Florida, to Lincoln, Nebraska.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
...you are never going to have a "true" champion in CFB...
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That is true.
Mike80 said:
...I want the NCAA to come in and actually take control over the FBS division and put into place their standard system for determining a National Champion for football.
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What is the NCAA's standard system for determining a National Champion for football? Or their standard system for determining a National Champion for sports, generally?
 
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zincfinger said:
What is the NCAA's standard system for determining a National Champion for football? Or their standard system for determining a National Champion for sports, generally?
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FCS has the conference champions plus some at-large bids. At-large bids are selected by a panel of an AD from each participating conference (the Ivy League, SWAC and MEAC don't allow automatic bids but can make at-large bids) and they go from there. The NCAA sanctions their playoff champion while the FBS/BCS/CFP champion has never been officially sanctioned by the NCAA.
 
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Mike80 said:
FCS has the conference champions plus some at-large bids. At-large bids are selected by a panel of an AD from each participating conference (the Ivy League, SWAC and MEAC don't allow automatic bids but can make at-large bids) and they go from there. The NCAA sanctions their playoff champion while the FBS/BCS/CFP champion has never been officially sanctioned by the NCAA.
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well no shit.....the NCAA isn't going to sanction Alabama.....they can't even get UNC.
 
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Mike80 said:
FCS has the conference champions plus some at-large bids. At-large bids are selected by a panel of an AD from each participating conference (the Ivy League, SWAC and MEAC don't allow automatic bids but can make at-large bids) and they go from there. The NCAA sanctions their playoff champion while the FBS/BCS/CFP champion has never been officially sanctioned by the NCAA.
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Gotcha; I didn't realize that when referring to the NCAA's standard formula for determining a football national champion, you meant the FCS formula. Does that mean you want a similar number of participants as are currently in the FCS tournament; currently 24 teams I think? Does it mean you want auto-bids for mid-major conference champions?
 
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zincfinger said:
Gotcha; I didn't realize that when referring to the NCAA's standard formula for determining a football national champion, you meant the FCS formula. Does that mean you want a similar number of participants as are currently in the FCS tournament; currently 24 teams I think? Does it mean you want auto-bids for mid-major conference champions?
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Yes to automatic bids but no to the number of participants. FCS has 10 auto bids and 14 at-large bids or something like that. FBS has 11 conferences total.

I would think you could do 11 auto bids plus 1 at-large and go with 12. I also think none of this will ever happen because money talks and bullshit walks, but in an ideal world, there would be a true playoff among all of the conference champs....
 
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Mike80 said:
Yes to automatic bids but no to the number of participants. FCS has 10 auto bids and 14 at-large bids or something like that. FBS has 11 conferences total.

I would think you could do 11 auto bids plus 1 at-large and go with 12. I also think none of this will ever happen because money talks and bullshit walks, but in an ideal world, there would be a true playoff among all of the conference champs....
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
SEC champ v. Sun Belt champ is a snoozer in September, and it will be in the playoffs. No thanks.
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Yep, bad mistake on multiple levels to treat the Sunbelt and MAC as being effectively equivalent to the BigTen and SEC.
 
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zincfinger said:
Yep, bad mistake on multiple levels to treat the Sunbelt and MAC as being effectively equivalent to the BigTen and SEC.
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Disagree. The game still has to be played. Literally anything can happen too, just like in the NCAA basketball tournament.

Unless you're ok with the current system, which has a huge built-in conflict of interest at the center of it.
 
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Mike80 said:
Disagree. The game still has to be played. Literally anything can happen too, just like in the NCAA basketball tournament.

Unless you're ok with the current system, which has a huge built-in conflict of interest at the center of it.
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Agreed. UCF just won all of the games they possibly could have. What else could they have done to get into the playoffs? I'm not saying that we should call them national champions, but what else could they have done to get into the playoffs?

I'd rather see undefeated teams like UCF last year get in, instead of teams that didn't win their conference. Sure, UCF probably doesn't win the whole thing, the way Alabama did. What are we afraid of? A blow-out? In 8 playoff games so far, 4 have been won by 20+ points, and 3 of those by 30+ points.

And who knows? UCF might just surprise someone.
 
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